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JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
35. I live very close to reservation economies
Mon Mar 23, 2015, 05:39 PM
Mar 2015

given that it is about the only industry the reservations can attract is more of an indictment on the extreme poverty that exists that outweighs whatever benefits the casinos bring in terms of employment & economic activity. There are a wide variety of factors that contribute because for example a car loan or financing are less unwilling because of how difficult it is to repo a car or enforcing judgments in reservation land. Ownership of property in addition to the many number of problems which includes nuclear testing.

But in how it relates to Casinos I found studies and it is basically true. I live very close to Casino Arizona which is next door to Mesa. Talking Stick is next door to Scottsdale. Wild Horse Pass is somewhat southwest of Chandler but there are many signs letting you know which exit to take to find "Wild Horse Pass"

Also, it briefly mentions the outside investors. This relates to the money & influence point you made, a lot of people unaware of outside investors regarding reservation casinos, I don't mean outside by outside the reservation. I across the Pacific ocean investors

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Casinos also provide much-needed job opportunities on reservations. In 1989, average levels of unemployment on reservations was above 30 percent. In the next decade, that rate dropped to 13 percent on reservations with casinos, while remaining stagnant on reservations without casinos.[57]

Casinos' impact on overall economic conditions, however, is limited. Through the 1990s, the number of reservation residents eligible for public assistance programs increased across on most reservations. Although the rate of increase was slightly less on reservations that had casinos, the casinos were unable to reverse trends of worsening poverty.[58] There are a number of factors explaining why casinos have done little to change living conditions on many reservations, despite the income they bring in. First, a relatively small number of casinos bring in the majority of casino income. In the 1990s, ten casinos brought in more than half the earned money, and 20 percent of casinos brought in more than 80 percent of earnings.[59]

Those that are most financially successful tend to be small reservations with relatively few inhabitants located near metropolitan areas that do not have as high poverty rates as larger, more rural reservations, which hold a much greater portion of the nations' reservation inhabitants.[60] Many of the reservations facing the most dire poverty also are the most geographically isolated, meaning outside tourists rarely travel to the casinos. Instead, they are visited by reservation residents. Depending on the profit distribution plan of the tribe, this can result in a redistribution of income from many to a few,[61] and a factionalization of the reservation population between those who spend at casinos and those who earn from them.[62]

When reservation residents spend portions of their sometimes very sparse incomes gambling, casinos can serve to exacerbate rather than relieve conditions of poverty.[59] This is especially true when a casino's income is sent off the reservation, as is frequently the case when tribal governments must rely on outside investors to build casinos. These non-native investors often take substantial portions of the profits for years following construction to repay their initial contributions.[63] Beyond initial investments, some casinos rely on outside management companies for day-to-day operations. Currently, fifteen percent of casino revenues go to such management firms.[57]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reservation_poverty

It makes sense, I doubt many people make the trip up the beeline highway to go to that Casino but I imagine it is more successful than those rest stop casinos. Though it mentions about the casino section that Arizona has one of the highest reservation poverty rates, Navajo nation is up there with Window Rock & the 4-corners, very isolated.

Very troubling indeed regarding casinos impact regarding the surrounding communities in my state but the state sponsored gambling has the "You can't win if you don't play" or commercials with money following from the sky with claims how much money the Arizona lotto industry is giving away this year but the reservation are more state-sponsored than people realize.

He's trying to run for Vice President bigdarryl Mar 2015 #1
I don't think so. I think he sees that there is a worry about HRC in a certain group of our party FSogol Mar 2015 #2
I think I'd expand that comment a bit-- Jackpine Radical Mar 2015 #49
Doesn't look like it - I doubt Hillary wants a running mate who is very liberal at all. djean111 Mar 2015 #3
Hillary Clinton cynical? RiverNoord Mar 2015 #11
And even if she wanted a liberal, her financiers would veto such a VP, so not gonna happen. closeupready Mar 2015 #77
nope. he's going directly after Hillary. In a big way. cali Mar 2015 #4
I have thought of him and Warren on a ticket together. CTyankee Mar 2015 #5
I think O'Malley will appeal to Midwest and Western voters. If you have watched FSogol Mar 2015 #6
I hope you are right! CTyankee Mar 2015 #19
kick for later n/t hootinholler Mar 2015 #7
Thank you. This is the first that I have heard about where he stands and I like it. jwirr Mar 2015 #8
Some more info: FSogol Mar 2015 #9
He is running as someone that is aware of where Hillary Clinton is weakest JonLP24 Mar 2015 #10
I agree. Campaign rhetoric is not to be really trusted. djean111 Mar 2015 #13
this is hard to jive angrychair Mar 2015 #12
Alot of Democrats agreed with him because they voted to approve casinos in the 2012 elections. DCBob Mar 2015 #14
Like Hillary won't pretend to move left. nt djean111 Mar 2015 #53
LOL...at least you can say you got to be first! snooper2 Mar 2015 #16
Shows up in every O'Malley thread to bash him. Ikonoklast Mar 2015 #21
See this: elleng Mar 2015 #18
while positive sounding angrychair Mar 2015 #20
Prove your thesis. Ikonoklast Mar 2015 #22
Regarding gambling? JonLP24 Mar 2015 #26
Anecdote is not Data. Ikonoklast Mar 2015 #31
How was a lot of that measured? JonLP24 Mar 2015 #34
agree to disagree angrychair Mar 2015 #42
hit a nerve? angrychair Mar 2015 #32
I live very close to reservation economies JonLP24 Mar 2015 #35
I believe the gaming industry preys on stupid people, with no WestSeattle2 Mar 2015 #23
It is worse when it less regulated or tolerated JonLP24 Mar 2015 #30
Many intelligent people have gambling addictions. Maedhros Mar 2015 #59
The liberals totally fell asleep on that issue IronLionZion Mar 2015 #54
Casinos? If that's the worst of it, that's pretty damn good Orangepeel Mar 2015 #60
it goes to good judgement angrychair Mar 2015 #62
Well, actually Maryland has all of those strong foundation things Orangepeel Mar 2015 #64
Doesn't bother me whatsoever. I like a flutter every now and then. So what. closeupready Mar 2015 #81
This was posters at Vox today: Raine1967 Mar 2015 #15
Good to see, Raine. elleng Mar 2015 #36
THANKS, FSogol! elleng Mar 2015 #17
Obama sounded pretty progressive too, but moved right when elected. betterdemsonly Mar 2015 #24
BS. He was mayor of Baltimore and Governor of Maryland. There are tons of info on his record FSogol Mar 2015 #27
The US News and World Reports writeup betterdemsonly Mar 2015 #38
I look forward to reading your posts where you promote Democrats running for office FSogol Mar 2015 #46
He is. wyldwolf Mar 2015 #63
Bingo. I think you hit MOM's weak spot. How many will believe his nice sounding words? Peregrine Took Mar 2015 #28
Except that O'Malley has a good record of doing what he said. FSogol Mar 2015 #29
good thing for our country that those with the ignorant cheap pot shots have no clue about the Cha Mar 2015 #55
O'Malley's been an elected official for 25 years, from city council to governor Orangepeel Mar 2015 #61
How about Warren for prez, him for VP? LittleBlue Mar 2015 #25
I'd like to see his website LWolf Mar 2015 #33
Thanks for this. KoKo Mar 2015 #65
You're welcome. LWolf Mar 2015 #66
Take a look at wyldwolf's post #63 if you haven't seen it already. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Mar 2015 #82
Your post isn't fair to him, LWolf. senz Mar 2015 #67
see post 63 Erich Bloodaxe BSN Mar 2015 #83
Sounds like he's a Perfect VP Candidate for Hillary given his beliefs/connections... KoKo Mar 2015 #84
Sure it's LWolf Mar 2015 #85
Before anyone gets too excited ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2015 #37
Yeah, but in fairness Jeff Rosenzweig Mar 2015 #40
But he only "just showed up from nowhere" and all ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2015 #44
LOL Cali_Democrat Mar 2015 #52
I guess someone was embarassed of his/her/their thoughts ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2015 #58
Out of nowhere! IronLionZion Mar 2015 #56
Now if we can just convince the real thing to run. Fearless Mar 2015 #39
+1 /nt RiverLover Mar 2015 #57
I could see working the phones etc. for him in Iowa Omaha Steve Mar 2015 #41
One question MFrohike Mar 2015 #43
Other than Bill Hyers (Bill de Blasio's campaign manager) I don't really know. FSogol Mar 2015 #45
Oh wow MFrohike Mar 2015 #50
Useful, FSogol. elleng Mar 2015 #51
What a bad headline - sure, he sounds "a lot like warren", but he sounds JUST like O'Malley!!!! George II Mar 2015 #47
DUPE, sorry George II Mar 2015 #48
O'Malley quote: Marijuana can be a gateway to harmful activity. No thanks! B Calm Mar 2015 #68
And yet he approved Medical Marijuana for his state. n/t FSogol Mar 2015 #69
That he did, but he don't approve of legalization! B Calm Mar 2015 #70
It'll take longer to legalize in some places than others. FSogol Mar 2015 #71
Right now that's his stance. He needs to get with the opinion of the majority of B Calm Mar 2015 #72
Not sure I agree that it is the "opinion of the majority of people in our country", but FSogol Mar 2015 #73
You would be suprised how many people want it legalized. It might not be the number B Calm Mar 2015 #74
Have Sanders, Warren, Webb, or HRC promoted legalization? n/t FSogol Mar 2015 #76
Have any of them stated that marijuana is a a gateway to B Calm Mar 2015 #78
I don't know, that's why I asked. FSogol Mar 2015 #79
Maybe he'll evolve. bigwillq Mar 2015 #80
Whoa, I'm liking this guy. Big K&R closeupready Mar 2015 #75
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