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47. Are you in favor then of doing away with Social Security?

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Mon Mar 23, 2015, 08:20 PM

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Hillary Clinton is getting serious about social mobility [View all] DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 OP

Yup, she's definitely upwardly mobile. leveymg Mar 2015 #1

You do know there have been Democratic leaders that make the Clintons look like pikers. DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #3

I know, there's really no respect for the way the Clintons did it Man from Pickens Mar 2015 #5

Anything earned is more precious than anything given. DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #7

Old wealth sometimes know the concept of noblesse oblige lumberjack_jeff Mar 2015 #15

It's easy to be noble when you don't have to work. DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #16

FDR didn't need to work. n/t lumberjack_jeff Mar 2015 #19

Great man. DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #20

Yes. But I see two sides lumberjack_jeff Mar 2015 #24

But there was no internet when FDR ran. Old and In the Way Mar 2015 #60

Did they trade on the prestige of offices held too? MFrohike Mar 2015 #27

Pat Riley gets 40k for a speech...That's not the lofty 300K the Clintons get... DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #30

Interesting MFrohike Mar 2015 #33

Too busy being the general manager of the Miami Heat. DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #35

Sheesh MFrohike Mar 2015 #49

What do the Kochs have to do with the great Pat Riley and the Clintons?/NT DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #50

What does Pat Riley have to do with Bill Clinton? MFrohike Mar 2015 #59

the kochs largely inherited dsc Mar 2015 #56

Partly MFrohike Mar 2015 #58

Good for her. But... JaneyVee Mar 2015 #4

That was my reaction. And I've seen both on this site. People saying pnwmom Mar 2015 #8

That was to illustrate the extra pockets for her second Blackberry leveymg Mar 2015 #97

One photo would have illustrated that. The picture of a dozen pantsuits in different hues pnwmom Mar 2015 #105

That was one image of a dozen pantsuits. It's on Google images. I don't go to Rethug sites. leveymg Mar 2015 #150

Google images links to Rethugs sites. And that's where that originated, not here. pnwmom Mar 2015 #158

Poor dear! HappyMe Mar 2015 #11

I wonder if Addison Mizner built her Summer home DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #14

Don't know, don't care. HappyMe Mar 2015 #18

she grew up upper middle class and has only gotten richer. ND-Dem Mar 2015 #42

While it is totally not the point at all Bettie Mar 2015 #153

That was the first thing I noticed, as well. leveymg Mar 2015 #156

This would be a great place to start looking why some areas flourish and others does not. Thinkingabout Mar 2015 #2

Little last to the party Fearless Mar 2015 #6

incorrect. She has a voting recond in the Senate that disputes that DU meme OKNancy Mar 2015 #28

That she only supports things when they're already popular Fearless Mar 2015 #126

Better late than never huh? n/t cherokeeprogressive Mar 2015 #9

incorrect, she has always fought for good wages, OKNancy Mar 2015 #29

TPP. End of discussion android fan Mar 2015 #57

Authored? It's still being negotiated. She's a private citizen. Stop making things up and MADem Mar 2015 #67

Oh. My. Word. woo me with science Mar 2015 #72

Four or Five years ago she was ASKED to get it going OKNancy Mar 2015 #145

Then the OP is unnecessary? cherokeeprogressive Mar 2015 #62

What utter bullshit. She is an AUTHOR of the TPP. woo me with science Mar 2015 #66

Amazing how a private citizen can get around that table where it's being negotiated... MADem Mar 2015 #70

Like the 700 or so TPP corporate advisors? MannyGoldstein Mar 2015 #75

Oh, there you go again, with your childish mis-direction--we're talking about Clinton, here. MADem Mar 2015 #96

Were you not marveling at the ability MannyGoldstein Mar 2015 #100

No, the conversation was about a "Secretary of State" who was supposedly "WRITING" the TPP. MADem Mar 2015 #103

"Amazing how a private citizen can get around that table where it's being negotiated..." MannyGoldstein Mar 2015 #111

A private citizen=Hillary Clinton, not "any" private citizen. MADem Mar 2015 #112

You were scornful of a private citizen influencing the TPP MannyGoldstein Mar 2015 #113

"A" single, solitary private citizen--not a group invited to the table. That's context, Manny, MADem Mar 2015 #118

My reading comprehension scores havealways been pretty reasonable MannyGoldstein Mar 2015 #127

IMO, you need to dig in. I wrote what I meant, you did not discern the context because you didn't MADem Mar 2015 #128

Then we'll agree to disagree. nt MannyGoldstein Mar 2015 #129

Yeah, who would think that the Secretary of State Mnpaul Mar 2015 #78

War is Peace! woo me with science Mar 2015 #81

Thanks for posting that compilation. Bookmarking. JEB Mar 2015 #140

The Secretary of State is a gentleman named KERRY--he's had the job for awhile. Ya know? MADem Mar 2015 #88

Not as powerful as some people think! MannyGoldstein Mar 2015 #102

Because if their last name is Clinton, they're the same? MADem Mar 2015 #106

maybe you should leave reality denial land Mnpaul Mar 2015 #104

This message was self-deleted by its author MADem Mar 2015 #107

That article is over two years old. The thing is still being written. MADem Mar 2015 #115

'The article is two years old" Mnpaul Mar 2015 #121

She isn't "drafting" anything now (two years later)--she's not the SECSTATE. MADem Mar 2015 #123

I guess MADem took my advice Mnpaul Mar 2015 #116

Your disconnect is stronger--that article you're calling a "gotcha" is something everyone should MADem Mar 2015 #122

We were told the same thing by the last Clinton Mnpaul Mar 2015 #130

What does President Clinton have to do with SECSTATE Clinton? MADem Mar 2015 #131

"two for the price of one" ring a bell? Mnpaul Mar 2015 #134

Hillary didn't have her finger on the button when her husband was President. MADem Mar 2015 #137

Yeah, we know how Hillary boosted American businesses Mnpaul Mar 2015 #139

Gee, refresh my memory, now--who signed that act into law? Hmmm? MADem Mar 2015 #142

So Mrs. "lobbyists are people too" Mnpaul Mar 2015 #149

Sorry, the bulk of the work done on the TPP cali Mar 2015 #108

Yes, and the bulk of the work done on the film "The Butler" was done while she was in office, too. MADem Mar 2015 #109

that's absurd. You know there are many articles cali Mar 2015 #119

She's OUT OF THE GAME. She is not the SecState, she's not IN GOVERNMENT. MADem Mar 2015 #124

OOOH CAPS. ME PLAY TOO. SO NOTHING SHE EVER FUCKING DID WHILE cali Mar 2015 #146

If so, then the fact that she was Secretary of State is wholly irrelevant. n/t winter is coming Mar 2015 #172

LOL! She didn't fight for good wages in Haiti. OnyxCollie Mar 2015 #176

Her policies will cause mobility, all right: DOWNWARD mobility. woo me with science Mar 2015 #10

Center for Economic Policy Research: Hillary's TPP will cut wages of 90 percent of Americans woo me with science Mar 2015 #22

...spiraling down through a hail of bullets? L0oniX Mar 2015 #69

Yup, while being flat broke! woo me with science Mar 2015 #74

Missing the point. lumberjack_jeff Mar 2015 #12

But I suspect this will have many here unsatisfied ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2015 #13

My thread offended the ten percent who are upset with the one percent... DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #17

Sorry, no. HappyMe Mar 2015 #21

Question ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2015 #25

No. Wealthy people who are millions of dollars into debt aren't "dead broke". winter is coming Mar 2015 #40

+100 ND-Dem Mar 2015 #44

"both dumb and deeply offensive" woo me with science Mar 2015 #55

Thank you for piercing the veil of bullshit that gets drawn leveymg Mar 2015 #86

I call dead broke when you've just sold the last pint of plasma you are allowed this month.. Fumesucker Mar 2015 #41

+1000 OrwellwasRight Mar 2015 #138

Yep ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2015 #23

baloney ND-Dem Mar 2015 #45

Liverwurst DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #48

See? ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2015 #84

lol! the "we are just jealous of the 1%" shtick now, huh? PowerToThePeople Mar 2015 #133

"How about you just wiggle on back to freeperland where you came from." DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #152

a public apology for my crass comment. PowerToThePeople Mar 2015 #157

If you read my comments closely I wasn't referring to the poor...That's the opposite of my point... DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #160

imo, it is not income dependent. PowerToThePeople Mar 2015 #162

Shrug MFrohike Mar 2015 #32

I completely disagree ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2015 #39

Are you in favor then of doing away with Social Security? Fumesucker Mar 2015 #47

No ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2015 #71

Evidently you are actually in favor of bribing the middle class then Fumesucker Mar 2015 #110

You realize that Social Security ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2015 #114

Yes and I also realize we are rapidly getting back to that point too... Fumesucker Mar 2015 #117

That's why I support the program (and its expansion) ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2015 #120

Yes, but no MFrohike Mar 2015 #52

I agree. And if we REALLY want it to stick ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2015 #80

Whatever you like MFrohike Mar 2015 #87

I agree. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2015 #91

"it's a serious strategy to divide people" which is all our "leaders" seem to be capable ND-Dem Mar 2015 #46

+1,000! nt MADem Mar 2015 #125

I would love to peddle influence like her. Katashi_itto Mar 2015 #26

There has to be some way the banksters are going to make the money hifiguy Mar 2015 #31

Oh puleeze! Banksters and Wall Street cons ARE the new middle class. L0oniX Mar 2015 #68

Lipstick, meet shinola Android3.14 Mar 2015 #34

I can vouch that this is true MannyGoldstein Mar 2015 #36

You are on a roll, Manny! hifiguy Mar 2015 #37

I thought you eschewed associating with those of lower economic classes. DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #38

Cake or Death! nationalize the fed Mar 2015 #43

Cake *and* death! MannyGoldstein Mar 2015 #53

+100 ND-Dem Mar 2015 #51

We dined on coatimundi confit at the Karaku haberdashery "hats for hobos" fundraiser today! NYC_SKP Mar 2015 #63

Bwahahahahahah LMFAO L0oniX Mar 2015 #65

!!! MannyGoldstein Mar 2015 #73

... woo me with science Mar 2015 #77

... woo me with science Mar 2015 #79

I find it amusing to watch the 10% speak for the 90%... DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #82

Where do you get this 10% quackery from, I've have never even made median income? TheKentuckian Mar 2015 #164

So a person who is living a hand to mouth existence has time to sit at his or computer and wax... DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #165

Nobody has to be in the top 10% or anywhere close to have a fucking computer, internet, and a brain. TheKentuckian Mar 2015 #169

I would respond in kind but I don't want to get a hide and mar my stellar record. DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #170

Feel free to respond in kind, I didn't stutter. Nor did I personally attack you but your position. TheKentuckian Mar 2015 #173

The California authorities better not find out I'm part of the 10% or !% DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #174

It wasn't my argument but yours, invalidated by your own participation in the conversation TheKentuckian Mar 2015 #175

Jesus LittleBlue Mar 2015 #141

She's looking at schools, which is laudable Warpy Mar 2015 #54

If she were "serious" about education... Cosmic Kitten Mar 2015 #61

Free business school ...so everyone can be a sociopath bankster & Wall Street con artist. L0oniX Mar 2015 #64

Translation: Oh sh*t, those pests Warren and O'Malley LittleBlue Mar 2015 #76

She's been talking this way since leaving SoS. joshcryer Mar 2015 #85

The responses to this are typical. joshcryer Mar 2015 #83

My Dunhill wallet is simply twitching with anticipation! MannyGoldstein Mar 2015 #89

Yes, Wall Street should do great. joshcryer Mar 2015 #90

+1! MADem Mar 2015 #95

Has Hillary Clinton talked about breaking up the banks? /nt Marr Mar 2015 #161

She is a succesful woman =we must hate her. Old and In the Way Mar 2015 #92

All she is is a capitalist. joshcryer Mar 2015 #93

No doubt! MannyGoldstein Mar 2015 #94

LOL, +1 Marr Mar 2015 #168

You're damn tootin', OAITW. MADem Mar 2015 #99

Obviously a lot smarter people than me who employ rhetoric Old and In the Way Mar 2015 #101

Hillary is going to have to address the failure of the social safety net daredtowork Mar 2015 #98

None of them will tell the truth about SS Mnpaul Mar 2015 #136

This message was self-deleted by its author moondust Mar 2015 #132

Ted Cruz is, too. WillTwain Mar 2015 #135

I don't care what any politician says during a campaign. They can promise the moon during the liberal_at_heart Mar 2015 #143

ladders Ichingcarpenter Mar 2015 #144

funny she asks that question, as if she doesn't know the answer. KG Mar 2015 #147

Serious about campaign rhetoric concerning it, anyway. djean111 Mar 2015 #148

For some odd reason... 99Forever Mar 2015 #151

Not a fan of hers, generally Bettie Mar 2015 #154

Great job Hillary. Keep it going. nt. NCTraveler Mar 2015 #155

She's pro TPP, pro war, pro Wall Street. Words are free, and she's campaigning. Marr Mar 2015 #159

"social mobility" vs "Universal basic income." Trillo Mar 2015 #163

+ Democracy Octafish Mar 2015 #166

Look to Your Wall Street buddies for the most important answers, Madame Secretary. Orsino Mar 2015 #167

DU rec for pissing off all the right people... SidDithers Mar 2015 #171