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In reply to the discussion: Liberalism in Europe 'facing its biggest fight' against the far-right and 'the politics of fear' [View all]pampango
(24,692 posts)15. That certainly proves that nazis din't believe in the 'free market'. Nationalism and militarism
are, as you say, more their things.
Hitler faced the choice between conflicting recommendations. On one side a "free market" technocratic faction within the government, centered around Reichsbank President Hjalmar Schacht, Minister of Economics Walther Funk and Price Commissioner Dr. Carl Friedrich Goerdeler calling for decreased military spending, free trade, and a moderation in state intervention in the economy. This faction was supported by some of Germany's leading business executives, most notably Hermann Duecher of AEG, Robert Bosch of Robert Bosch GmbH, and Albert Voegeler of Vereinigte Stahlwerke AG. On the other side the more politicized faction favored autarkic policies and sustained military spending. Characteristically, Hitler hesitated before siding with the latter ...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Nazi_Germany#Pre-war_economy:_1933.E2.80.931939
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Nazi_Germany#Pre-war_economy:_1933.E2.80.931939
You are right. Hitler eventually came down on the side that opposed the 'free market', decreases in military spending, free trade and a decline in state intervention in the economy.
He very much did come down on the side of a state-controlled economy and 'autarky' (opposing international trade and striving for economic self-sufficiency).
Most modern conservatives in the US and Europe could not fairly be described as proponents of Hitler's wild economic beliefs. The 'technocratic faction' the advice from which Hitler eventually rejected was more similar to modern conservatives - "'free market', decreased military spending, free trade, and a moderation in state intervention in the economy".
In some respects the disagreement between Germany's 'technocrats' and its 'more politicized faction' resembles that between the republican establishment and the tea party wing of their party. And resembles the different philosophy of 'center-right' conservatives in Europe and the far-right like the French National Front and UKIP in the UK.
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Liberalism in Europe 'facing its biggest fight' against the far-right and 'the politics of fear' [View all]
pampango
Mar 2015
OP
I suppose the collective memory of the evil of fascism is dying with that generation passing away.
pampango
Mar 2015
#2
The liberals are "misguided" but not the far-right? The latter simply reflects "reasonable fear"?
pampango
Mar 2015
#7
OK, I'm trying to find your Tower Hamlets segregated swimming pool story
muriel_volestrangler
Mar 2015
#21
And that is what we need to address. These things are fearful but FDRs words ring even truer today
jwirr
Mar 2015
#26
Most liberals in Europe do believe in markets though they have tempered that with strong safety
pampango
Mar 2015
#8
"I don't think you will find that any European liberals are pro-union." Really?
pampango
Mar 2015
#13
Mercantilism is not 'competition among nations'. It is economic policy to benefit one country over
pampango
Mar 2015
#19
That certainly proves that nazis din't believe in the 'free market'. Nationalism and militarism
pampango
Mar 2015
#15
Yes, as I said, they are not socialists, and neither is the US Democratic party
muriel_volestrangler
Mar 2015
#29
The EU exists only to further neoliberalism and capital run amok so I hope it busts.
TheKentuckian
Mar 2015
#12
Let's hope that the income equality and overall prosperity in Europe does not go bust
pampango
Mar 2015
#16
The whole agenda of the EU is to undo income equality, strip away those protections,
TheKentuckian
Mar 2015
#22
If that were true, Europe would not have the world's best income equality and would have lost
pampango
Mar 2015
#25
No, I meant what I said not what you want to jump off on. Why do you just put words in people's
TheKentuckian
Mar 2015
#27