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In reply to the discussion: Kamikaze Co-Pilot Accused of Mass Murder [View all]pampango
(24,692 posts)15. Interesting information at the LA Times:
German airline crash: How do you get through a locked cockpit door?
There are multiple procedures that relate to cockpit doors (lock mechanisms on the Airbus A320 shown above) and pilots leaving the cockpit during flight. Among the most relevant:
Blocking the cockpit door with a food cart would be easy for a determined person to overcome.
If the crew outside the cockpit could enter a keypad code to unlock the door why didn't they or did they do that and the door was blocked in some other way? Also, being able to gain access to the cockpit by entering a keypad code does not seem very secure if you are concerned with terrorists gaining access to the cockpit.
There are multiple procedures that relate to cockpit doors (lock mechanisms on the Airbus A320 shown above) and pilots leaving the cockpit during flight. Among the most relevant:
> When a pilot leaves the cockpit, a flight attendant typically uses a food cart to block access to the cockpit when the pilot opens the door to leave. A flight attendant is supposed to remain in the cockpit and open the door for the pilot upon his or her return.
> If the cockpit door is not opened from the inside by a member of the flight crew, according to a manual for the Airbus A320 available online, the door can also be unlocked by the cabin crew outside the cockpit by entering a pre-programmed two- to seven-digit code on a keypad.
-- Matt Pearce
http://www.latimes.com/world/europe/la-fg-europe-germanwings-plane-crash-updates-20150326-htmlstory.html
Blocking the cockpit door with a food cart would be easy for a determined person to overcome.
If the crew outside the cockpit could enter a keypad code to unlock the door why didn't they or did they do that and the door was blocked in some other way? Also, being able to gain access to the cockpit by entering a keypad code does not seem very secure if you are concerned with terrorists gaining access to the cockpit.
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The job the 3rd person did is no longer required on modern passenger jets...
A HERETIC I AM
Mar 2015
#2
If a pilot or co-pilot is absolutely determined to crash the plane, no extra person ....
A HERETIC I AM
Mar 2015
#19
GOOD! But that has nothing to do with this argument or the current state of affairs.
A HERETIC I AM
Mar 2015
#29
I was wondering what type of cabin lock is on such a plane. (I've always flown 747's to Australia)
BlueJazz
Mar 2015
#45
I am not a commercial pilot, just an enthusiast of aircraft and a bit of a student...
A HERETIC I AM
Mar 2015
#54
Ah..yes...how right you are. I guess the only way (right now) to prevent such scenarios is to...
BlueJazz
Mar 2015
#56
How about just blaming the asshole who was too much of a coward to use a gun or knife or jump
CBGLuthier
Mar 2015
#3
US flights require a flight attendant to be in cabin if one of the pilots leave
dixiegrrrrl
Mar 2015
#43
I'm no pilot, but as an experienced passenger, I feel the beginning of descent usually before
alcibiades_mystery
Mar 2015
#33
someone who had taken that flight before might have wondered pretty quickly about the descent
onenote
Mar 2015
#39
They would have known the second the pilot was yelling and pounding at the door.
former9thward
Mar 2015
#42
Thanks. That's makes sense in a terrorist scenario. Terrible that it led to this. n/t
pampango
Mar 2015
#28
I thought that but reading more, he had to do a bunch of stuff to make this happen
uppityperson
Mar 2015
#72