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Bluenorthwest

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14. First off, one says 'Sir Roger' and clearly Roger lacks the insight to understand that for a
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 10:15 AM
Mar 2015

fictional character, the moment when that character starts being portrayed by a diverse group of actors is the moment that character becomes a true part of the culture. See, Martin Luther King, Jr was an actual person, Bond is a fictional character. Fleming's original time and historical context is long past. The films have no chosen, as they could have done, to remain set in the Fleming era instead they have moved forward along that timeline and are always set in 'present day'. Perhaps the leading reason for that is that a major feature of Bond films and Bond himself is cutting edge technologies, he's not the past, he's a step ahead. Today's Bond has to have tech we don't have, but obviously the man needs a cell phone, Fleming never even dreamed to give him such a thing.
If he's going to live in the present, his attitudes and those of the universe he lives in must also be in the present. In Fleming's time, M would not have been a woman, but in the films Judy sure is fine in the role, and a woman in that job makes full and reasonable sense. So in terms of casting and Fleming's 'intent' the bridge has been crossed long since.
In what world, fictional or real, is M a woman but no double 0 agent is black? Because I'd have to contend that in Fleming's Bond universe, the dynamic between men and women and the expected gender roles play a far larger part in defining that universe than racial dynamics or identity, so once you have make women Bond's equals and superiors, Fleming's world has been updated drastically and is no longer Fleming's world.
Idris Elba would be a most excellent casting choice for the role of James Bond.

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Fuck that. I want a female Bond! And a female Doctor Who, too! randome Mar 2015 #1
Lucy Liu for Bond! KitSileya Mar 2015 #3
I hope the current Doctor lasts quite a while, Codeine Mar 2015 #4
And a boy playing the lead in Annie packman Mar 2015 #5
First off, one says 'Sir Roger' and clearly Roger lacks the insight to understand that for a Bluenorthwest Mar 2015 #14
007 is not a role like that treestar Mar 2015 #20
Well... greytdemocrat Mar 2015 #8
She is supposed to return, which is good. randome Mar 2015 #12
Matt Smith was young enough for me (nt) Nye Bevan Mar 2015 #15
In defense of miscasting- Captain Kathryn Janeway packman Mar 2015 #17
I don't think she killed that series... Ilsa Mar 2015 #22
Old man says something that might be better unsaid or rephrased. Not that exciting. Shrike47 Mar 2015 #2
This whole Idris Elba as Bond thing is a non-story. One of the 99 Mar 2015 #6
English-English translation: White English marmar Mar 2015 #7
Exactly. I could care less who the next Bond is, tbh Cal Carpenter Mar 2015 #11
Idris Elba is hot as hell! ellie Mar 2015 #9
A Chicago columnist years ago frequently pushed the idea of Michael Jordan as Bond. Gidney N Cloyd Mar 2015 #10
Now I feel bad for even liking "Moonraker" as a kid KeepItReal Mar 2015 #13
i couldnt follow Luther becsuse of the strong accents.need a version with subtitles Liberal_in_LA Mar 2015 #16
Yay! Another Luther fan! Elba would be an outstanding James Bond, no question. djean111 Mar 2015 #19
Can't wait for Luther Season 4! KeepItReal Mar 2015 #25
Sean Connery - really really good. djean111 Mar 2015 #18
George Lazenby - Really really really good. whistler162 Mar 2015 #26
For one second there, I froze...and now I can't stop laughing. djean111 Mar 2015 #28
Ugh. He was my favorite Bond. Also seemed to be a good human being. DanTex Mar 2015 #21
When I saw 'Clive' I immediately thought 'Cliven Bundy'. randome Mar 2015 #23
LOL. Cliven Bundy, international man of mystery!!! Perfect. DanTex Mar 2015 #24
shame on us all... pretzel4gore Mar 2015 #27
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