Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News Editorials & Other Articles General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search
 

Savannahmann

(3,891 posts)
29. This subject qualifies as an issue of extreme importance to me.
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 07:55 AM
Mar 2015

All lives matter. Life is precious, and we as a people should take it only as the last resort after all other avenues have been ruled out.

Gandhi told us something about violence that I've never forgotten. I object to violence because when it appears to do good, the good is only temporary; the evil it does is permanent.

The problem is with the marketing in society. Cops in movies, and TV are almost without exception good family people who are under a lot of pressure and when they use violence it's in a flashy choreographed manner that affects only those bad guys who really have it coming. The cop dispensing the beating, shooting, or whatever is a great guy/girl who is determined to stand up against inexpressible evil.

Look at the TV shows. A handful of cops against nearly unlimited numbers of bad guys. Fighting for their lives, to avenge the murder of a pretty young woman, or a child, or whatever. Or they are strict professionals who are torn up emotionally when they must resort to violence. Adam 12 followed this meme. A little square, but good people who called everyone Sir or Ma'am no matter what color they were. The dedicated public servant. Starsky and Hutch, flashy but trying to catch murderers, violent robbery suspects, drug dealers. Lethal Weapon took down a grand conspiracy that used drugs and mercenaries to terrorize the public in Los Angeles.

Even when the cops are flawed, it was a one time thing, a moment of weakness in an otherwise long and distinguished and honorable career ala Black Rain. Those handfuls of movies where there are bad cops, the bad cops either get killed by the good cops, ala Lethal Weapon 3, or go to prison for the rest of their lives and who feel incredible remorse for their misdeeds.

Yet real life doesn't have the advantages of the moves. There is no script writer to make sure that the cops are only dispensing beatings to the bad guys. In the movies, the cops plant the evidence to pressure a bad guy into giving up information. Not sending him to prison for years.

So people judge the police based upon their own experiences. With one cop for every couple hundred people in this nation, it is likely that any interaction was passing by the guy at a high school football game. Or watching the cop wave them through an intersection with a damaged traffic light. They might have had a cop show up in school and tell them about how dangerous drugs are, or guns or whatever. So this reinforces the image that the cops are good.

The worst cop defenders and faithful followers are those on the fringes of the us. It's family and friends of police. Even if they see a cop doing something wrong on the video, they refuse to believe most cops are involved since Dad, Mom, Uncle Tom, Aunt Mary, Brother or Sister would never do anything like that.

People often laugh at a woman who stands up in court and tells the Jury that her child is a good boy or girl. Despite the video evidence showing the young hoodlum committing any number of heinous crimes. That is normal human nature. That is the intense desire to believe the best about your loved ones. Yet, nobody laughs when the families of cops stand up and say that they know this guy and the video was taken out of context, and he/she is a good person.

In reality, when the police do get caught and charged with wrongdoing, they face much more lenient penalties than the mere civilians do. An example, in Ohio a Police Officer who left a dog in his cruiser for four hot long hours and the dog died from Heat Stroke got a fine of $500. In Ohio causing the death of a police dog is a 4th Degree Felony.

Ohio Revised Code 2921.32.1.

No person shall knowingly cause or attempt to cause physical harm to a police dog or horse in either of the following,if the dog or horse is assisting a police officer in doing his official duties or the dog or horse is not assisting the officer but the offender has actual knowledge that the dog/horse is a police dog or police horse. This statute also covers handicapped assistance dogs. A violation of this statute where death results it is a Felony of the 4th degree( 6 months to 18 months in jail and a $5,000 fine ). Serious physical harm to the dog/horse it's a Felony of the 5th degree (6 months to 12 months and $2,500 fine ). Physical harm is a Misdemeanor of the 1st degree ( no time to 6 months & $1,000 fine). If no harm is involved it is a Misd of the 2nd degree ( no time to 90 days & $750 fine )


So the Officer didn't even get the maximum penalty for no harm involved annoying the dog, but we are supposed to believe that Justice is blind.

Time after time, criminal act after criminal act, the police are exonerated, or at worst, given a few days off with pay. That will teach them, take a free paid Vacation Mike, and don't do it again (wink wink).

Your question is not how we got here, I know that. It's when will it change. Honestly, it won't until a majority of the people recognize that the cops are not the heroes of fiction and modern entertainment media. Until the people realize how abusive and brutal the police really are. Until the people realize that the cops are usually the biggest liars in the court room, there is no hope.

Recommendations

0 members have recommended this reply (displayed in chronological order):

K & R. And I think the answer to your question might be that Wella Mar 2015 #1
absolutely no doubt. marym625 Mar 2015 #2
In the end, power corrupts. It doesn't matter who you are. Wella Mar 2015 #3
I have never been so disillusioned marym625 Mar 2015 #4
I know. I just cringe for the next generation. Wella Mar 2015 #5
Well, it's hardly am upbeat post marym625 Mar 2015 #6
Well, there is that Wella Mar 2015 #7
doubt it marym625 Mar 2015 #8
Then that's that. Wella Mar 2015 #9
LOL! marym625 Mar 2015 #10
People have been distracted and silenced. Wella Mar 2015 #11
yummy! marym625 Mar 2015 #12
Oh, all right.... Wella Mar 2015 #13
Oh so very yummy! marym625 Mar 2015 #15
It's a work of art, I think. Wella Mar 2015 #18
I completely agree with that! marym625 Mar 2015 #20
Damn it, could you give an image warning? daleanime Mar 2015 #32
My apologies! Wella Mar 2015 #64
I think you're right. 840high Mar 2015 #58
bs cop out. LeftOfWest Apr 2015 #84
excellent post Mary M guillaumeb Mar 2015 #14
Thank you very much marym625 Mar 2015 #16
Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2015 #24
Wow, victim blaming much? KitSileya Mar 2015 #25
Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2015 #26
I missed all the name removed marym625 Mar 2015 #35
Was mewling on about how blacks had to start respecting themselves KitSileya Mar 2015 #42
Same sorry bullshit then. marym625 Mar 2015 #44
It won't happen, people like their security outsourced. ileus Mar 2015 #17
What a thought marym625 Mar 2015 #19
Consciousness about young black men...and duhneece Mar 2015 #21
I am glad you have hope marym625 Mar 2015 #22
I hear you duhneece Mar 2015 #57
Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2015 #23
How many of those were ruled to be murder? dariomax Mar 2015 #27
I am not sure any were marym625 Mar 2015 #36
This administration has aggressively EXPANDED police militarization and shows no signs woo me with science Mar 2015 #28
+1000 marym625 Mar 2015 #37
I so wish I could k and r this post 1000 times. Thanks woo. We are so fracked. bbgrunt Apr 2015 #77
Very thought provoking. qwlauren35 Apr 2015 #82
This subject qualifies as an issue of extreme importance to me. Savannahmann Mar 2015 #29
Thank you for your thoughts marym625 Mar 2015 #38
Great post. qwlauren35 Apr 2015 #81
Not a priority. DeSwiss Mar 2015 #30
Thank you, Deswiss! marym625 Mar 2015 #39
Truth to power Mary, always. 99Forever Mar 2015 #31
It is. and we have to use it marym625 Mar 2015 #40
K&R.... daleanime Mar 2015 #33
Thank you! marym625 Mar 2015 #41
not a priority w/ the big2 political parties. KG Mar 2015 #34
Some absolutely wonderful speechifying! marym625 Mar 2015 #43
Bills? What bills? malaise Mar 2015 #45
I know marym625 Mar 2015 #46
as to what to do about it guillaumeb Mar 2015 #47
Oh I wish I knew! marym625 Mar 2015 #50
and to you, especially for the posts guillaumeb Mar 2015 #53
Thanks again! eom marym625 Mar 2015 #55
Next in line behind bills to remove Stand Your Ground laws. aikoaiko Mar 2015 #48
Oh those have to go! marym625 Mar 2015 #51
If anyone was going to reform SYG laws it was Floriday after Zimmerman. aikoaiko Mar 2015 #59
I agree it was the best chance to change the law marym625 Mar 2015 #66
kick Liberal_in_LA Mar 2015 #49
Thank you! marym625 Mar 2015 #52
There are tiny signs of positive change. Comrade Grumpy Mar 2015 #54
Yes, true stuff. marym625 Mar 2015 #56
Here you go, Mary. Federal bills: Comrade Grumpy Mar 2015 #63
Thank you! marym625 Mar 2015 #67
Yes, it is frustrating. My first thought was to say we need Democrats in control. Comrade Grumpy Mar 2015 #69
No, they won't either marym625 Mar 2015 #73
kick napkinz Mar 2015 #60
Thank you, napkinz! marym625 Mar 2015 #61
you're welcome marym625 napkinz Mar 2015 #62
kick. The police state is protected and grown. woo me with science Mar 2015 #65
Thank you, Woo. marym625 Mar 2015 #68
K & R nt mother earth Mar 2015 #70
Thank you marym625 Mar 2015 #71
TY, Mary, for bringing this here. nt mother earth Mar 2015 #72
I didn't realize how often these things were captured on video. qwlauren35 Apr 2015 #74
absolutely no doubt! marym625 Apr 2015 #78
There are no "Good Cops"....full stop A HERETIC I AM Apr 2015 #75
Thank you for this marym625 Apr 2015 #79
We need to elect some Democrats to introduce those bills Man from Pickens Apr 2015 #76
We need to elect Democrats with backbone marym625 Apr 2015 #80
I don't think that's quite what we need. qwlauren35 Apr 2015 #83
Mary qwlauren35 Apr 2015 #85
As much as I love moveon.org marym625 Apr 2015 #86
I'm thinking DOJ. qwlauren35 Apr 2015 #87
personally, I don't think the DoJ gives a shit. marym625 Apr 2015 #89
Kick for exposure. arundhatiroyfan Apr 2015 #88
Thank you for the kick marym625 Apr 2015 #90
It's like my brother said after all the laws passed after 911 treestar Apr 2015 #91
prosecutors are a huge problem marym625 Apr 2015 #93
Someone should form a party to address such things. n/t Orsino Apr 2015 #92
sad thought that the existing parties don't care. marym625 Apr 2015 #94
Kick qwlauren35 Apr 2015 #95
Thanks for the kick! marym625 Apr 2015 #96
To get anything done, even if it's the right thing to do Calista241 Apr 2015 #97
Unfortunately, there are many Democrats that support it too marym625 Apr 2015 #98
This military surplus equipment is not free. FrankAB May 2015 #99
Yes. marym625 May 2015 #100
Where to start? FrankAB May 2015 #101
Probably because there are about a zillion posts in GD marym625 May 2015 #102
Ok, thanks FrankAB May 2015 #104
Sorry for the delay marym625 May 2015 #115
Kelley Thomas FrankAB May 2015 #103
It's a horrible picture marym625 May 2015 #105
Don't call the police! FrankAB May 2015 #108
+1000 marym625 May 2015 #111
Kicking, all I've noticed is the hiring of more AuntPatsy May 2015 #106
Thank you! marym625 May 2015 #107
Eric Garner was another one FrankAB May 2015 #109
wow! marym625 May 2015 #112
Got to keep our powder dry. [n/t] Maedhros May 2015 #110
Sorry, I don't know what that means. n/t marym625 May 2015 #113
For the 2006 midterm elections, the Democrats ran on a platform Maedhros May 2015 #114
Latest Discussions»General Discussion»Where are the bills to en...»Reply #29