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In reply to the discussion: Steve Wozniak: The Future of AI Is 'Scary and Very Bad for People' [View all]Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)83. There was a quote from one of the researchers in the last line of the piece..
"At some point in our evolution, we started to make decisions consciously, and we're not very good at it. We should learn to let our unconscious handle the complicated things," Dijksterhuis says.
My point is that consciousness may not be necessary for sentience, we seem to be smarter at least in some ways if our consciousness is not engaged but rather distracted by other issues.
If that turns out to be true for humans then perhaps consciousness is not all it's cracked up to be and also unnecessary for sentient machines, AI.
What is consciousness actually good for? Is consciousness merely a not particularly useful artifact of sentience?
Think of a baseball player who takes off toward where the ball is going almost immediately after the crack of the bat, it seems to me the player does not consciously calculate where the ball is going, rather it's a process that goes on extremely quickly (at least in our terms) below the conscious level.
So many things we do that if we let our conscious brain get involved it screws things up, I nearly had a bad motorcycle wreck once when I started thinking about what I actually did to steer the motorcycle rather than letting my unconscious reflexes do the job. I learned that day that a motorcycle or bicycle turns the opposite way from the way you push the handlebars but my unconscious reflexes had already "known" that for twenty years or so, I just wasn't aware of what my unconscious was doing.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Countersteering
Countersteering is used by single-track vehicle operators, such as cyclists and motorcyclists, to initiate a turn toward a given direction by momentarily steering counter to the desired direction ("steer left to turn right"
. To negotiate a turn successfully, the combined center of mass of the rider and the single-track vehicle must first be leaned in the direction of the turn, and steering briefly in the opposite direction causes that lean.
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Basically we go 'Star Trek' with basic income gaurantee or 'Soilent Green' with capitalism as it
kelly1mm
Mar 2015
#2
That's the real question. AI is a threat to human society as it is currently structured
Xithras
Mar 2015
#16
You may be refering to the Ferengi and their quest for Gold Pressed Latinum. Fun Fact: The
kelly1mm
Mar 2015
#135
'Star Trek' with basic income gaurantee or 'Soilent Green' with capitalism as it"
workinclasszero
Mar 2015
#94
It is, and many humans already function as organic robots in the system controlled by silicon, later
RKP5637
Mar 2015
#34
Yep, humans, an inferior byproduct of an extraterrestrial experiment to populate a spinning ball of
RKP5637
Mar 2015
#37
Yes, a significant EMP "if" data is unprotected. As someone else said, redundancy is key. Many
RKP5637
Mar 2015
#39
Quite true, core data would be intact, but peripheral access would be destroyed/limited.
RKP5637
Mar 2015
#65
Oh yes you are right. Just look at what happens in Florida when hurricane warnings go up
workinclasszero
Mar 2015
#108
I'm gonna start pronouncing it "pee-nee-yak" to sound like ENIAC and UNIVAC. nt
bananas
Mar 2015
#112
Why do you think this excerpt supports your point? Just curious, just wanted to see
ND-Dem
Mar 2015
#79
There was a quote from one of the researchers in the last line of the piece..
Fumesucker
Mar 2015
#83
That is an interesting point, about the general superiority of our unconscious minds.
bemildred
Mar 2015
#120
Well a lack of one would make something they'd have in common with sociopaths more specifically
JonLP24
Mar 2015
#78
Yep. Productivity growth is actually fairly low at the moment, yet people are talking about the
Chathamization
Mar 2015
#23
At some point AI will be more powerful than humans. No doubt about it. And robots will....
Logical
Mar 2015
#32
LOL, so unless you have 100% proof, you don't believe anything might happen......
Logical
Mar 2015
#138
How can you think it will not happen? It had advanced constantly! Like my question to.....
Logical
Mar 2015
#153
LOL, still no answer? Why ask me if I want to continue? If you want to quit just say so. Slowly.....
Logical
Mar 2015
#159
So you claim you do not think at some point AI will reach a point that it is like....
Logical
Mar 2015
#161
Who in the hell asks for proof of a technology prediction with no end date? I guess only you! You...
Logical
Mar 2015
#167
"At some point"...true, and at some point the sun will be gone. "In the long run we're all dead."N/T
Chathamization
Mar 2015
#45
We already use computers to design chips that we couldn't think of for ourselves.
Major Hogwash
Mar 2015
#51
I wouldn't be so sure, your smartphone is far more sophisticated than a Star Trek communicator
Fumesucker
Mar 2015
#27
How do we know you are not an Artificial Intelligence messing with us??? Hmmmmm???
hunter
Mar 2015
#68
Great. No fucking flying car but we skip right to slave to evil computers.
Hassin Bin Sober
Mar 2015
#21
AeroMobil has working prototypes and says they'll have one on the market by 2017, actually
Electric Monk
Mar 2015
#42
The project is mostly complete at this point. Welcome to the Cybernetic Civilization.
GliderGuider
Mar 2015
#31
I'm not sure I'll see a true AI in my lifetime but my kids more than likely will..
Fumesucker
Mar 2015
#64
We're still struggling with modeling the 302 neurons of C Elegans. We're not going to get to the
Chathamization
Mar 2015
#70
Part of the reason why these predictions are so silly is because we don't even understand the brain
Chathamization
Mar 2015
#111
Or even the flexibility of a mouse, something still far beyond our grasp
Chathamization
Mar 2015
#122
One of the reasons I stay on DU, it's fairly low bandwidth and my connection isn't always quick
Fumesucker
Mar 2015
#99
Climate change is scarier, it's happening now, and it's worse for people than AI
Auggie
Mar 2015
#129