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40. Not every person who uses a wheelchair

Thu Mar 26, 2015, 11:34 PM

Mar 2015

can use a "stair chair thingie." They only work for people who can transfer into and out of one.

Beside which, public schools are supposed to be accessible. Others on this thread have cited the Americans with Disabilities Act, which was passed a quarter century ago. Actually, I think the law that would apply here would be the Individuals with Disabilities Education Act, (IDEA) which was passed in 1975. Schools have had forty fucking years to get with the program.

This is so disheartening. How many more decades or centuries will it take before we agree that the possibility of shitting or pissing on themselves isn't something kids with disabilities have to worry about, just because they want to go to school like everybody else?

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Teachers Fight Special Needs Accommodation [View all] KamaAina Mar 2015 OP

Oh for crying out loud! leftofcool Mar 2015 #1

According to the article... blogslut Mar 2015 #2

Do u know how much an elevator costs? Chuuku Davis Mar 2015 #21

Not every person who uses a wheelchair thucythucy Mar 2015 #40

Do you know how much shutting out disabled students costs our society? blogslut Mar 2015 #50

I know that, at least in my state, LWolf Mar 2015 #59

This may be a union issue. Union agreements for teachers have things like employee restrooms Wella Mar 2015 #3

Agree. femmocrat Mar 2015 #4

25 years this July. KamaAina Mar 2015 #5

My mom was there at the signing by Poppy... It is Tuesday Mar 2015 #17

Awesome! KamaAina Mar 2015 #28

Thanks for the link to the legacy project. thucythucy Mar 2015 #48

Yes! I saw you in the school bathroom thread. KamaAina Mar 2015 #69

And I've seen your posts thucythucy Mar 2015 #72

Awesome! KamaAina Mar 2015 #73

I am surprised they've not addressed it--and have gotten away with it. Wella Mar 2015 #9

And the Individuals with Disabilities Education Act (IDEA) thucythucy Mar 2015 #41

The worst of this is that you have to file lawsuits to get people to follow the damned law. Wella Mar 2015 #53

Exactly. madfloridian Mar 2015 #12

It's a legal issue. madfloridian Mar 2015 #11

I know. But the anti-teacher rhetoric is not uncommon, even among Democrats Wella Mar 2015 #75

In fact it was enabled by our own party's leaders. madfloridian Mar 2015 #81

Follow the (private charter) money... Wella Mar 2015 #85

It's also a child safety issue. Xithras Mar 2015 #74

There is a lot of stupid involved in this mythology Mar 2015 #6

Selfish assholes meow2u3 Mar 2015 #7

So to speak. KamaAina Mar 2015 #8

This "selfish asshole" thinks deeper issues may be involved. madfloridian Mar 2015 #10

Are you one of those teachers? It is always interesting to find DUers with personal connections to uppityperson Mar 2015 #13

No, but I believe they know the deeper legal issues involved. So I agree... madfloridian Mar 2015 #14

If they protested in order for the lack of accessibility Jon82 Mar 2015 #39

Um, why should a disabled student get caught up in these "deeper issues"? KamaAina Mar 2015 #25

The question has already been answered.... madfloridian Mar 2015 #35

If the ADA rules have been ignored thucythucy Mar 2015 #42

Okay. madfloridian Mar 2015 #43

of course, all students will have a bathroom on the first floor if the teachers win this fight CreekDog Mar 2015 #34

The fist issue is protecting the student and teachers from possible abuse accusations. greatlaurel Mar 2015 #15

.......... madfloridian Mar 2015 #16

Thank you! greatlaurel Mar 2015 #19

Huh? KamaAina Mar 2015 #26

An unaccompanied adult cannot go into a restroom when a child is in the restroom alone. greatlaurel Mar 2015 #33

But the disabled student would only be in there between periods. KamaAina Mar 2015 #36

When do you think the teachers are going to be in there? XemaSab Mar 2015 #51

Thank you! greatlaurel Mar 2015 #54

Worse, the admin recently took out the bathroom that such students could use Yo_Mama Mar 2015 #45

A grievance like this is not "the only way the teachers have to address this problem." thucythucy Mar 2015 #49

Hey, you need to read up on what Arne Duncan and Obama are doing to special ed students. madfloridian Mar 2015 #56

I'd be happy to do so. thucythucy Mar 2015 #71

Here are some links, with other links in the post. madfloridian Mar 2015 #86

Thanks for these. thucythucy Mar 2015 #87

The teachers are doing the right thing. The school needs to build an accessible student bathroom, LeftyMom Mar 2015 #18

All well and good... but UNTIL that bathroom is built? Let the damn kid use the one restroom they cherokeeprogressive Mar 2015 #20

That may well be part of the agreement with the teachers. But the school has to agree to build one. LeftyMom Mar 2015 #22

Spiteful no. Selfish? Yes. n/t cherokeeprogressive Mar 2015 #23

I love when rich people call underpaid, overworked teachers selfish. LeftyMom Mar 2015 #24

cherokeeprogressive is rich?! KamaAina Mar 2015 #27

If you don't want people to know you're entitled you shouldn't post pics of your tacky gated spread. LeftyMom Mar 2015 #30

My "spread" has ZERO gates. My NEIGHBORHOOD has zero gates. cherokeeprogressive Mar 2015 #38

Thanks for this post. NCTraveler Mar 2015 #62

Snowing? KamaAina Mar 2015 #67

LOL I actually like the snow. cherokeeprogressive Mar 2015 #77

Well, it is an odd-numbered year, so I'm not expecting too much KamaAina Mar 2015 #78

They always do. cherokeeprogressive Mar 2015 #79

Hey, at least you're not in San Jose KamaAina Mar 2015 #80

No slack huh. Ever. I see how you are. n/t cherokeeprogressive Mar 2015 #82

They aren't very good at bragging if thats what they are doing. NCTraveler Mar 2015 #61

I was a Voc Ed/ROP teacher for ten years thank you. I'll call selfish people selfish all day long. cherokeeprogressive Mar 2015 #29

The teachers have to file the grievance to force the construction of the accessible bathroom. LeftyMom Mar 2015 #37

The school is then in violation of the IDEA, probably the ADA thucythucy Mar 2015 #46

Well, they HAD a student bathroom on that floor that they took out. Yo_Mama Mar 2015 #47

/facepalm deathrind Mar 2015 #31

Actually, teacher unions are under attack KamaAina Mar 2015 #32

You are right, unfortunately. deathrind Mar 2015 #83

The attack takes many forms. LiberalAndProud Mar 2015 #52

Yes. nt LWolf Mar 2015 #60

You are correct. deathrind Mar 2015 #84

a conflict between two progressive principles - it does happen sometimes - no sense denying that it Douglas Carpenter Mar 2015 #44

There is no conflict. The school is refusing to accomodate the student and blaming the teachers. greatlaurel Mar 2015 #55

Agree with you completely. n/t kiranon Mar 2015 #70

One question here: why is there no other accessible toilet in the school? LeftishBrit Mar 2015 #57

Sometimes being from Alabama is awesome Telcontar Mar 2015 #58

One hopes Texas will follow suit KamaAina Mar 2015 #68

How on earth could you have a publc building without a public restroom on the first (entry level) dsc Mar 2015 #63

Turns out the spec ed classroom had a student restroom that was removed recently. greatlaurel Mar 2015 #64

There is a bigger ADA issue here and the school district is throwing the teachers under the bus gollygee Mar 2015 #65

Maybe you should look a little more closely at this issue. NaturalHigh Mar 2015 #66

This: LWolf Mar 2015 #76