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Surya Gayatri

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13. OK then, here's another...although the DM is often first off the mark

Sat Mar 28, 2015, 08:34 AM

Mar 2015

in breaking news situations, and political bias isn't really an issue here.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/mar/27/germanwings-co-pilot-andreas-lubitzs-background-under-scrutiny

Germanwings co-pilot Andreas Lubitz ‘wanted to make everyone remember him’

Lubitz told his former girlfriend that he wanted to do something to ‘change the system’, Bild reports, as investigators find torn-up sick note covering the day of the crash

And another:

http://www.france24.com/en/20150328-germanwings-pilot-lubitz-history-name/

The Germanwings co-pilot who crashed his Airbus in the French Alps, killing all 150 aboard, told his ex-girlfriend that "one day everyone will know my name", according to German newspaper Bild.

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'I'm planning a (heinous) act that will be remembered forever'... [View all] Surya Gayatri Mar 2015 OP

Sadly, I guess, he will be forgotten within a year or two. The crash won't but he will. Shrike47 Mar 2015 #1

Well, he will have had his '15 minutes of fame', albeit Surya Gayatri Mar 2015 #2

It might have been nice if she had reported this to the airlines. Chemisse Mar 2015 #3

Was she so afraid of him that she didn't dare for fear Surya Gayatri Mar 2015 #4

She will regret not reporting him for the rest of her life. mnhtnbb Mar 2015 #5

Just too horrible to contemplate. She's been hiding Surya Gayatri Mar 2015 #9

yup Liberal_in_LA Mar 2015 #16

He told her, supposedly, that he was getting psychiatric care. randome Mar 2015 #17

I agree. Chemisse Mar 2015 #18

And I agree with that. Maybe she should have been more aware of the consequences than most. randome Mar 2015 #21

More like hindsight quarterbacking at this point... TeeYiYi Mar 2015 #30

Why didn't his parents report his problems? malaise Mar 2015 #29

Maybe because like so many parents, they remained willfully blind...? Surya Gayatri Mar 2015 #32

Or unwilling to look deeper than his facade to see the illness underneath. Chemisse Mar 2015 #53

My pilot, my son...unhappily, all too common. Surya Gayatri Mar 2015 #54

No matter what the laws are, I would feel a personal moral and ethical duty to warn someone. Sienna86 Mar 2015 #6

even if he had mentall illness it sounds like he was aware JI7 Mar 2015 #7

Being mentally ill does not mean your perception Surya Gayatri Mar 2015 #10

not always JI7 Mar 2015 #14

Of course, I'm generalizing for the sake of brevity. Surya Gayatri Mar 2015 #15

Then why make a statement like that? enlightenment Mar 2015 #22

Didn't feel like going into a multi-� expos� on the Surya Gayatri Mar 2015 #23

Then perhaps you should enlightenment Mar 2015 #33

In as much as this is the lead news story in every Surya Gayatri Mar 2015 #35

Given that enlightenment Mar 2015 #37

I have mental issues, yeah. I also fly fairly frequently. Surya Gayatri Mar 2015 #61

link? elehhhhna Mar 2015 #8

Oh, thanks for asking. Forgot! Surya Gayatri Mar 2015 #11

Isn't that a tabloid? ann--- Mar 2015 #79

There are several links in the OP to more reliable sources... Surya Gayatri Mar 2015 #80

The Daily Mail? oberliner Mar 2015 #12

OK then, here's another...although the DM is often first off the mark Surya Gayatri Mar 2015 #13

The Mail has now removed the word 'heinous' from the quote of the ex-girlfriend muriel_volestrangler Mar 2015 #19

One would hope she wasn't aware of his 'heinous' intentions... Surya Gayatri Mar 2015 #20

Agree about the DM--purposely didn't use it as a source for an OP Surya Gayatri Mar 2015 #24

All are attributing to the original source, the story in Bild pinboy3niner Mar 2015 #26

True, and 'lost in translation' may explain why some Surya Gayatri Mar 2015 #28

She really should have reported him via the system set up Ms. Toad Mar 2015 #25

Failure to report in France can be prosecuted under Surya Gayatri Mar 2015 #27

"Unerlassene Hilfeleistung" DFW Mar 2015 #74

Preach it, brother..."The mental health records?...It is his employer's DUTY to know them!" Surya Gayatri Mar 2015 #75

Yes, I saw that DFW Mar 2015 #76

OMG, the panic...did you get calls from the States, too? Surya Gayatri Mar 2015 #83

Of course-but later DFW Mar 2015 #86

Yes, know the time-lag problem well. Can never just Surya Gayatri Mar 2015 #92

I agree ann--- Mar 2015 #78

But, that's precisely what's at issue here. German doctors Surya Gayatri Mar 2015 #84

How about that right to mental health privacy? kcr Mar 2015 #31

No, not bigotted, just in the real world, where Surya Gayatri Mar 2015 #34

The real world filled with mass murderers around every corner? kcr Mar 2015 #62

A real world where hundreds of thousands of flyers Surya Gayatri Mar 2015 #64

Nothing wrong with reassurance kcr Mar 2015 #71

On the professional pilot forum I sometimes read, opinion is very divided Surya Gayatri Mar 2015 #72

Opinion is divided on a forum? Unheard of! kcr Mar 2015 #81

Yeah, who knew? A divergence of views! LOL! Surya Gayatri Mar 2015 #82

No way to know for certain what would have happened since it already happened kcr Mar 2015 #93

Yes, this issue is at the crux of 'open and free' societies... Surya Gayatri Mar 2015 #94

I'm not arguing from a personal liberty POV kcr Mar 2015 #95

True that 'if they really want to kill you, they will'... Surya Gayatri Mar 2015 #96

I'm sure it is important to the airline industry and their bottom line kcr Mar 2015 #97

Rather shortsighted POV, if I may say so. If nobody will Surya Gayatri Mar 2015 #98

It wouldn't be the desired outcome. Which is why I don't think everyone will just stop flying. kcr Mar 2015 #99

There are serveral anxious flyers just in my immediate entourage. After such a catastrophe, Surya Gayatri Mar 2015 #100

Flying produces a lot of anxiety in some people and always has. kcr Mar 2015 #101

True, back in the day, flying used to be a fairly pleasant experience... Surya Gayatri Mar 2015 #103

We are at our worst when we judge and demonize based on fears uppityperson Mar 2015 #36

Certainly do not wish to appear to be 'disingenuous', UP... Surya Gayatri Mar 2015 #38

Did you see the latest on his vision problems? uppityperson Mar 2015 #43

Yes, his vision problems and probable consultations were mentioned in the BBC article... Surya Gayatri Mar 2015 #47

sleep aids cause vision problems KMOD Mar 2015 #55

Did not know that...thanks. Surya Gayatri Mar 2015 #56

what about bus drivers? teachers? arely staircase Mar 2015 #39

Definitely, anyone operating potentially deadly machinery Surya Gayatri Mar 2015 #48

ok arely staircase Mar 2015 #49

I had a feeling that cwydro Mar 2015 #40

So did I, the moment they said his breathing in the cockpit Surya Gayatri Mar 2015 #42

I see that you're taking flak in this thread cwydro Mar 2015 #41

Thank you for understanding...it's at the top of every Surya Gayatri Mar 2015 #44

It's all over CNN here non-stop. cwydro Mar 2015 #46

Yes, he'd been consulting doctors about it, apparently... Surya Gayatri Mar 2015 #51

There are some good reports on Der Spiegel malaise Mar 2015 #50

It's frontpage news in every European media outlet, serious and otherwise... Surya Gayatri Mar 2015 #57

Mass murder is part of the E! entertainment culture... Eleanors38 Mar 2015 #45

Well said...LOL! What's a sociopath to do! Surya Gayatri Mar 2015 #52

feel free to post your protected health information here when you get a chance frylock Mar 2015 #58

How silly...why would I do that on an open forum? Surya Gayatri Mar 2015 #59

just because you are THEORETICALLY willing to hand over your private life mopinko Mar 2015 #63

An entire safety-sensitive industry cannot be monitored on a case by case basis, relying Surya Gayatri Mar 2015 #65

and no matter how many members here tell you that you are being mopinko Mar 2015 #68

Once again, I repeat my contention that mandatory Surya Gayatri Mar 2015 #69

Posters are allowed to have differing opinions. cwydro Mar 2015 #85

Hey, cwydro, thanks for getting my back. Surya Gayatri Mar 2015 #87

I hate when DUers try to tell others cwydro Mar 2015 #88

Couldn't agree more...reveals a disturbing authoritarian bent, IMHO... Surya Gayatri Mar 2015 #89

True dat. cwydro Mar 2015 #91

'...in infamy.' n/t moondust Mar 2015 #60

Shit just got real. Initech Mar 2015 #66

Yeah, Lufthansa's legal crew is burning the midnight oil Surya Gayatri Mar 2015 #67

I can imagine. Initech Mar 2015 #70

Pure and simple... Surya Gayatri Mar 2015 #73

Why didn't she say something to ann--- Mar 2015 #77

Very personal issue...maybe she was just so glad Surya Gayatri Mar 2015 #90

Her mistake ann--- Mar 2015 #109

He had the makings of a successful CEO. A true sociopath. nt valerief Mar 2015 #102

Sadly, yes, he missed his calling. Tragically bad career orientation... Surya Gayatri Mar 2015 #104

There is no "right to mental health privacy" once a person is dead, and especially after they've MADem Mar 2015 #105

No 'right to mental health privacy' indeed. It's becoming Surya Gayatri Mar 2015 #106

I suspect that this "accident" (and I put it in quotes for a reason--as it was a mass murder) will MADem Mar 2015 #107

Lots of discussion about just this professional threat Surya Gayatri Mar 2015 #108

Once we get past a bit of a bumpy period--and they'll probably roll it out with cargo aircraft, to MADem Mar 2015 #111

Parachutes for planes? Who knew...I'd certainly never Surya Gayatri Mar 2015 #112

Yeah, they exist--and one manufacturer says they 'might' have saved the Germanwings pax. MADem Mar 2015 #113

Hey, thanks for bringing this! Astonishing... Surya Gayatri Mar 2015 #114

That's what I've always thought, myself. MADem Mar 2015 #115

Thanks...I'd never thought of this in my wildest imagination! Surya Gayatri Mar 2015 #116

This from the continuous coverage in the German press... Surya Gayatri Mar 2015 #110