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guillaumeb

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Sun Mar 22, 2015, 08:55 PM

Mar 2015

I was in a discussion one time with a Civil War re-enactor for the Confederate side. He talked about pride of heritage, pride of history.

I asked was he proud that that heritage was founded on chattel slavery? That discouraged further conversation about pride and heritage.

I also made a comment in a local letter to the editor expressing my opinion that many people in the US had obviously never gotten over their Civil War. I am not sure if the comment or my obviously French name was responsible for the response, but the response was quite heated.

I am a dual national, Canada/US, moving here as a teen, so I realize that my experience and history are different from many, but if the US cannot get past the civil war I do not see how the country will not continue to have the political warfare that goes on.

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We killed so many innocent people! [View all] marym625 Mar 2015 OP

What are our new wars? Agschmid Mar 2015 #1

The war on ISIS marym625 Mar 2015 #2

Seems outrageous... Agschmid Mar 2015 #6

The DU definition? marym625 Mar 2015 #8

Worth a read, but you'll need $30.00 to access it. Damn those Princeton Oligarchs... Agschmid Mar 2015 #10

$30 for what? marym625 Mar 2015 #14

Define the term for me. Joe Turner Mar 2015 #47

What?? You never heard that word except on DU? Are you JOKING? sabrina 1 Mar 2015 #80

evidently marym625 Mar 2015 #83

Well, I'm not trying to diminish your power, or Rhett's for that matter, but I don't think YOU made sabrina 1 Mar 2015 #85

LMAO! marym625 Mar 2015 #88

Okay, I won't! Lol! sabrina 1 Mar 2015 #128

No clearly I've heard of it, I just don't think people here understand the definition. Agschmid Mar 2015 #92

How very pompous of you. marym625 Mar 2015 #101

It's my fault. You are so astute to catch me in the error. I actually meant Plutocratic-Oligarchs. rhett o rick Mar 2015 #102

I know what you meant. marym625 Mar 2015 #104

I wouldn't exactly call ISIS an example of the oppressed peoples of the world.... n/t Adrahil Mar 2015 #22

Yah me either... Agschmid Mar 2015 #23

It's dramatic. marym625 Mar 2015 #28

Definitely sabrina 1 Mar 2015 #91

Failed to notice who? Agschmid Mar 2015 #93

I'm seeing projection there. It's very clear where sabrina stands what isn't clear is rhett o rick Mar 2015 #103

I'd like to call it "non-delusional". Agschmid Mar 2015 #118

Really? You are self identified as "non-delusional"?? Isn't everyone? nm rhett o rick Mar 2015 #145

And who publically exposed their own demon-like behavior in exactly the precise manner which would GoneFishin Mar 2015 #127

Except for the fact that the Iraq War created them BrotherIvan Mar 2015 #26

Well, I agree with that. So does Obama. Adrahil Mar 2015 #36

How about we stop giving them weapons BrotherIvan Mar 2015 #40

Yes I am sure the US government intended ISIS to get ahold of those weapons cstanleytech Mar 2015 #56

Bingo! marym625 Mar 2015 #81

I think you mean 500 million... EX500rider Mar 2015 #142

Million, billion, pallets of cash...who cares? BrotherIvan Mar 2015 #144

Stop killing them and their friends and families, bvar22 Mar 2015 #143

No, it didnt create them. The war though did create enough destabilization in the area cstanleytech Mar 2015 #54

Really? You think they came out like they marym625 Mar 2015 #27

I think Dubya created the conditions for them to arise. Adrahil Mar 2015 #38

Maybe, just maybe marym625 Mar 2015 #39

I wish that was the case but I really doubt it would much if any impact on cstanleytech Mar 2015 #57

I have no dreams of it ending anything marym625 Mar 2015 #59

"we'll never know. And that sucks." Agreed and yes it does suck. cstanleytech Mar 2015 #63

Yup, and unicorns might prance out of the forest too. n/t Adrahil Mar 2015 #64

Well we won't ever know marym625 Mar 2015 #69

No we wont and no they probably wont be but even if it did happen the leadership for ISIS cstanleytech Mar 2015 #74

I think if we leave it to the area that it's attacking marym625 Mar 2015 #75

Yes but we have tried isolationism at varies times in our history and its cstanleytech Mar 2015 #78

We can leave this alone marym625 Mar 2015 #79

And have a repeat of Europe after WWI which led to millions dying before and during WWII? cstanleytech Mar 2015 #84

I totally disagree marym625 Mar 2015 #86

Getting that bad? Just how much badder would it have to be before you would agree to get cstanleytech Mar 2015 #94

seriously? marym625 Mar 2015 #98

I didnt say they were "at" that level rather I was pointing out that they could get to it if we did cstanleytech Mar 2015 #105

We are part of the world when it comes to those poor girls marym625 Mar 2015 #106

Of course we cant be the police but we can help the locals find solutions to the problem of dealing cstanleytech Mar 2015 #109

I agree marym625 Mar 2015 #111

I cant agree there because there might come a time when such a thing is needed but it cstanleytech Mar 2015 #114

I can agree with that marym625 Mar 2015 #115

If we are responsible for the rise of ISIS... Adrahil Mar 2015 #121

I, obviously, disagree. marym625 Mar 2015 #124

I don;t see how any of those things would help right now. Adrahil Mar 2015 #137

nope. seems we will not. marym625 Mar 2015 #140

Yeah, unfortunately, they won't. But... Adrahil Mar 2015 #120

Never thought or said it would stop all the bad people. marym625 Mar 2015 #123

Doubt it. But I don't disagree that we should involve ourselves differently... Agschmid Mar 2015 #68

What and WHO are 'ISIS"?? I thought OUR enemy was Al Queda? Can you explain why sabrina 1 Mar 2015 #82

Wiki is your friend cstanleytech Mar 2015 #90

So you can't explain how an all powerful group of people who managed to control the oil revenues sabrina 1 Mar 2015 #95

I simply linked you an article about them, you wanted to know who they were after all though cstanleytech Mar 2015 #97

Why journalists, and not Mercenaries? Seems like an odd choice for a group who are our 'enemies'. sabrina 1 Mar 2015 #99

Yes I am well aware of Berg and what happened to him and later on what happened to some of the cstanleytech Mar 2015 #107

Explain you 'be like and tell the locals 'fuck you' applies to ME? I OPPOSED the sabrina 1 Mar 2015 #133

Ever heard of two wrongs dont make a right? Thats why. cstanleytech Mar 2015 #134

I am opposed to failure being repeated. We are probably the LAST country that can help them sabrina 1 Mar 2015 #141

Hint : Who killed two Reuters journalists in 2003 when they fired on the Palistine Hotel which the GoneFishin Mar 2015 #130

WE have to depose Maduro so TPP will work Doctor_J Mar 2015 #132

One of my nephews will never be the same again malaise Mar 2015 #3

The anger and pain I feel is just as raw marym625 Mar 2015 #5

My friend's brother was killed in Iraq by a fellow soldier. Octafish Mar 2015 #4

I'm so sorry for your friend's loss. marym625 Mar 2015 #7

R.I.P. Major Houseal pinboy3niner Mar 2015 #18

The US was founded on genocide and slavery guillaumeb Mar 2015 #9

Well, I'd like to think it went a little bit uphill (npi) at Little Round Top KingCharlemagne Mar 2015 #11

I am not familiar with Little Round Top guillaumeb Mar 2015 #13

Sorry, I often assume more than I should. Little Round Top was one of the KingCharlemagne Mar 2015 #20

thanks. you saved me a google search guillaumeb Mar 2015 #30

The South spent an entire century after 1865 pissing and moaning about KingCharlemagne Mar 2015 #37

"quickly went downhill" guillaumeb Mar 2015 #42

Gen. Joshua L. Chamberlain and the 20th Maine were heros, the best. appalachiablue Mar 2015 #43

I understand your argument marym625 Mar 2015 #15

what in particular, guillaumeb Mar 2015 #32

Neither marym625 Mar 2015 #35

I agree, if that makes sense guillaumeb Mar 2015 #41

on the contrary marym625 Mar 2015 #45

I think it was more that he had to weigh the benefits of a conviction vs the potential dmg it could cstanleytech Mar 2015 #112

Sorry, we disagree on the why marym625 Mar 2015 #113

Are you referring to this ? cstanleytech Mar 2015 #116

That's one of them marym625 Mar 2015 #119

Well you might want to find the others then as he didnt say he would prosecute in that one cstanleytech Mar 2015 #122

He said he would investigate marym625 Mar 2015 #125

Yes he said he would investigate but if you read the entire thing he said the rest of it cstanleytech Mar 2015 #126

the killing continues thanks to the obama administration. msongs Mar 2015 #12

yep. marym625 Mar 2015 #17

Unfortunately Mary... 99Forever Mar 2015 #16

In a way, I am. marym625 Mar 2015 #19

Prosecuting the Bush Crime Syndicate? 99th_Monkey Mar 2015 #21

I think I saw that marym625 Mar 2015 #24

That is exactly right, what it will take 99th_Monkey Mar 2015 #49

I can't watch it on my phone marym625 Mar 2015 #51

. 99th_Monkey Mar 2015 #53

I assume that means I got the name right? marym625 Mar 2015 #55

Yes, "The Revolution Will Not Be Televised" is the name of the movie 99th_Monkey Mar 2015 #72

Which is awesome in its own right! marym625 Mar 2015 #73

A family in the city I live had three sons in that war onecaliberal Mar 2015 #25

How awful marym625 Mar 2015 #31

I agree completely. onecaliberal Mar 2015 #34

The losses also continue from one generation to another pinboy3niner Mar 2015 #44

. marym625 Mar 2015 #67

Those two death listings are powerful pinboy3niner Mar 2015 #76

I'm so sorry. marym625 Mar 2015 #77

I knew only one Joe Rufty pinboy3niner Mar 2015 #96

I don't know what to say marym625 Mar 2015 #100

But the politicians who led us into that murderous mischief have been rewarded handsomely MannyGoldstein Mar 2015 #29

How? How do we stop it? marym625 Mar 2015 #33

Don't reward people who voted for this horror with a Presidential nomination. Maedhros Mar 2015 #50

I am doing my absolute best to make that happen. marym625 Mar 2015 #52

There is one way but talking about it is, last I knew, illegal nationalize the fed Mar 2015 #87

awesome! marym625 Mar 2015 #89

This message was self-deleted by its author Corruption Inc Mar 2015 #136

I so wish it would happen marym625 Mar 2015 #139

Yes, we have. madfloridian Mar 2015 #46

I'm sorry marym625 Mar 2015 #48

The Bush family is bush league compared to other genocidal slaughters that virgogal Mar 2015 #58

Yeah, it wasn't Rwanda marym625 Mar 2015 #60

Over one million dead, and that's just Iraqis, torture, permanent detentions with no charges sabrina 1 Mar 2015 #131

It did not stop after Bush. 840high Mar 2015 #61

I know marym625 Mar 2015 #62

Sad. 840high Mar 2015 #65

Very. marym625 Mar 2015 #66

Kick and R. BeanMusical Mar 2015 #70

Thanks. I'm didn't really expect anything new marym625 Mar 2015 #71

so very tired. nothing but war, every year, low intensity war that just goes on forever. ND-Dem Mar 2015 #108

Well said marym625 Mar 2015 #110

Thats because they pretty much have been cstanleytech Mar 2015 #117

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This message was self-deleted by its author Corruption Inc Mar 2015 #135

Well said marym625 Mar 2015 #138