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NCTraveler

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Reply to cherokeeprogressive (Reply #38)

Fri Mar 27, 2015, 08:16 AM

Mar 2015

I absolutely love our garbage men and women. I have lived very close to the same are my whole life and our trash personnel have always been great. Always. Such a difficult job. We keep piling the shit up on the side of the street and it keep disappearing. They also give me recognition every single time I am outside when they come.

Question about the job. Since I was a young child my parents had me stand out at the street on the last garbage day before Christmas to give the garbage persons gifts. They normally gave me a couple of 10's to hand to them. As I got older I continued the tradition. It is not really about the money but more about recognizing that they are appreciated. More recently I have started giving gift cards. Do garbage persons respect that? Is their something I am missing from their end that would make that practice disrespectful? In our area most of them make what I would call middle class income. Right on the edge of it anyway. Do they make of like bandits around Christmas? I wouldn't stop doing it if you told me they did. Everyone could use a little cushion around Christmas.

We have used that same day to leave our mailperson a gift also. Many jobs are just relentless and often unappreciated.

Congratulations on your home by the way. Very exciting I'm sure.

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Teachers Fight Special Needs Accommodation [View all] KamaAina Mar 2015 OP

Oh for crying out loud! leftofcool Mar 2015 #1

According to the article... blogslut Mar 2015 #2

Do u know how much an elevator costs? Chuuku Davis Mar 2015 #21

Not every person who uses a wheelchair thucythucy Mar 2015 #40

Do you know how much shutting out disabled students costs our society? blogslut Mar 2015 #50

I know that, at least in my state, LWolf Mar 2015 #59

This may be a union issue. Union agreements for teachers have things like employee restrooms Wella Mar 2015 #3

Agree. femmocrat Mar 2015 #4

25 years this July. KamaAina Mar 2015 #5

My mom was there at the signing by Poppy... It is Tuesday Mar 2015 #17

Awesome! KamaAina Mar 2015 #28

Thanks for the link to the legacy project. thucythucy Mar 2015 #48

Yes! I saw you in the school bathroom thread. KamaAina Mar 2015 #69

And I've seen your posts thucythucy Mar 2015 #72

Awesome! KamaAina Mar 2015 #73

I am surprised they've not addressed it--and have gotten away with it. Wella Mar 2015 #9

And the Individuals with Disabilities Education Act (IDEA) thucythucy Mar 2015 #41

The worst of this is that you have to file lawsuits to get people to follow the damned law. Wella Mar 2015 #53

Exactly. madfloridian Mar 2015 #12

It's a legal issue. madfloridian Mar 2015 #11

I know. But the anti-teacher rhetoric is not uncommon, even among Democrats Wella Mar 2015 #75

In fact it was enabled by our own party's leaders. madfloridian Mar 2015 #81

Follow the (private charter) money... Wella Mar 2015 #85

It's also a child safety issue. Xithras Mar 2015 #74

There is a lot of stupid involved in this mythology Mar 2015 #6

Selfish assholes meow2u3 Mar 2015 #7

So to speak. KamaAina Mar 2015 #8

This "selfish asshole" thinks deeper issues may be involved. madfloridian Mar 2015 #10

Are you one of those teachers? It is always interesting to find DUers with personal connections to uppityperson Mar 2015 #13

No, but I believe they know the deeper legal issues involved. So I agree... madfloridian Mar 2015 #14

If they protested in order for the lack of accessibility Jon82 Mar 2015 #39

Um, why should a disabled student get caught up in these "deeper issues"? KamaAina Mar 2015 #25

The question has already been answered.... madfloridian Mar 2015 #35

If the ADA rules have been ignored thucythucy Mar 2015 #42

Okay. madfloridian Mar 2015 #43

of course, all students will have a bathroom on the first floor if the teachers win this fight CreekDog Mar 2015 #34

The fist issue is protecting the student and teachers from possible abuse accusations. greatlaurel Mar 2015 #15

.......... madfloridian Mar 2015 #16

Thank you! greatlaurel Mar 2015 #19

Huh? KamaAina Mar 2015 #26

An unaccompanied adult cannot go into a restroom when a child is in the restroom alone. greatlaurel Mar 2015 #33

But the disabled student would only be in there between periods. KamaAina Mar 2015 #36

When do you think the teachers are going to be in there? XemaSab Mar 2015 #51

Thank you! greatlaurel Mar 2015 #54

Worse, the admin recently took out the bathroom that such students could use Yo_Mama Mar 2015 #45

A grievance like this is not "the only way the teachers have to address this problem." thucythucy Mar 2015 #49

Hey, you need to read up on what Arne Duncan and Obama are doing to special ed students. madfloridian Mar 2015 #56

I'd be happy to do so. thucythucy Mar 2015 #71

Here are some links, with other links in the post. madfloridian Mar 2015 #86

Thanks for these. thucythucy Mar 2015 #87

The teachers are doing the right thing. The school needs to build an accessible student bathroom, LeftyMom Mar 2015 #18

All well and good... but UNTIL that bathroom is built? Let the damn kid use the one restroom they cherokeeprogressive Mar 2015 #20

That may well be part of the agreement with the teachers. But the school has to agree to build one. LeftyMom Mar 2015 #22

Spiteful no. Selfish? Yes. n/t cherokeeprogressive Mar 2015 #23

I love when rich people call underpaid, overworked teachers selfish. LeftyMom Mar 2015 #24

cherokeeprogressive is rich?! KamaAina Mar 2015 #27

If you don't want people to know you're entitled you shouldn't post pics of your tacky gated spread. LeftyMom Mar 2015 #30

My "spread" has ZERO gates. My NEIGHBORHOOD has zero gates. cherokeeprogressive Mar 2015 #38

Thanks for this post. NCTraveler Mar 2015 #62

Snowing? KamaAina Mar 2015 #67

LOL I actually like the snow. cherokeeprogressive Mar 2015 #77

Well, it is an odd-numbered year, so I'm not expecting too much KamaAina Mar 2015 #78

They always do. cherokeeprogressive Mar 2015 #79

Hey, at least you're not in San Jose KamaAina Mar 2015 #80

No slack huh. Ever. I see how you are. n/t cherokeeprogressive Mar 2015 #82

They aren't very good at bragging if thats what they are doing. NCTraveler Mar 2015 #61

I was a Voc Ed/ROP teacher for ten years thank you. I'll call selfish people selfish all day long. cherokeeprogressive Mar 2015 #29

The teachers have to file the grievance to force the construction of the accessible bathroom. LeftyMom Mar 2015 #37

The school is then in violation of the IDEA, probably the ADA thucythucy Mar 2015 #46

Well, they HAD a student bathroom on that floor that they took out. Yo_Mama Mar 2015 #47

/facepalm deathrind Mar 2015 #31

Actually, teacher unions are under attack KamaAina Mar 2015 #32

You are right, unfortunately. deathrind Mar 2015 #83

The attack takes many forms. LiberalAndProud Mar 2015 #52

Yes. nt LWolf Mar 2015 #60

You are correct. deathrind Mar 2015 #84

a conflict between two progressive principles - it does happen sometimes - no sense denying that it Douglas Carpenter Mar 2015 #44

There is no conflict. The school is refusing to accomodate the student and blaming the teachers. greatlaurel Mar 2015 #55

Agree with you completely. n/t kiranon Mar 2015 #70

One question here: why is there no other accessible toilet in the school? LeftishBrit Mar 2015 #57

Sometimes being from Alabama is awesome Telcontar Mar 2015 #58

One hopes Texas will follow suit KamaAina Mar 2015 #68

How on earth could you have a publc building without a public restroom on the first (entry level) dsc Mar 2015 #63

Turns out the spec ed classroom had a student restroom that was removed recently. greatlaurel Mar 2015 #64

There is a bigger ADA issue here and the school district is throwing the teachers under the bus gollygee Mar 2015 #65

Maybe you should look a little more closely at this issue. NaturalHigh Mar 2015 #66

This: LWolf Mar 2015 #76