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rhett o rick

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109. One of the failures in 2000 of the Democratic Party Machine

Thu Mar 26, 2015, 08:51 AM

Mar 2015

is that they thought they could run Gore who, right or wrong, looked like 8 more years of Clinton. The voting public wanted change and when faced with Gore v Bush some decided to take a chance with Bush while others stayed home. When Gore lost some decided that they needed a scapegoat because apparently they couldn't face the fact that we have a voting system so corrupt that The Powers That Be can manipulate a presidential election. We are looking at a similar situation with the people demanding change and the Democratic Power Machine is looking to run DLC Clinton. Now it makes perfect sense to me for the Democratic Power Machine to run Clinton but not that grassroots voters wouldn't recognize that it could well be a repeat of 2000. Maybe Nader will put his name in and give them a scapegoat again.

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This is what happens when progressives stay home on election day and claim both parties are the same [View all] Cali_Democrat Mar 2015 OP

The Dem Party isn't infested with religious fanatics. That's enough for me to distinguish the two. nomorenomore08 Mar 2015 #1

We're just better at hiding the religious extremists who are here. blkmusclmachine Mar 2015 #70

Sure there are some (like fervently anti-choice Catholics). But they're not the base of the Party. nomorenomore08 Mar 2015 #97

Progressives did not sit home. WorseBeforeBetter Mar 2015 #2

They stayed home and made waffles...nt SidDithers Mar 2015 #5

Yeah, I have no idea who you are referring to. (n/t) WorseBeforeBetter Mar 2015 #8

yup JI7 Mar 2015 #13

Who did you vote for in 2014? morningfog Mar 2015 #51

Who was running for office in Canada at that time? Rex Mar 2015 #60

You are too generous in calling him an "expert in American politics." morningfog Mar 2015 #62

As are replies in this vein sharp_stick Mar 2015 #78

+1000 eom BlueCaliDem Mar 2015 #176

And bragged about it. Bobbie Jo Mar 2015 #86

I'm out of the loop... cyberswede Mar 2015 #138

Yep Bobbie Jo Mar 2015 #139

Was it a single person, or a bunch of people? cyberswede Mar 2015 #140

I suppose "they" Bobbie Jo Mar 2015 #141

This was the thread... SidDithers Mar 2015 #144

And *continues* to be proud of it, promising to do it again in 2016. BlueCaliDem Mar 2015 #177

The Waffle Abides Katashi_itto Mar 2015 #162

Big ole "yup"... Agschmid Mar 2015 #164

I have 5 friends who I classify as liberal democrats. Not a single one voted in the last election. LiberalArkie Mar 2015 #35

Me too, Liberal Arkie.. mountain grammy Mar 2015 #80

My experience is the exact opposite. EVERY "liberal democrat" in my circle... WorseBeforeBetter Mar 2015 #171

They like to return to spew this lie time after time LondonReign2 Mar 2015 #110

Truth matters little to that crowd. bvar22 Mar 2015 #161

Ah, thanks for that info. WorseBeforeBetter Mar 2015 #172

Exactly... joeybee12 Mar 2015 #135

Rex nailed it in #75. Any time some shit Sensible Centrist policy... WorseBeforeBetter Mar 2015 #173

oh look another hippie punching op. Warren Stupidity Mar 2015 #3

Attacking progressives will inspire them to vote next time. L0oniX Mar 2015 #4

Jesus, did you see some of the youth bashing posts after the election? F4lconF16 Mar 2015 #14

Bingo. Thanks. 840high Mar 2015 #72

I am a youth bashing youth. iandhr Mar 2015 #85

+1 L0oniX Mar 2015 #123

Yeah. Go figure RufusTFirefly Mar 2015 #32

works every time madokie Mar 2015 #48

You miss the NJ Senator Martinez threads yeoman6987 Mar 2015 #180

DU rec...nt SidDithers Mar 2015 #6

Since not even one of the loser dems ran on this betterdemsonly Mar 2015 #7

+1000 F4lconF16 Mar 2015 #10

In 2009-2010 the GOP was able to block everything with only 40 Senators, how was that any better? Doctor_J Mar 2015 #16

^^^^^^^That right there^^^^^^^^^^ BrotherIvan Mar 2015 #69

Right you are! MissDeeds Mar 2015 #71

That word "everything"... it doesn't mean what you think it means. stevenleser Mar 2015 #87

They blocked Obamacare?? Major Hogwash Mar 2015 #93

They blocked healthcare and stuck us with Gingrichcare Doctor_J Mar 2015 #102

Hahahaha!!!!!!!!!!! Major Hogwash Mar 2015 #170

Lol! You would have more credibility if you didn't pull 'facts' out of your arse. n/t demmiblue Mar 2015 #9

^^^this^^^ L0oniX Mar 2015 #124

... Fumesucker Mar 2015 #11

LOL! So perfect. nt laundry_queen Mar 2015 #43

bullshit. NRaleighLiberal Mar 2015 #12

Why are some of these divisive, shit-stirring OP's allowed to stand, while others Doctor_J Mar 2015 #15

It appears to me that those that hate liberals and progressives have more power here rhett o rick Mar 2015 #19

LOL ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2015 #61

Why, did you spill your Third Way Kool Aid? U4ikLefty Mar 2015 #96

No, it was Liberal hating 3rd way punch. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2015 #106

Oh boy! You want some cheese with your whine? leftofcool Mar 2015 #101

because OPs complaining about the people doing this are seen as "equal time" MisterP Mar 2015 #77

What is the goal of this OP? This same post or something similar has been posted on a regular rhett o rick Mar 2015 #17

I think it's the usual bullying by the DINOs. Even though their approach to governing has been a Doctor_J Mar 2015 #20

Serious question. Who are these people, I mean what do they believe in, that find it rhett o rick Mar 2015 #27

Who are these people? Third Wayers LondonReign2 Mar 2015 #111

The goal is to stir shit and piss off everyone except oligarchy shills? Just guessing. L0oniX Mar 2015 #168

Yea! Beat up on liberals! That'll get them to do what you want!! jeff47 Mar 2015 #18

LOL. "Let's nominate a DLC candidate and then complain when the liberals don't like it." rhett o rick Mar 2015 #22

Don't think they have forgotten Nader. I had to set one of them straight A Simple Game Mar 2015 #47

Blaming Nader is illogical. What did he do but legally run for office? A lot of illegal things rhett o rick Mar 2015 #95

I asked this last one why he picked on Nader when there were 7 other A Simple Game Mar 2015 #100

One of the failures in 2000 of the Democratic Party Machine rhett o rick Mar 2015 #109

I have no doubts that it will be the same if Clinton is the nominee. A Simple Game Mar 2015 #112

Be careful here, talk like that will bring the wrath. rhett o rick Mar 2015 #120

Screw the wrath, it's the internet, I'm not foolish enough to let it bother me. n/t A Simple Game Mar 2015 #122

they beat themselves up treestar Mar 2015 #163

It's not the liberals "playing victim". jeff47 Mar 2015 #165

Those aren't Liberals, and I don't care how loudly they scream on DU that they are. BlueCaliDem Mar 2015 #178

How do you explain the fact that the more progressive States had higher turnouts in 2014? Bluenorthwest Mar 2015 #21

What I want to know is, if this OP author isn't a progressive, what is she? rhett o rick Mar 2015 #24

Hey now! Don't let reality get in the way of a good liberal beating! (nt) jeff47 Mar 2015 #25

The OP is full of shit stirring. Nothing more, nothing less. morningfog Mar 2015 #52

The non-progressives really don't like to discuss actual issues, rhett o rick Mar 2015 #128

Don't expect honest answers from the OP. This is a hit and run piece. L0oniX Mar 2015 #169

Obama attributed midterm losses to AAs, Latinos, young'uns and unmarried women. SMC22307 Mar 2015 #23

Well, I'm old and white and I voted straight (D) as I have since 1978 Doctor_J Mar 2015 #30

Same here, only 1980 for me. SMC22307 Mar 2015 #34

"What do you know that he doesn't? " Phlem Mar 2015 #50

Well then. What that tells you is that Erich Bloodaxe BSN Mar 2015 #103

I stayed home. LWolf Mar 2015 #26

Here is what I saw this last election day. Hundreds of people showed up to rhett o rick Mar 2015 #28

+10000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 Phlem Mar 2015 #54

so you "woo hoo" a thread explaining why it's better to have the REP put into office? Sheepshank Mar 2015 #116

so it was better to put a REP in office? Sheepshank Mar 2015 #115

If you have an argument, why not spite it out in lieu of these rhett o rick Mar 2015 #119

bull fucking shit...I was clearly answering your post Sheepshank Mar 2015 #121

You left out an important part of my post. No Republicon was put into office. rhett o rick Mar 2015 #126

*I* noted the important part of your post...you divert attention from it Sheepshank Mar 2015 #134

My post was very clear, but you said " so it was better to put a REP in office?" rhett o rick Mar 2015 #137

What you assert was not stated. You distorted and then just ran with it. TheKentuckian Mar 2015 #153

I agree with Cali's post guillaumeb Mar 2015 #29

Just 36.3 percent of registered Illinoisians voted last November (including me!) greatauntoftriplets Mar 2015 #31

This OP is what happens when people make things up MannyGoldstein Mar 2015 #33

but not enough people who are natural left voters actually vote guillaumeb Mar 2015 #37

I think that's a different issue than the OP MannyGoldstein Mar 2015 #55

Both sides don't have to be identical to turn off voters. winter is coming Mar 2015 #66

true guillaumeb Mar 2015 #157

Heh. See #4 progressoid Mar 2015 #40

Juror #4 is my kinda DUer. (n/t) SMC22307 Mar 2015 #44

This place has become DemocraticThunderdome lately. nt MannyGoldstein Mar 2015 #57

This is what happens 20 minutes after the TPP is posted in GD. Rex Mar 2015 #75

Let's try to turn that around a little, shall we? MannyGoldstein Mar 2015 #89

this is what happens PowerToThePeople Mar 2015 #36

You and the recently booted AverageJoe90 are of like minds. SMC22307 Mar 2015 #38

random acts of hippie punching Enrique Mar 2015 #39

yep. The voters fault. Phlem Mar 2015 #53

Random acts of hippie punching that are contrary to actual facts no less LondonReign2 Mar 2015 #113

K & R Cryptoad Mar 2015 #41

of course it's the voters fault. Phlem Mar 2015 #42

Yep. This is exactly what happens. Wanna keep the jerks out? calimary Mar 2015 #45

Words can't express Jamaal510 Mar 2015 #46

Good post! And here's something else to "vote for"... Beartracks Mar 2015 #59

Thanks, Jamaal. freshwest Mar 2015 #90

Since I don't live in a parliamentary country, I don't vote for 'party'. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Mar 2015 #104

Yes, elections have consequences. Agnosticsherbet Mar 2015 #49

No. this is what happens when Democrats provide no leadership Android3.14 Mar 2015 #56

Warren had no plan? Fuck that!! Sheepshank Mar 2015 #117

Intentional misunderstanding? You tell me. Android3.14 Mar 2015 #125

LOL! The 80s called and wants it's meme back! Rex Mar 2015 #58

Cali_Democrat reiterates Horse shit. You whine about liberal non-voters but you offer no facts! Ford_Prefect Mar 2015 #63

I actually I think they know all this--so, besides keeping their mitts on the reins against a rival MisterP Mar 2015 #83

I think, for clarity/accuracy ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2015 #64

Agreed. The GOP is in permanent election mode, see the MSM. They write the narratives for the L&R. freshwest Mar 2015 #91

Yep ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2015 #107

Blaming progressives for the failures of the Democratic party is ludacris & explains think Mar 2015 #65

Meanwhile, back at the ranch Mnpaul Mar 2015 #67

Exactly. The fish rots from the head /nt think Mar 2015 #74

Careful Mnpaul Mar 2015 #81

I call bullshit. 99Forever Mar 2015 #68

BS 840high Mar 2015 #73

Yep. The Democratic circular firing squad MaggieD Mar 2015 #76

any proof that the progressives lost '14 and not the absence of any actual campaign? MisterP Mar 2015 #79

just like the Republicans Mnpaul Mar 2015 #82

Brecht has a poem for that MisterP Mar 2015 #84

Dropped a steaming pile and split huh OP? tkmorris Mar 2015 #88

Nailed it Android3.14 Mar 2015 #133

Recently I renewed my prescription for Fukitol™ for a 2 year supply. Major Hogwash Mar 2015 #92

Umm... am I the only that sees your "this is what happens" as a hypothetical instead of you saying Number23 Mar 2015 #94

And, they're still defending it on DU.. mustn't upset their sensibilities by pointing out the Cha Mar 2015 #98

Avail yourself of some facts before posting. DisgustipatedinCA Mar 2015 #150

You "avail yourself of some facts". Cha Mar 2015 #166

the people I know that stayed home were middle of the roaders. hobbit709 Mar 2015 #99

Who says progressives stayed home? Scuba Mar 2015 #105

I've posted this story about the 2010 exit poll many times and it showed neverforget Mar 2015 #131

Yeah, but those are facts and the whole destroy the premise of the OP. Scuba Mar 2015 #132

Thanks, I'm going add this to the list of facts I have in post 110 LondonReign2 Mar 2015 #136

like how "spoilers" didn't lose us '68, '80, or '00 MisterP Mar 2015 #143

Only fools would claim both parties are the same. NCTraveler Mar 2015 #108

I'm so fucking sick of hearing "they're the same" bull shit Sheepshank Mar 2015 #114

good luck G_j Mar 2015 #145

would be great if it weren't true. Sheepshank Mar 2015 #146

I'm sure someone might say that occasionally G_j Mar 2015 #147

has anyone stated numbers? Sheepshank Mar 2015 #152

I don't think that is possible G_j Mar 2015 #154

ahh I see subtelty isn't in your vocab. Sheepshank Mar 2015 #155

"they're the same" G_j Mar 2015 #156

Thought it would be nice for you to see some of those 'nebulous' posts Sheepshank Mar 2015 #174

Both of your examples are comments G_j Mar 2015 #182

another non-nebulous post Sheepshank Mar 2015 #181

It is the OP that is a "big fat whopping lie". LondonReign2 Mar 2015 #149

crickets G_j Mar 2015 #158

it's hard to dispute these facts but the hippie punching will neverforget Mar 2015 #159

A fine whine that doesn't get better with age............ marmar Mar 2015 #118

sometimes we have to sweep our dirt floor olddots Mar 2015 #127

No, this is what happens as a result of dogmatically pushing a decades long agenda supposedly TheKentuckian Mar 2015 #129

From your OP it seems you are not a progressive so I am curious as to rhett o rick Mar 2015 #130

is there some kind of evidence G_j Mar 2015 #142

I don't take correction from those far to the right of me. DisgustipatedinCA Mar 2015 #148

Elections has consequences, a good senator needs other congressional members to Thinkingabout Mar 2015 #151

I Call Them Republican Enablers, They Are Enabling Republican Victories... Corey_Baker08 Mar 2015 #160

What a load MFrohike Mar 2015 #167

C'mon people. Cut off the bark and the tree will die. Capt. Obvious Mar 2015 #175

Those weren't "progressives". They're Liberal Regressives, because that's exactly what happens BlueCaliDem Mar 2015 #179