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Beartracks

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46. Well... True. Republicans voted for McCain/PALIN and MITT for God's sake...

Mon Mar 23, 2015, 01:17 AM

Mar 2015

... cuz they at least believe even their silliest clown-car candidate is better than any Democrat. I'm sure many of them voted while holding their nose. But there's the all-important wedge issues that they'll vote on no matter how awful their candidate (and/or running mate) is. There's no other way to explain how close those elections even got.

But many Democrats seem to think it's helpful to NOT vote for an imperfect candidate, like it's somehow going to teach someone a lesson. You know what Democrats' wedge issue should be? KEEP REPUBLICANS OUT OF GOVERNMENT. That's it.

Is Hillary perfect? Far from it. I'd prefer a much more reliably liberal/progressive candidate. But could I count her to at least hit the right targets more often than any -- any -- Republican? You bet.

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If you are not committed to voting for the Democratic nominee [View all] redstateblues Mar 2015 OP

Well at least you are not trying to divide people up with your OP. Rex Mar 2015 #1

Well, let's just take that up when the general election comes along, shall we? NYC_SKP Mar 2015 #2

A Left Leaning Independent by chance? Autumn Mar 2015 #3

There is a Democratic nominee? Fumesucker Mar 2015 #4

I'm still waiting for someone to announce Aerows Mar 2015 #37

The old "You're with us, or you're against us!" ..hmmm... where have i heard that before? 99th_Monkey Mar 2015 #5

+1 BeanMusical Mar 2015 #66

Then DU should change its name to MannyGoldstein Mar 2015 #6

Hey Hey Manny LovingA2andMI Mar 2015 #27

nope! wildbilln864 Mar 2015 #98

Fixed! LovingA2andMI Mar 2015 #123

What utter nonsense is this?! sadoldgirl Mar 2015 #7

So sez you. I registered as a DEM, so that's what I am. I get to decide that. Smarmie Doofus Mar 2015 #8

Haha! Tht is not even a 'real' rule here on DU. See 2010 FL Senate race. Many here kelly1mm Mar 2015 #9

There IS NO Democratic Nominee. Or did I miss something?? sabrina 1 Mar 2015 #10

Oh, poor Sabrina sadoldgirl Mar 2015 #12

There IS a nominee? When did this happen? sabrina 1 Mar 2015 #15

It happened behind closed doors Art_from_Ark Mar 2015 #57

There are lots of Democrats who are not loyal Democrats. geek tragedy Mar 2015 #11

Please, explain to me sadoldgirl Mar 2015 #14

In terms of membership of a political party, it's an uncomplicated geek tragedy Mar 2015 #18

So, if the ticket were Miller/Lieberman rpannier Mar 2015 #28

A ticket of Mr. Ed and Caligula's horse would be more plausible. nt geek tragedy Mar 2015 #64

What is your line-in-the-sand rpannier Mar 2015 #65

I don't have theoretical lines in the sand, certainly not fantastical ones geek tragedy Mar 2015 #68

Nice dodge rpannier Mar 2015 #71

I would say presidential is a sine qua non geek tragedy Mar 2015 #90

Thus if the Party leaves the people sadoldgirl Mar 2015 #32

People who don't see significant differences between Romney and Obama were never Democrats geek tragedy Mar 2015 #63

By your definition those Democrats that supported the Bush lies that got us into rhett o rick Mar 2015 #33

Is there a nominee?? Who is it? Who are these 'disloyal' Democrats you speak of?? sabrina 1 Mar 2015 #16

You talkin to me? Ron Green Mar 2015 #13

Sorry, but that is not one of the requirements of registering as a Democrat dissentient Mar 2015 #17

Well, previously Vanilla Rhapsody was in charge of deciding who is a Democrat Dragonfli Mar 2015 #29

I see, so this is the new sheriff in town. dissentient Mar 2015 #34

Oooh! Oooh! I saw those cute little charts that tell us that Hillary is just as liberal as Warren, djean111 Mar 2015 #88

Obviously, this person is our new Loyalty Officer. Power to the People! Katashi_itto Mar 2015 #104

OMG, say it isn't so! My universe will crumble if I'm not called a Democrat! winter is coming Mar 2015 #19

See what that got ya? And it gets worse... TreasonousBastard Mar 2015 #20

I'm a Democrat and committed to voting for my choice of candidates. Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2015 #21

I am committed to voting for the person who best represents the democratic principles and values on point Mar 2015 #22

Umm we haven't even started the primary Marrah_G Mar 2015 #23

Yawn. cherokeeprogressive Mar 2015 #24

++++ fadedrose Mar 2015 #38

Thought about this post.....In The Form of Meme's LovingA2andMI Mar 2015 #25

Just look at all the sarcastic responses in this thread... TerrapinFlyer Mar 2015 #26

"Hillary is going to be the candidate. There is no real other challenger." LovingA2andMI Mar 2015 #36

Like I said in my post rpannier Mar 2015 #43

Stop trying to shove Hillary down our throats ffs. cui bono Mar 2015 #44

They're drones LittleBlue Mar 2015 #58

The Evangelicals stayed home, refusing to vote for Romney Mnpaul Mar 2015 #80

Yeah, a lot of us actually realize that if you keep electing ever more rightward candidates Erich Bloodaxe BSN Mar 2015 #91

I. Will. Not. Vote. For. Hillary. Katashi_itto Mar 2015 #105

Let the hate fully envelope you! TerrapinFlyer Mar 2015 #107

Nope, I have no problems with her running. I simply won't vote for her. Katashi_itto Mar 2015 #109

Who. Cares. Bobbie Jo Mar 2015 #113

It's not up to the party to unite. It's up to the candidate to unite the party. jeff47 Mar 2015 #111

Most people will come around by October of next year and it doesn't really matter until then. Unvanguard Mar 2015 #30

Come around to what? n/t cui bono Mar 2015 #41

Voting for the Democratic nominee. n/t Unvanguard Mar 2015 #42

Who is not necessarily going to be Hillary. n/t cui bono Mar 2015 #45

But that still holds whether it's Clinton or not. Unvanguard Mar 2015 #50

Okay. That's good. cui bono Mar 2015 #53

There's a Democratic nominee? fbc Mar 2015 #31

As Scott Pelley said on the CBS Evening News tonight Mnpaul Mar 2015 #122

And you're willing to see a 6-3 or 7-2 Scalia SCOTUS lobodons Mar 2015 #35

A 6-3 or a 7-2 is not actually any different than a 5-4. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Mar 2015 #92

I'm committed to not voting for Hillary cui bono Mar 2015 #39

You mean, if I didn't vote for someone like Kesha Rogers, Democratic nominee for the House in TX-22 rpannier Mar 2015 #40

Well... True. Republicans voted for McCain/PALIN and MITT for God's sake... Beartracks Mar 2015 #46

Shouldn't we have a higher standard than "not republican"? Scootaloo Mar 2015 #51

Yes, we should. Most definitely. Beartracks Mar 2015 #72

I knew there was going to be a 'but' after the title Scootaloo Mar 2015 #74

And it will n/t Oilwellian Mar 2015 #116

To clarify: fight for progressive candidates, BUT... Beartracks Mar 2015 #125

when labels force me to do something, I drop that label. When my father told me liberal_at_heart Mar 2015 #47

I will not vote for someone who is not a liberal Scootaloo Mar 2015 #48

I'm sorry you are getting crap for your post. KMOD Mar 2015 #49

The Democratic Party is our servant, not our master starroute Mar 2015 #52

I remember when serious candidates announced they were candidates... fadedrose Mar 2015 #54

This is actually early in the cycle timeline... Bluenorthwest Mar 2015 #96

I remember the Iowa and NH caucuses fadedrose Mar 2015 #100

Repeat of Hillary vs Obama time marlakay Mar 2015 #55

If it weren't for your whopping 1,670 posts, I might be tempted to call "Bullshit." RufusTFirefly Mar 2015 #56

How many of them are currently registered as Democrats? riqster Mar 2015 #78

One or none. RufusTFirefly Mar 2015 #112

Proudly Socialist! [n/t] Maedhros Mar 2015 #59

whatever gets you through the night demwing Mar 2015 #60

According to party rules, all that is required to be a Democrat is to be registered as a Democrat. Agnosticsherbet Mar 2015 #61

Here come the purity tests. Do ya think we should force people to sign a pledge like whereisjustice Mar 2015 #62

Only if "Democrat" is defined as a party. To me, it is a range of ideological positions. Bonobo Mar 2015 #67

Also, and I quote this because I care, "there are a lot of decaffeinated brands on the market jtuck004 Mar 2015 #69

Val Kilmer's character in Real Genius. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Mar 2015 #93

Your logical fallacy is: DRoseDARs Mar 2015 #70

I still stand behind the most rational of the declared candidates at this point: Buns_of_Fire Mar 2015 #73

I would actually get behind a candidate who promised to always take the polled position. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Mar 2015 #94

You have a higher opinion of American intelligence than I do! Buns_of_Fire Mar 2015 #101

Well, certainly the polled position isn't ALWAYS right. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Mar 2015 #108

Vermin Supreme spent years as a Republican, so vote for his rival, Beef Supreme. Bluenorthwest Mar 2015 #97

But Vermin Supreme has promised every American a pony! Buns_of_Fire Mar 2015 #103

OK if you say so; so what are the other requirements? anotojefiremnesuka Mar 2015 #75

I'm going to vote for the Democratic nominee, unless we nomiate a Republican. dolphinsandtuna Mar 2015 #76

Me too. I don't vote Republican or Republican(D). /nt RiverLover Mar 2015 #79

I am committed to vote thus. Every election, every race. riqster Mar 2015 #77

Did you vote for Ralph Nader? B Calm Mar 2015 #81

Because it's about browbeating, not policy Android3.14 Mar 2015 #82

It's also likely about anxiety management...they know shifting right pisses off the left HereSince1628 Mar 2015 #85

. corkhead Mar 2015 #83

This is just barely-veiled campaigning for Hillary Man from Pickens Mar 2015 #84

Mondale is more qualified Mnpaul Mar 2015 #121

I like bernie RedstDem Mar 2015 #86

If the Democratic nominee is not committed to the 99% Martin Eden Mar 2015 #87

Correct. I'm a Democratic Socialist. nt Erich Bloodaxe BSN Mar 2015 #89

Post removed Post removed Mar 2015 #95

I'm committed to once again most likely having to hold my nose and carry a barf bag while voting. hobbit709 Mar 2015 #99

I call myself a Democrat, LWolf Mar 2015 #102

It says right here on my registration card HappyMe Mar 2015 #106

Has the Passive-Aggressive Party nominated a candidate yet? n/t Orsino Mar 2015 #110

Well... Lizzie Poppet Mar 2015 #114

Okay. Comrade Grumpy Mar 2015 #115

This message was self-deleted by its author Corruption Inc Mar 2015 #117

I'm rubber, you're glue.. PowerToThePeople Mar 2015 #118

If you are committed to voting for a corporate owned, surveillance state loving, warmongering TheKentuckian Mar 2015 #119

Well, I've never been secretative about not being a registered Democrat. ladyVet Mar 2015 #120

I'd argue we need more of me and fewer Clintonites regardless what you want to call me. :) Chan790 Mar 2015 #124

So you want those of us who support Clinton to leave or post lrss? hrmjustin Mar 2015 #126

When we have a nominee DU will unite around that nominee. hrmjustin Mar 2015 #127

No membership card in my wallet. stone space Mar 2015 #128

This is true, and this will be put to an interesting test if HRC is nominated Algernon Moncrieff Mar 2015 #129