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226. is Obama a war monger?

Reply to Cosmic Kitten (Reply #225)

Sun Mar 22, 2015, 05:11 PM

Mar 2015

Is Kerry?

to answer your question I would say someone who thinks waR is the answer to everything.

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Dear Hillary supporters, how can you trust her on issues of war and peace? [View all] cali Mar 2015 OP

I don't see her starting wars unless necessary. hrmjustin Mar 2015 #1

She signed on with the AUMF android fan Mar 2015 #3

Well she can answer your questions during a campaign. hrmjustin Mar 2015 #4

If she shows up in my state, android fan Mar 2015 #23

This email thing is nothing and she will run. hrmjustin Mar 2015 #31

Watch and see. The Tealiban can't help themselves. They will overreact and shout and scream OregonBlue Mar 2015 #66

. stonecutter357 Mar 2015 #78

Welcome back! zappaman Mar 2015 #175

Why? Bohemianwriter Mar 2015 #129

Your opinion, not mine.n/t. hrmjustin Mar 2015 #131

ha. Americans can be convinced to support war so easily it's horrifying. cali Mar 2015 #7

That may or may not be true but I don't see her as a warmonger. hrmjustin Mar 2015 #10

fine, but that's another thing altogether. I don't see that there's any evidence cali Mar 2015 #12

I see her as the most qualified and the one with the best shot. hrmjustin Mar 2015 #13

fair enough. I don't. cali Mar 2015 #15

Who can beat her in the general? hrmjustin Mar 2015 #19

I think Walker can. cali Mar 2015 #25

The little engine that couldn't? hrmjustin Mar 2015 #30

The Kochtopus will put whatever it takes hifiguy Mar 2015 #38

She will have her own money, hrmjustin Mar 2015 #39

No chance. cab67 Mar 2015 #118

Many could. morningfog Mar 2015 #42

If they can beat her they could beat any of ouf possible candidates. hrmjustin Mar 2015 #48

Absolutely. No one is inevitable and nothing morningfog Mar 2015 #51

NO YOU ARE WRONG. A "repuke" can NOT always win. MITT lost remember!! trueblue2007 Mar 2015 #86

My point is thst any given presidential election the possibility exists for them to win. hrmjustin Mar 2015 #89

Any Republican that doesn't squirt blood from their eyes during a debate like a horned lizard Scootaloo Mar 2015 #125

I think Hillary will mobilize are base even just fine. hrmjustin Mar 2015 #130

And a stronger liberal could do it even better Scootaloo Mar 2015 #132

Who? hrmjustin Mar 2015 #133

I don't think she will win or even run at all. android fan Mar 2015 #29

2 percent of the whole budget? Even the most liber would never yeoman6987 Mar 2015 #65

I'm lucky to live in a state that shows up early in the caucus/primary sequence. cab67 Mar 2015 #117

"I don't see her as a warmonger." BeanMusical Mar 2015 #41

You have a nice day. hrmjustin Mar 2015 #46

You too schmoopie. BeanMusical Mar 2015 #55

excuse me? hrmjustin Mar 2015 #59

You're forgiven. BeanMusical Mar 2015 #63

We are done. hrmjustin Mar 2015 #67

Thanks for reminding me! zappaman Mar 2015 #176

+1 Scuba Mar 2015 #47

Of course you don't because "warmonger" is a pejorative term. rhett o rick Mar 2015 #85

And one can disagree with her on a war vote as I did. hrmjustin Mar 2015 #91

I don't see how you can forgive her that decision and think she won't do it rhett o rick Mar 2015 #96

I doubt that very much. hrmjustin Mar 2015 #98

But will she support war against Iran? nm rhett o rick Mar 2015 #102

Well she is supportive of the presidents actions now. hrmjustin Mar 2015 #105

Libya... we came, we saw, he died. Cosmic Kitten Mar 2015 #193

That was the Presidents decision. hrmjustin Mar 2015 #194

Did she support that decision as SoS? Cosmic Kitten Mar 2015 #197

I am not going to base my vote over Libya. hrmjustin Mar 2015 #198

So she did have responsibility? Cosmic Kitten Mar 2015 #201

You can think she is a warmonger all you want. hrmjustin Mar 2015 #202

What defines a warmonger? Cosmic Kitten Mar 2015 #203

People who like war. hrmjustin Mar 2015 #204

What war or conflict has Hillary tried to avoid? Cosmic Kitten Mar 2015 #205

Are you saying she likes war? hrmjustin Mar 2015 #206

No, you are avoiding answereing to your own statement. Cosmic Kitten Mar 2015 #208

I don't have to provide evidence. hrmjustin Mar 2015 #209

True. That's where credibility come into play Cosmic Kitten Mar 2015 #211

Lol i guess I am just too dumb. hrmjustin Mar 2015 #212

Truthiness? Cosmic Kitten Mar 2015 #213

Oh I am truthful. hrmjustin Mar 2015 #214

Ok. Cosmic Kitten Mar 2015 #215

Neither is your attempts to paint her as a warmonger. hrmjustin Mar 2015 #216

I won't waste time with links Cosmic Kitten Mar 2015 #221

I am sorry but I am not crying for Gaddafi. hrmjustin Mar 2015 #222

We are talking about Hillary, not you... Cosmic Kitten Mar 2015 #223

You have not presented evidence to me that she is a warmonger. hrmjustin Mar 2015 #224

Bwahahaha!?! Cosmic Kitten Mar 2015 #225

is Obama a war monger? hrmjustin Mar 2015 #226

Truthiness it is! Cosmic Kitten Mar 2015 #227

Evasion on your part. i answered your question. hrmjustin Mar 2015 #229

cheers Cosmic Kitten Mar 2015 #230

So... Libya was a necessary war? Man from Pickens Mar 2015 #28

That decision rests with the president. hrmjustin Mar 2015 #57

wrong Man from Pickens Mar 2015 #72

My point was it was the president's call and not Hillary. hrmjustin Mar 2015 #73

So follow your own logic Rilgin Mar 2015 #119

I trust Hillary will use restraint. hrmjustin Mar 2015 #122

You are very naive. BeanMusical Mar 2015 #158

Why do you feel the need to insult me? hrmjustin Mar 2015 #162

It is not an insult. BeanMusical Mar 2015 #164

Says you. hrmjustin Mar 2015 #166

Sigh. BeanMusical Mar 2015 #168

If you wish to speak to me just speak plainly but don't make any jabs. hrmjustin Mar 2015 #169

+1 BeanMusical Mar 2015 #160

Least worst mikegibbo Mar 2015 #52

I agree she is the best candidate. hrmjustin Mar 2015 #58

On every ME issue she runs with Bibi toward war, and away from Obama. She is loyal to herself, leveymg Mar 2015 #70

Well you don't have to like her. hrmjustin Mar 2015 #71

I freaking trust her..Understanding that her bad decisions in the past have been.. busterbrown Mar 2015 #99

I think we can trust she won't start a war unless hughee99 Mar 2015 #101

My worry is her "necessary" does not match a real "necessary". nt Logical Mar 2015 #121

i hear you that you are worried. hrmjustin Mar 2015 #123

Actually, the primaries will be interesting. One thing for sure, Clinton is one smart person. nt Logical Mar 2015 #135

She is. hrmjustin Mar 2015 #137

I wish she would just announce. I guess the usual time frame is april to june. nt Logical Mar 2015 #138

Probably after Easter but yes I agree. hrmjustin Mar 2015 #139

One of Clinton's many failings android fan Mar 2015 #2

So true. hifiguy Mar 2015 #26

You forgot this one: BeanMusical Mar 2015 #44

She is no more a hawk than Obama OKNancy Mar 2015 #5

She is. I think the evidence is strong that she's more hawkish than President Obama cali Mar 2015 #6

Both Clintons were in favor of aggressive intervention in Syria. AtomicKitten Mar 2015 #54

the article is pertinent and it certainly is not just opinion and conjecture. cali Mar 2015 #9

it's slanted.. let's just say that OKNancy Mar 2015 #11

Like how Libya would be better off? Comrade Grumpy Mar 2015 #17

Nothing has changed in the last year. She still rides with Bibi against Obama leveymg Mar 2015 #74

"With the exception of Iraq" How sad that her decision on Iraq means so little to you. rhett o rick Mar 2015 #174

This is the 64 Trillion Dollar Question.. 2banon Mar 2015 #8

She's more hawkish than, say, me, but she's nowhere near the Dick Cheney level. DanTex Mar 2015 #14

Now, there's a campaign slogan: "I'm not as bad as Cheney!" Comrade Grumpy Mar 2015 #20

I wouldn't suggest it as a slogan. I'm sure she'll do better than that. DanTex Mar 2015 #21

"I'm sure she'll do better than that." BeanMusical Mar 2015 #50

Can anyone point out one thing she accomplished as Secretary of State awake Mar 2015 #16

She visited 112 countries and flew more than a million miles. Comrade Grumpy Mar 2015 #18

Lol well said LittleBlue Mar 2015 #127

I'd like to know that too. Yeah, it's great on her resume, but what were her achievements? cali Mar 2015 #22

will you actually read this? OKNancy Mar 2015 #24

hardly an unbiased source. and yeah, an unbiased source is important. cali Mar 2015 #27

Could you possibly combine all your anti-Hillary threads? Kingofalldems Mar 2015 #32

lol. yeah Liberal_in_LA Mar 2015 #33

nope, sorry. and there are just 2. cali Mar 2015 #35

I meant in the last week or so. Kingofalldems Mar 2015 #159

whatever OKNancy Mar 2015 #34

Indeed...Party Propaganda. The Repubs do it also. n/t KoKo Mar 2015 #37

She helped "avert war in Gaza?" Somebody needs to tell the Gazans it was all a bad dream. Comrade Grumpy Mar 2015 #36

no kidding. cali Mar 2015 #40

+1,000 Scuba Mar 2015 #53

Bingo! peacebird Mar 2015 #126

+1000 bravenak Mar 2015 #128

Very nice, OKNancy! yallerdawg Mar 2015 #45

Yes I read this and went to the cheerleading site it came from awake Mar 2015 #60

The war in Gaza is one she signalled Bibi he could wage and never say he was sorry. leveymg Mar 2015 #82

fud doesnt care about facts uponit7771 Mar 2015 #149

Read it, and have to LOL near the end. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Mar 2015 #153

"free" trade agreements are a fucking accomplishment? eridani Mar 2015 #185

That is a good question. earthside Mar 2015 #170

I thought about asking on the "Hillary Clinton (Group)" awake Mar 2015 #171

Post removed Post removed Mar 2015 #43

this has jack shit to do with Paul who I have never supported and that goes cali Mar 2015 #49

Consider the source. Scuba Mar 2015 #56

personal attack Ichingcarpenter Mar 2015 #69

......... davidpdx Mar 2015 #161

Lol, pathetic post. BeanMusical Mar 2015 #62

Hillary Clinton not one of us. The sooner we accept it the better. nt NYC_SKP Mar 2015 #64

"WE",,,,, really? Cryptoad Mar 2015 #104

Tell me what are her positives that outweigh her negatives? What the hell good has she done? NYC_SKP Mar 2015 #145

I wanted Lizzy to run, Cryptoad Mar 2015 #146

I'm holding out for some alternative, I figure they're waiting on HRC> nt NYC_SKP Mar 2015 #147

I hope you right,,,, Cryptoad Mar 2015 #150

I'd like to thing that voices of disapproval might encourage challengers. NYC_SKP Mar 2015 #151

You (and other Clinton supporters) are using a strawman to attack anyone who criticizes Clinton davidpdx Mar 2015 #165

Hillary Clinton blasts �unfair� world reaction over Gaza, cites anti-Semitism as factor Ichingcarpenter Mar 2015 #61

but but but.... she prevented war in Gaza. cali Mar 2015 #68

This!nt bravenak Mar 2015 #109

I think she is smart and savvy and would probably make an excellent president. I would love to see OregonBlue Mar 2015 #75

Are you a child? NYtoBush-Drop Dead Mar 2015 #76

So we should just hand her the nomination with out the challenge of winning it awake Mar 2015 #77

She needs to win the primaries. NYtoBush-Drop Dead Mar 2015 #172

no, are you a program that spouts cliches? cali Mar 2015 #80

"Are you a child?" Really? That's your best response? nm rhett o rick Mar 2015 #83

When all you have is name calling, every opponent needs a label HereSince1628 Mar 2015 #93

That's it. I particularly like, "the Rahmwellian "don't worry they've got no where to go" ". rhett o rick Mar 2015 #100

Excuse me - that's NOT 840high Mar 2015 #142

Psst. Any Democrat at all will be 'better than any Republican, PERIOD. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Mar 2015 #154

pretending to be morally pure. stonecutter357 Mar 2015 #79

uh no. but way to miss the point and not address the OP. cali Mar 2015 #81

Nope, nope, uh-ah, sorry... not a hawk, you shouldn't say that.... HereSince1628 Mar 2015 #84

Wow, lots of Hillary supporters here. Thinkingabout Mar 2015 #87

WW2 was the last time congress declared war awake Mar 2015 #92

We had many people killed on 9/11. Thinkingabout Mar 2015 #94

and? that hardly addresses the issue. ugh. cali Mar 2015 #95

I did address the issue. Thinkingabout Mar 2015 #97

nope. not even a smidgeon. You made no case as to cali Mar 2015 #103

To recognize that presidents initiate post-ww2 military conflicts Deny and Shred Mar 2015 #188

Good Lord. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Mar 2015 #155

You missed the whole point. Thinkingabout Mar 2015 #157

Congress pretty regulalry RESOLVES to give presidents authority to use the military HereSince1628 Mar 2015 #107

You're not going to get an answer. WilliamPitt Mar 2015 #88

yeah, but the non-answers are kinda interesting. cali Mar 2015 #90

Supporting one way does not mean you will always support every other war after that treestar Mar 2015 #106

I agree with that, but I think her history clearly indicates that she is a hawk. cali Mar 2015 #108

Hillary is a festering boil on the Democratic Party - if she wins the nomination whereisjustice Mar 2015 #110

A bit off topic, but does Hillary have any thoughts at all regarding poverty? Dragonfli Mar 2015 #192

She has Larry Summers as an advisor on economics forming her views on wealth whereisjustice Mar 2015 #199

^^^^+1^^^^ Cosmic Kitten Mar 2015 #234

Maybe it's damning with faint praise, but it's still the relevant point, it seems to me. Unvanguard Mar 2015 #111

Return question: Who would you trust on issues of war and peace, and why-- how do you know? n/t TygrBright Mar 2015 #112

If she is the Democratic nominee I will vote for her. Anyone who won't vote for the democratic still_one Mar 2015 #113

you can't bigtree Mar 2015 #114

About your para #1, does that imply you think Hillary supporters are progressive? HereSince1628 Mar 2015 #124

where the hell you got that is a mystery to me bigtree Mar 2015 #136

I think it comes from having the op's title in mind = target Hillary supporters HereSince1628 Mar 2015 #140

Recommend Read...Endless War is going to be the Important Issue for 2016... KoKo Mar 2015 #200

What difference does it make if the praise is faint or full? No President Christfukuistan. Fred Sanders Mar 2015 #115

an significant difference. cali Mar 2015 #116

Why I trust Hillary Clinton on issues of war and peace. yallerdawg Mar 2015 #120

"how can you trust her on issues of "War and Peace"? EX500rider Mar 2015 #134

Because she's Hillary... ileus Mar 2015 #141

I believe she did a responsible and professional job of implementing Pres. Obama's foreign policy... brooklynite Mar 2015 #143

I do trust her on issues such as cannibalism though. Katashi_itto Mar 2015 #144

Not at the top of my list any longer...shes wont look for trouble im fine with that uponit7771 Mar 2015 #148

Hillary spent four years trying to achieve peace in the world, this isthe job a SOS Thinkingabout Mar 2015 #152

not necessarily bigtree Mar 2015 #167

I am glad you included also. Thinkingabout Mar 2015 #173

oh sure. that's just what Henry Kissinger did. NO THE JOB IS NOT cali Mar 2015 #189

Is any part of the SOS negotiatijng for peace? Has she EVER tried to negotiate Thinkingabout Mar 2015 #190

"This time it will be different" seems to be the prevailing reason from the "Not as bad" wing. Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2015 #156

Very well said. +1 BeanMusical Mar 2015 #163

I trust her more than any Republican that might run. zappaman Mar 2015 #177

She cannot be trusted and she is old! akbacchus_BC Mar 2015 #178

Did you really criticize her for being old? What has DU become that we hate seniors? McCamy Taylor Mar 2015 #182

Sorry, I did not mean it that way! akbacchus_BC Mar 2015 #183

K & R !!! WillyT Mar 2015 #179

She supported Obama on Iran. joshcryer Mar 2015 #180

I trust her because she knows the value of children. McCamy Taylor Mar 2015 #181

Like the ones in Iraq? eridani Mar 2015 #186

war is not good for children. Gaza sucked for children. Hillary supported it wholeheartedly. cali Mar 2015 #187

K&R.... daleanime Mar 2015 #184

Her IWR vote is an automatic disqualifyer for me. Martin Eden Mar 2015 #191

Gee no mention at all of the promotion of her promotion gay rights abroad dsc Mar 2015 #195

This message was self-deleted by its author DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #196

bullfuckingshit. This is beneath you. You know perfectly well that my op cali Mar 2015 #219

I will delete it. I apologize./NT DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #231

thank you. cali Mar 2015 #232

You're welcome... DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #233

I'm fine with Hillary on social issues. But social issues are not the only issues cali Mar 2015 #218

she promoted those rights abroad dsc Mar 2015 #237

Of course I wrote it. Who posts someone elses words and doesn't credit them? cali Mar 2015 #238

you put a link in your OP to the nation blog dsc Mar 2015 #239

I trust hillary more than any batshit crazy conservative beachbum bob Mar 2015 #207

war and peace winetourdriver Mar 2015 #210

by looking at rhetoric and record. There is literally nothing in her rhetoric or record cali Mar 2015 #220

+1 Cosmic Kitten Mar 2015 #228

Yes Hekate Mar 2015 #217

It seems to me like Hillary supporters are only looking for THE WIN. djean111 Mar 2015 #235

Hillary gets NO SCOTUS without the Senate Cosmic Kitten Mar 2015 #236

By learning facts... NCTraveler Mar 2015 #240