Georgia Governor Approves Ban On Abortions After 20 Weeks With No Exception For Rape Or Incest

[lacrew]

87. Since you have called somebody's opinion 'BS'

No. I. Havent.

"As far as how well a 23 week baby survives...it has nothing to do with the discussion. The fact that some premature babies, born at 23 weeks have severe problems has absolutely nothing to do with whether or not they should be considered human at that point"

I don't know how I can explain this any further. This is not a discussion about the ethics of attempting to revive a premie...it is a discussion about limiting abortion to 20 weeks in GA. I brought up the case of surviving premies to demonstrate the humanness of a fetus at this age.

"Since this discussion involves when a fetus is able to survive outside a uterus"....if I were to hop in my car a drive to the hospital today, I would undoubtedly find people in instensive care, completely dependent on a man made machine to survive. And, I would still consider these people to be very human. Some people in this world have only survived by virtue of the implantation of another person's vital organ....and they are still human. So I am most definitely not going to limit my discussion to when a fetus can survive outside the uterus - some 40 week babies can't survive outside the uterus without human intervention. Its a completely irrelevant argument.

Definition of alive? Many are leaning towards the presence of brain activity (because the lack of it is being used as a condition for removing people from life support). And a 20 week fetus certainly has that. As stated before, using th ability to survive on its own as a litmus test does not pass muster. Using such logic, we would not attempt to revive people who have suffered severe trauma....or even use antibiotics to clear up an infection. But, even if I were to accept that litmus test, a limit of 20 weeks would fit into that quite well. The 50% survival rate breakover point is 24 weeks. Erring on the side of caution, 20 weeks does not seem absurd.