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mercuryblues

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26. This question

Sun Mar 22, 2015, 01:08 PM

Mar 2015

has and will drive the birthers crazy. When Rmoney ran they questioned his eligibility. They had been told for years that because Obama's father was not a US citizen, he was not eligible for the presidency. They fell for it hook line and sinker. Then it became known that Rmoney's father was born in Mexico.

They wondered how Rmoney could run and not Obama. The situations were the same. Mothers both born in the US. They were born in the US, but fathers were born outside the US. They explained it away by saying one of Rmoney's grandparents were born in the US before moving to Mexico. Therefor Rmoney's father was considered a citizen at birth. I did notice there was not a lot of birtherism in that election cycle. ssshhh. maybe they won't notice the hypocrisy. Heads stopped exploding.

Even McCain had a bit of a birtherism problem,. He, as we all know was born in Panama to 2 US citizen parents. The claim is that he was born on a military base automatically made him a citizen. Even the claim he Panama was a territory of the US at that time. Neither is 100% true. Citizens of a territory are not automatically US citizens and oversees bases are not considered to be US territory therefor being born on a military base oversees does not automatically confer citizenship. Now add to this that there is not any paperwork to be found registering him as a child born oversees. (When my sister-n-law gave birth at a oversees military base, she had to file a form called something like "A child born abroad" Even then my niece had duel citizenship until she was 18.) There is no record of McCain having one.

It got so bad that the senate passed a non-binding resolution that, yes, he is a US citizen.

https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/110/sres511/text

Now that being said, does this mean I believe Cruz has a birther problem. Not really. Though I will have fun shoving it into teabageer faces. At least Obama was actually born in the USofA. Not that socialist country, Canada.

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Is Ted Cruz even eligible to be President? [View all] Paula Sims Mar 2015 OP

Hey, hey Paula WhiteTara Mar 2015 #1

...I want to marry yoooo pinboy3niner Mar 2015 #49

Well, that should confuse the birthers, The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2015 #2

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Canada our KingCharlemagne Mar 2015 #3

No�it's OK... PCIntern Mar 2015 #5

I don't think the Canadians see it that way, The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2015 #6

OT but during the protests against the Iraq War in 2003, I saw a great hand-written KingCharlemagne Mar 2015 #8

Don't you have a cilla4progress Mar 2015 #11

We do have a great governor, for now. The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2015 #29

No, it is America's largest national park. AngryAmish Mar 2015 #40

Yes, he's a natural born citizen SickOfTheOnePct Mar 2015 #4

While back, ran across article full of US legaleze discussing Cruz. It's conclusion was that since Panich52 Mar 2015 #36

Yes, according to the US State Department website Lurks Often Mar 2015 #7

Thanks for providing facts, BlueMTexpat Mar 2015 #10

This message was self-deleted by its author android fan Mar 2015 #22

But I don't know that cilla4progress Mar 2015 #12

as natural born citizen has never been defined as anything other than that, yes cali Mar 2015 #17

I demand that he produce the rogerashton Mar 2015 #34

Nobody really knows Aletheia Mar 2015 #9

welcome to du!!!!! The way i was taught it was there was concern that a foreign born (british) dembotoz Mar 2015 #13

Welcome to DU, Aletheia. brer cat Mar 2015 #14

yes, he's eligible. this birther crap is really irritating. cali Mar 2015 #15

"this birth crap is really irritating" SickOfTheOnePct Mar 2015 #18

Indeed it is gratuitous Mar 2015 #41

+1 n/t tammywammy Mar 2015 #57

We should demand to see all his papers. rickford66 Mar 2015 #16

You forgot two more.. android fan Mar 2015 #23

perhaps we could get orly taitz to look into it?? Saphire Mar 2015 #19

Wow, haven't heard from her in awhile. Has the California Bar disbarred her yet? catbyte Mar 2015 #32

Alberta, Canada borders the U.S. Zambero Mar 2015 #20

This message was self-deleted by its author android fan Mar 2015 #21

Seriously? SickOfTheOnePct Mar 2015 #24

I'm calling bullshit. cali Mar 2015 #25

This question mercuryblues Mar 2015 #26

I remember reading that Romney's grandfather gave up US citizenship. rickford66 Mar 2015 #38

you are mercuryblues Mar 2015 #43

Did he officially renounce his Canadian citizenship? Paulie Mar 2015 #27

That's irrelevant jberryhill Mar 2015 #30

It's relavent from a optics Paulie Mar 2015 #37

I think Ted Cruz supporters believe him sufficiently "patriotic" jberryhill Mar 2015 #44

Yes. Last year. underpants Mar 2015 #46

Yes jberryhill Mar 2015 #28

Yes. Delete this post it's foolish. Agschmid Mar 2015 #31

I want to see his certificate of proof of citizenship. I was born in a foreign Cleita Mar 2015 #33

Originally, requirements for obtaining and retention of BlueMTexpat Mar 2015 #45

This is a person trying to be President of the USA. Cleita Mar 2015 #48

Frankly, I think that the whole issue BlueMTexpat Mar 2015 #50

It has a pest factor, like the birther movement. Keeps him on the defense or are you Cleita Mar 2015 #54

True - it has a pest factor! BlueMTexpat Mar 2015 #60

Speaking of who, Stephanie Miller wants to ask her about this Cleita Mar 2015 #61

Of course, President Obama wasn't "required" to publish his birth certificate onenote Mar 2015 #53

So why not make him shut up our dickwads and I'm one of them. eom Cleita Mar 2015 #56

Yes by birth, but NO by smarts, looks, talent, or other such features of humanity. n/t UTUSN Mar 2015 #35

Yes, he's eligible, but the simplistic answer you'll sometimes see is wrong. Jim Lane Mar 2015 #39

Great info, thanks for the post! n/t SickOfTheOnePct Mar 2015 #42

Thanks. 840high Mar 2015 #59

Yes. In 2008 the Senate declared that McCain was eligible and SCOTUS did the same for The CalgaryKid underpants Mar 2015 #47

Yes. nt. NCTraveler Mar 2015 #51

yes he's eligible Man from Pickens Mar 2015 #52

When was the last time a US President had to renounce foreign citizenship? Erich Bloodaxe BSN Mar 2015 #55

Check out Ted Cruz is Canadian. Agnosticsherbet Mar 2015 #58