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babylonsister

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37. Oooh, goody!

Tue Mar 24, 2015, 10:33 PM

Mar 2015

And hi!

What have Dems tried to sell people on that are now believed that weren't initially?

As for rethugs, they know it's b.s., period. Follow the money.

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