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Cosmic Kitten

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221. I won't waste time with links

Sun Mar 22, 2015, 04:54 PM

Mar 2015

There is ample you tube, and transcripts
of Hillary spouting pro-war and hardline
support.

It's not worth cobbling it together
for the purpose of satisfying you.

However, it does exist, unlike the evidence
you require to support your truthiness.

The extrajudicial murder of a Gaddafi is NOT
something a normal, healthy person takes glee in.

"I'm sure it didn't" Nice eye roll she pulls there! ha ha ha

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Dear Hillary supporters, how can you trust her on issues of war and peace? [View all] cali Mar 2015 OP

I don't see her starting wars unless necessary. hrmjustin Mar 2015 #1

She signed on with the AUMF android fan Mar 2015 #3

Well she can answer your questions during a campaign. hrmjustin Mar 2015 #4

If she shows up in my state, android fan Mar 2015 #23

This email thing is nothing and she will run. hrmjustin Mar 2015 #31

Watch and see. The Tealiban can't help themselves. They will overreact and shout and scream OregonBlue Mar 2015 #66

. stonecutter357 Mar 2015 #78

Welcome back! zappaman Mar 2015 #175

Why? Bohemianwriter Mar 2015 #129

Your opinion, not mine.n/t. hrmjustin Mar 2015 #131

ha. Americans can be convinced to support war so easily it's horrifying. cali Mar 2015 #7

That may or may not be true but I don't see her as a warmonger. hrmjustin Mar 2015 #10

fine, but that's another thing altogether. I don't see that there's any evidence cali Mar 2015 #12

I see her as the most qualified and the one with the best shot. hrmjustin Mar 2015 #13

fair enough. I don't. cali Mar 2015 #15

Who can beat her in the general? hrmjustin Mar 2015 #19

I think Walker can. cali Mar 2015 #25

The little engine that couldn't? hrmjustin Mar 2015 #30

The Kochtopus will put whatever it takes hifiguy Mar 2015 #38

She will have her own money, hrmjustin Mar 2015 #39

No chance. cab67 Mar 2015 #118

Many could. morningfog Mar 2015 #42

If they can beat her they could beat any of ouf possible candidates. hrmjustin Mar 2015 #48

Absolutely. No one is inevitable and nothing morningfog Mar 2015 #51

NO YOU ARE WRONG. A "repuke" can NOT always win. MITT lost remember!! trueblue2007 Mar 2015 #86

My point is thst any given presidential election the possibility exists for them to win. hrmjustin Mar 2015 #89

Any Republican that doesn't squirt blood from their eyes during a debate like a horned lizard Scootaloo Mar 2015 #125

I think Hillary will mobilize are base even just fine. hrmjustin Mar 2015 #130

And a stronger liberal could do it even better Scootaloo Mar 2015 #132

Who? hrmjustin Mar 2015 #133

I don't think she will win or even run at all. android fan Mar 2015 #29

2 percent of the whole budget? Even the most liber would never yeoman6987 Mar 2015 #65

I'm lucky to live in a state that shows up early in the caucus/primary sequence. cab67 Mar 2015 #117

"I don't see her as a warmonger." BeanMusical Mar 2015 #41

You have a nice day. hrmjustin Mar 2015 #46

You too schmoopie. BeanMusical Mar 2015 #55

excuse me? hrmjustin Mar 2015 #59

You're forgiven. BeanMusical Mar 2015 #63

We are done. hrmjustin Mar 2015 #67

Thanks for reminding me! zappaman Mar 2015 #176

+1 Scuba Mar 2015 #47

Of course you don't because "warmonger" is a pejorative term. rhett o rick Mar 2015 #85

And one can disagree with her on a war vote as I did. hrmjustin Mar 2015 #91

I don't see how you can forgive her that decision and think she won't do it rhett o rick Mar 2015 #96

I doubt that very much. hrmjustin Mar 2015 #98

But will she support war against Iran? nm rhett o rick Mar 2015 #102

Well she is supportive of the presidents actions now. hrmjustin Mar 2015 #105

Libya... we came, we saw, he died. Cosmic Kitten Mar 2015 #193

That was the Presidents decision. hrmjustin Mar 2015 #194

Did she support that decision as SoS? Cosmic Kitten Mar 2015 #197

I am not going to base my vote over Libya. hrmjustin Mar 2015 #198

So she did have responsibility? Cosmic Kitten Mar 2015 #201

You can think she is a warmonger all you want. hrmjustin Mar 2015 #202

What defines a warmonger? Cosmic Kitten Mar 2015 #203

People who like war. hrmjustin Mar 2015 #204

What war or conflict has Hillary tried to avoid? Cosmic Kitten Mar 2015 #205

Are you saying she likes war? hrmjustin Mar 2015 #206

No, you are avoiding answereing to your own statement. Cosmic Kitten Mar 2015 #208

I don't have to provide evidence. hrmjustin Mar 2015 #209

True. That's where credibility come into play Cosmic Kitten Mar 2015 #211

Lol i guess I am just too dumb. hrmjustin Mar 2015 #212

Truthiness? Cosmic Kitten Mar 2015 #213

Oh I am truthful. hrmjustin Mar 2015 #214

Ok. Cosmic Kitten Mar 2015 #215

Neither is your attempts to paint her as a warmonger. hrmjustin Mar 2015 #216

I won't waste time with links Cosmic Kitten Mar 2015 #221

I am sorry but I am not crying for Gaddafi. hrmjustin Mar 2015 #222

We are talking about Hillary, not you... Cosmic Kitten Mar 2015 #223

You have not presented evidence to me that she is a warmonger. hrmjustin Mar 2015 #224

Bwahahaha!?! Cosmic Kitten Mar 2015 #225

is Obama a war monger? hrmjustin Mar 2015 #226

Truthiness it is! Cosmic Kitten Mar 2015 #227

Evasion on your part. i answered your question. hrmjustin Mar 2015 #229

cheers Cosmic Kitten Mar 2015 #230

So... Libya was a necessary war? Man from Pickens Mar 2015 #28

That decision rests with the president. hrmjustin Mar 2015 #57

wrong Man from Pickens Mar 2015 #72

My point was it was the president's call and not Hillary. hrmjustin Mar 2015 #73

So follow your own logic Rilgin Mar 2015 #119

I trust Hillary will use restraint. hrmjustin Mar 2015 #122

You are very naive. BeanMusical Mar 2015 #158

Why do you feel the need to insult me? hrmjustin Mar 2015 #162

It is not an insult. BeanMusical Mar 2015 #164

Says you. hrmjustin Mar 2015 #166

Sigh. BeanMusical Mar 2015 #168

If you wish to speak to me just speak plainly but don't make any jabs. hrmjustin Mar 2015 #169

+1 BeanMusical Mar 2015 #160

Least worst mikegibbo Mar 2015 #52

I agree she is the best candidate. hrmjustin Mar 2015 #58

On every ME issue she runs with Bibi toward war, and away from Obama. She is loyal to herself, leveymg Mar 2015 #70

Well you don't have to like her. hrmjustin Mar 2015 #71

I freaking trust her..Understanding that her bad decisions in the past have been.. busterbrown Mar 2015 #99

I think we can trust she won't start a war unless hughee99 Mar 2015 #101

My worry is her "necessary" does not match a real "necessary". nt Logical Mar 2015 #121

i hear you that you are worried. hrmjustin Mar 2015 #123

Actually, the primaries will be interesting. One thing for sure, Clinton is one smart person. nt Logical Mar 2015 #135

She is. hrmjustin Mar 2015 #137

I wish she would just announce. I guess the usual time frame is april to june. nt Logical Mar 2015 #138

Probably after Easter but yes I agree. hrmjustin Mar 2015 #139

One of Clinton's many failings android fan Mar 2015 #2

So true. hifiguy Mar 2015 #26

You forgot this one: BeanMusical Mar 2015 #44

She is no more a hawk than Obama OKNancy Mar 2015 #5

She is. I think the evidence is strong that she's more hawkish than President Obama cali Mar 2015 #6

Both Clintons were in favor of aggressive intervention in Syria. AtomicKitten Mar 2015 #54

the article is pertinent and it certainly is not just opinion and conjecture. cali Mar 2015 #9

it's slanted.. let's just say that OKNancy Mar 2015 #11

Like how Libya would be better off? Comrade Grumpy Mar 2015 #17

Nothing has changed in the last year. She still rides with Bibi against Obama leveymg Mar 2015 #74

"With the exception of Iraq" How sad that her decision on Iraq means so little to you. rhett o rick Mar 2015 #174

This is the 64 Trillion Dollar Question.. 2banon Mar 2015 #8

She's more hawkish than, say, me, but she's nowhere near the Dick Cheney level. DanTex Mar 2015 #14

Now, there's a campaign slogan: "I'm not as bad as Cheney!" Comrade Grumpy Mar 2015 #20

I wouldn't suggest it as a slogan. I'm sure she'll do better than that. DanTex Mar 2015 #21

"I'm sure she'll do better than that." BeanMusical Mar 2015 #50

Can anyone point out one thing she accomplished as Secretary of State awake Mar 2015 #16

She visited 112 countries and flew more than a million miles. Comrade Grumpy Mar 2015 #18

Lol well said LittleBlue Mar 2015 #127

I'd like to know that too. Yeah, it's great on her resume, but what were her achievements? cali Mar 2015 #22

will you actually read this? OKNancy Mar 2015 #24

hardly an unbiased source. and yeah, an unbiased source is important. cali Mar 2015 #27

Could you possibly combine all your anti-Hillary threads? Kingofalldems Mar 2015 #32

lol. yeah Liberal_in_LA Mar 2015 #33

nope, sorry. and there are just 2. cali Mar 2015 #35

I meant in the last week or so. Kingofalldems Mar 2015 #159

whatever OKNancy Mar 2015 #34

Indeed...Party Propaganda. The Repubs do it also. n/t KoKo Mar 2015 #37

She helped "avert war in Gaza?" Somebody needs to tell the Gazans it was all a bad dream. Comrade Grumpy Mar 2015 #36

no kidding. cali Mar 2015 #40

+1,000 Scuba Mar 2015 #53

Bingo! peacebird Mar 2015 #126

+1000 bravenak Mar 2015 #128

Very nice, OKNancy! yallerdawg Mar 2015 #45

Yes I read this and went to the cheerleading site it came from awake Mar 2015 #60

The war in Gaza is one she signalled Bibi he could wage and never say he was sorry. leveymg Mar 2015 #82

fud doesnt care about facts uponit7771 Mar 2015 #149

Read it, and have to LOL near the end. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Mar 2015 #153

"free" trade agreements are a fucking accomplishment? eridani Mar 2015 #185

That is a good question. earthside Mar 2015 #170

I thought about asking on the "Hillary Clinton (Group)" awake Mar 2015 #171

Post removed Post removed Mar 2015 #43

this has jack shit to do with Paul who I have never supported and that goes cali Mar 2015 #49

Consider the source. Scuba Mar 2015 #56

personal attack Ichingcarpenter Mar 2015 #69

......... davidpdx Mar 2015 #161

Lol, pathetic post. BeanMusical Mar 2015 #62

Hillary Clinton not one of us. The sooner we accept it the better. nt NYC_SKP Mar 2015 #64

"WE",,,,, really? Cryptoad Mar 2015 #104

Tell me what are her positives that outweigh her negatives? What the hell good has she done? NYC_SKP Mar 2015 #145

I wanted Lizzy to run, Cryptoad Mar 2015 #146

I'm holding out for some alternative, I figure they're waiting on HRC> nt NYC_SKP Mar 2015 #147

I hope you right,,,, Cryptoad Mar 2015 #150

I'd like to thing that voices of disapproval might encourage challengers. NYC_SKP Mar 2015 #151

You (and other Clinton supporters) are using a strawman to attack anyone who criticizes Clinton davidpdx Mar 2015 #165

Hillary Clinton blasts �unfair� world reaction over Gaza, cites anti-Semitism as factor Ichingcarpenter Mar 2015 #61

but but but.... she prevented war in Gaza. cali Mar 2015 #68

This!nt bravenak Mar 2015 #109

I think she is smart and savvy and would probably make an excellent president. I would love to see OregonBlue Mar 2015 #75

Are you a child? NYtoBush-Drop Dead Mar 2015 #76

So we should just hand her the nomination with out the challenge of winning it awake Mar 2015 #77

She needs to win the primaries. NYtoBush-Drop Dead Mar 2015 #172

no, are you a program that spouts cliches? cali Mar 2015 #80

"Are you a child?" Really? That's your best response? nm rhett o rick Mar 2015 #83

When all you have is name calling, every opponent needs a label HereSince1628 Mar 2015 #93

That's it. I particularly like, "the Rahmwellian "don't worry they've got no where to go" ". rhett o rick Mar 2015 #100

Excuse me - that's NOT 840high Mar 2015 #142

Psst. Any Democrat at all will be 'better than any Republican, PERIOD. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Mar 2015 #154

pretending to be morally pure. stonecutter357 Mar 2015 #79

uh no. but way to miss the point and not address the OP. cali Mar 2015 #81

Nope, nope, uh-ah, sorry... not a hawk, you shouldn't say that.... HereSince1628 Mar 2015 #84

Wow, lots of Hillary supporters here. Thinkingabout Mar 2015 #87

WW2 was the last time congress declared war awake Mar 2015 #92

We had many people killed on 9/11. Thinkingabout Mar 2015 #94

and? that hardly addresses the issue. ugh. cali Mar 2015 #95

I did address the issue. Thinkingabout Mar 2015 #97

nope. not even a smidgeon. You made no case as to cali Mar 2015 #103

To recognize that presidents initiate post-ww2 military conflicts Deny and Shred Mar 2015 #188

Good Lord. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Mar 2015 #155

You missed the whole point. Thinkingabout Mar 2015 #157

Congress pretty regulalry RESOLVES to give presidents authority to use the military HereSince1628 Mar 2015 #107

You're not going to get an answer. WilliamPitt Mar 2015 #88

yeah, but the non-answers are kinda interesting. cali Mar 2015 #90

Supporting one way does not mean you will always support every other war after that treestar Mar 2015 #106

I agree with that, but I think her history clearly indicates that she is a hawk. cali Mar 2015 #108

Hillary is a festering boil on the Democratic Party - if she wins the nomination whereisjustice Mar 2015 #110

A bit off topic, but does Hillary have any thoughts at all regarding poverty? Dragonfli Mar 2015 #192

She has Larry Summers as an advisor on economics forming her views on wealth whereisjustice Mar 2015 #199

^^^^+1^^^^ Cosmic Kitten Mar 2015 #234

Maybe it's damning with faint praise, but it's still the relevant point, it seems to me. Unvanguard Mar 2015 #111

Return question: Who would you trust on issues of war and peace, and why-- how do you know? n/t TygrBright Mar 2015 #112

If she is the Democratic nominee I will vote for her. Anyone who won't vote for the democratic still_one Mar 2015 #113

you can't bigtree Mar 2015 #114

About your para #1, does that imply you think Hillary supporters are progressive? HereSince1628 Mar 2015 #124

where the hell you got that is a mystery to me bigtree Mar 2015 #136

I think it comes from having the op's title in mind = target Hillary supporters HereSince1628 Mar 2015 #140

Recommend Read...Endless War is going to be the Important Issue for 2016... KoKo Mar 2015 #200

What difference does it make if the praise is faint or full? No President Christfukuistan. Fred Sanders Mar 2015 #115

an significant difference. cali Mar 2015 #116

Why I trust Hillary Clinton on issues of war and peace. yallerdawg Mar 2015 #120

"how can you trust her on issues of "War and Peace"? EX500rider Mar 2015 #134

Because she's Hillary... ileus Mar 2015 #141

I believe she did a responsible and professional job of implementing Pres. Obama's foreign policy... brooklynite Mar 2015 #143

I do trust her on issues such as cannibalism though. Katashi_itto Mar 2015 #144

Not at the top of my list any longer...shes wont look for trouble im fine with that uponit7771 Mar 2015 #148

Hillary spent four years trying to achieve peace in the world, this isthe job a SOS Thinkingabout Mar 2015 #152

not necessarily bigtree Mar 2015 #167

I am glad you included also. Thinkingabout Mar 2015 #173

oh sure. that's just what Henry Kissinger did. NO THE JOB IS NOT cali Mar 2015 #189

Is any part of the SOS negotiatijng for peace? Has she EVER tried to negotiate Thinkingabout Mar 2015 #190

"This time it will be different" seems to be the prevailing reason from the "Not as bad" wing. Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2015 #156

Very well said. +1 BeanMusical Mar 2015 #163

I trust her more than any Republican that might run. zappaman Mar 2015 #177

She cannot be trusted and she is old! akbacchus_BC Mar 2015 #178

Did you really criticize her for being old? What has DU become that we hate seniors? McCamy Taylor Mar 2015 #182

Sorry, I did not mean it that way! akbacchus_BC Mar 2015 #183

K & R !!! WillyT Mar 2015 #179

She supported Obama on Iran. joshcryer Mar 2015 #180

I trust her because she knows the value of children. McCamy Taylor Mar 2015 #181

Like the ones in Iraq? eridani Mar 2015 #186

war is not good for children. Gaza sucked for children. Hillary supported it wholeheartedly. cali Mar 2015 #187

K&R.... daleanime Mar 2015 #184

Her IWR vote is an automatic disqualifyer for me. Martin Eden Mar 2015 #191

Gee no mention at all of the promotion of her promotion gay rights abroad dsc Mar 2015 #195

This message was self-deleted by its author DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #196

bullfuckingshit. This is beneath you. You know perfectly well that my op cali Mar 2015 #219

I will delete it. I apologize./NT DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #231

thank you. cali Mar 2015 #232

You're welcome... DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #233

I'm fine with Hillary on social issues. But social issues are not the only issues cali Mar 2015 #218

she promoted those rights abroad dsc Mar 2015 #237

Of course I wrote it. Who posts someone elses words and doesn't credit them? cali Mar 2015 #238

you put a link in your OP to the nation blog dsc Mar 2015 #239

I trust hillary more than any batshit crazy conservative beachbum bob Mar 2015 #207

war and peace winetourdriver Mar 2015 #210

by looking at rhetoric and record. There is literally nothing in her rhetoric or record cali Mar 2015 #220

+1 Cosmic Kitten Mar 2015 #228

Yes Hekate Mar 2015 #217

It seems to me like Hillary supporters are only looking for THE WIN. djean111 Mar 2015 #235

Hillary gets NO SCOTUS without the Senate Cosmic Kitten Mar 2015 #236

By learning facts... NCTraveler Mar 2015 #240