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In reply to the discussion: Georgia Governor Approves Ban On Abortions After 20 Weeks With No Exception For Rape Or Incest [View all]uppityperson
(116,009 posts)"oddly some on this thread have contested that statement, with the notion that a 39 week fetus has no human rights"
Who here has said that? Some of us contend that the live woman's rights trump that of a fetus, not that they have "no human rights".
"Now back to my original post, about demagoguing the issue (i.e. saying somebody's opinion is 'BS'). That is an all or nothing approach. You might just find that such an inflexible approach will put us back in the 'nothing' column. "
Since you have called somebody's opinion 'BS', that puts you right into the category you claim to abhor.
"As far as how well a 23 week baby survives...it has nothing to do with the discussion. The fact that some premature babies, born at 23 weeks have severe problems has absolutely nothing to do with whether or not they should be considered human at that point."
Yes. It does. Since this discussion involves when a fetus is able to survive outside a uterus, it does have plenty to do with the discussion.
Define "human". Is it something alive with human dna? It is something able to survive on its own? What is "life"? What is "human"? These terms may seem obvious but they are often different to different people and assuming everyone agrees on their definition leads to misunderstandings.