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In reply to the discussion: CODE RED – Computerized Election Theft and the New American Century [View all]KansDem
(28,498 posts)10. I've often wondered about the Homeland Security shutdown of the count...
LEBANON - Citing concerns about potential terrorism, Warren County officials locked down the county administration building on election night and blocked anyone from observing the vote count as the nation awaited Ohio's returns.
County officials say they took the action Tuesday night for homeland security, although state elections officials said they didn't know of any other Ohio county that closed off its elections board. Media organizations protested, saying it violated the law and the public's rights. The Warren results, delayed for hours because of long lines that extended voting past the scheduled close of polls, were part of the last tallies that helped clinch President Bush's re-election.
"The media should have been permitted into the area where there was counting," Enquirer attorney Jack Greiner said. "This is a process that should be done in complete transparency and it wasn't."
Warren County Emergency Services Director Frank Young said he had recommended increased security based on information received from the U.S. Department of Homeland Security and the Federal Bureau of Investigation in recent weeks.
Commissioners made the security decisions in a closed-door meeting last week, but didn't publicize the restrictions that were made until after polls closed.
"If we were going to make a judgment, we wanted to err on the side of caution," Commissioner Pat South said Thursday. "... Hindsight is 20-20. There was never any intent to exclude the press.
"We were trying to protect security."
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http://www.enquirer.com/editions/2004/11/05/loc_warrenvote05.html
County officials say they took the action Tuesday night for homeland security, although state elections officials said they didn't know of any other Ohio county that closed off its elections board. Media organizations protested, saying it violated the law and the public's rights. The Warren results, delayed for hours because of long lines that extended voting past the scheduled close of polls, were part of the last tallies that helped clinch President Bush's re-election.
"The media should have been permitted into the area where there was counting," Enquirer attorney Jack Greiner said. "This is a process that should be done in complete transparency and it wasn't."
Warren County Emergency Services Director Frank Young said he had recommended increased security based on information received from the U.S. Department of Homeland Security and the Federal Bureau of Investigation in recent weeks.
Commissioners made the security decisions in a closed-door meeting last week, but didn't publicize the restrictions that were made until after polls closed.
"If we were going to make a judgment, we wanted to err on the side of caution," Commissioner Pat South said Thursday. "... Hindsight is 20-20. There was never any intent to exclude the press.
"We were trying to protect security."
--more--
http://www.enquirer.com/editions/2004/11/05/loc_warrenvote05.html
Except Homeland Security didn't issue any warnings in Ohio.
But now, thanks to Jesse Ventura and Greg Palast, we know the whole 9/11 tragedy was to get Bush into Iraq to keep Saddam from selling Iraq oil on the world market.
Saudi Royal Family and the Bushes: friends and business partners.
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CODE RED – Computerized Election Theft and the New American Century [View all]
Time for change
Mar 2015
OP
Electronic voting is not secure...look at ANY year's computer hacking headlines for the evidence.
Fred Sanders
Mar 2015
#3
Lucas county partial results above make the switch from Kerry to Green candidate Cobb obvious.
hedda_foil
Mar 2015
#106
What still haunts me is the fact that the voting machine vendor reprogrammed all the machines
hedda_foil
Mar 2015
#123
Except that bradblog.com has been covering electronic vote theft. Electronic, the NEW way
valerief
Mar 2015
#16
The issue of electronic vote manipulation has been made into a pariah by our corporate news media
Time for change
Mar 2015
#18
There were lots of problems with poorly sealed bags. We've changed bags since then because of that.
PeaceNikki
Mar 2015
#75
I was there and read it 4 years ago. The melodrama and silly rumors were bad enough in real time.
PeaceNikki
Mar 2015
#78
If there were evidence of fraud, Kloppenburg and our team would have found it
PeaceNikki
Mar 2015
#91
Perhaps so...point to where she says those security failures were utilized.
brooklynite
Mar 2015
#54
I'm not arguing that there aren't potential issues, I'm arguing no evidence of intentional fraud
brooklynite
Mar 2015
#102
Thank you. I've been talking about this since 2004/5 when the Ohio data came out.
CaptainTruth
Mar 2015
#27
What are you doing in your State to improve the voting systems? Anything? Nothing?
Bluenorthwest
Mar 2015
#28
until we return to verifiable voting via hand counted paper ballots, we have no democracy and no
Kip Humphrey
Mar 2015
#33
Okay...you've got your hand-counted paper ballots. How do you aggregate the votes?
brooklynite
Mar 2015
#56
Same old BS, you have no idea of the election system in the US. There are over 50,000 voting
CK_John
Mar 2015
#38
Why do scanners and machines have proprietery code we citizens aren't allowed to inspect?
Omaha Steve
Mar 2015
#42
That's why many tactics are utilized, silly human. When the known issues are not tackled, and
mother earth
Mar 2015
#43
What if there are many individual voting precincts that have veribiable voting?
Time for change
Mar 2015
#72
Check it out ~ we even had an Electronic Voting Links Library here at DU years ago:
Zorra
Mar 2015
#49
The DU right wing will do its best to convince you that vote manipulation..."
brooklynite
Mar 2015
#65
Great to see you posting again. This is probably the most important issue before us today.
rhett o rick
Mar 2015
#80
I don't have the statistics but I believe that exit polling has been very accurate in
rhett o rick
Mar 2015
#101
2006 we took back the House....and pick up 5 Governorships and 6 senate seats
brooklynite
Mar 2015
#98
If Dems show up in numbers, there's no way they can win. They're not showing up.
YOHABLO
Mar 2015
#95
14th Characteristic of Fascism (http://www.rense.com/general37/char.htm):
blkmusclmachine
Mar 2015
#110
Watch for Republicans gaining and passing from behind when the later returns come in.
GoneFishin
Mar 2015
#114
Okay...for the sake of discussion, let's stipulate that there's digital tampering of elections...
brooklynite
Mar 2015
#118