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Mz Pip

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35. Losing is not good, or better.

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Sun Mar 29, 2015, 01:33 AM

Mar 2015

That's just silly.

Heaven help us if the Republicans controlled all three branches of government.

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Are Democrats better off losing the presidency in 2016? [View all] Renew Deal Mar 2015 OP

scotus is primary all other concerns are secondary Romeo.lima333 Mar 2015 #1

+ 1 million MBS Mar 2015 #96

I do, too deutsey Mar 2015 #100

Yes get the red out Mar 2015 #103

Um, that would be NO. Losing it in 2016 would be awful. CaliforniaPeggy Mar 2015 #2

Winning is better than losing. hrmjustin Mar 2015 #3

Yup. Agschmid Mar 2015 #4

Loosing? Warren DeMontague Mar 2015 #73

They do it in New Hampshire TheCowsCameHome Mar 2015 #77

. hrmjustin Mar 2015 #91

Sorry, pet peeve. Warren DeMontague Mar 2015 #94

No Kalidurga Mar 2015 #5

It would be interesting to see if the OP is a member of any of those groups... DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #23

+100 n/t JustAnotherGen Mar 2015 #102

THAT is a dumb question. I don't know of one babylonsister Mar 2015 #6

Forget about viability Renew Deal Mar 2015 #8

OK. Horribe idea imo. Still. nt babylonsister Mar 2015 #26

We, the people, cannot afford to lose in 2016!!! Major Hogwash Mar 2015 #45

Definitly, it was the "lost decade" and all these years later we're still working on RKP5637 Mar 2015 #65

assuming what you say is true 2016 would probably be more important than 2020 JI7 Mar 2015 #7

This... Renew Deal Mar 2015 #9

What kind of dumb ass question is that bigdarryl Mar 2015 #10

Would Floyd Mayweather be better off losing to Manny Pacquiao or vice versa?/NT DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #11

I think Floyd would be better off losing Cali_Democrat Mar 2015 #13

Floyd thinks he's better than Muhammad Ali or Sugar Ray Robinson because they lost... DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #17

He's undefeated brush Mar 2015 #63

I don't want to turn this into a boxing thread DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #72

Not even close to the same Renew Deal Mar 2015 #14

"Tanked" DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #19

And none of their best candidates ran. Renew Deal Mar 2015 #21

Fox News and the righties were convinced that Romney would be the winner Gothmog Mar 2015 #85

Kind of exactly but I think most Foxies knew better while some believed their own bullshit. DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #88

"We likely can't hold it for 2020" based on what? arcane1 Mar 2015 #12

When was the last time a party held the presidency for 16 years? Renew Deal Mar 2015 #15

Irrelevant. arcane1 Mar 2015 #18

When was the last time there was this kind of babylonsister Mar 2015 #28

When was the last time there was a great demographic shift? joshcryer Mar 2015 #55

In presidential elections with an incumbent on the ballot, the incumbent has won bornskeptic Mar 2015 #95

When was the last time you rotated your tires and lost a lug nut snooper2 Mar 2015 #104

Unless the GOP change their position on immigration, the Hispanic vote will be even stronger in 2020 Gothmog Mar 2015 #86

....... steve2470 Mar 2015 #16

Hey steve! Cha Mar 2015 #25

hey Cha! :) steve2470 Mar 2015 #27

Bush was a nightmare think Mar 2015 #20

This would be worse and have more lasting consequences still_one Mar 2015 #33

Worst Nightmare. Scott Walker. Walker would really mess things up. /nt think Mar 2015 #34

Not at all jmowreader Mar 2015 #22

WTF Cha Mar 2015 #24

When the GOP are rounding up clown like Cruz to run, it is nover a time to lose an election. Thinkingabout Mar 2015 #29

No. We can't afford to lose in 2016. TDale313 Mar 2015 #30

Kuh-wazy. A-Schwarzenegger Mar 2015 #31

No! Contrary to some views there are major differences between still_one Mar 2015 #32

Losing is not good, or better. Mz Pip Mar 2015 #35

Don't forget they control the lion's share of the governorships and state legislatures too.../NT DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #76

NO!!!!! We lose the presidency, we lose SCOTUS. Period. Initech Mar 2015 #36

There is no such thing as a good year to lose the Presidency, or the Senate, or the House. DebJ Mar 2015 #37

WTF Hekate Mar 2015 #38

A short-term Democratic loss... Binkie The Clown Mar 2015 #39

this is fantasy. Any republican term in the WH is dangerous and affects millions of individuals bigtree Mar 2015 #41

well done Willem Mar 2015 #42

The White House is not a rook. RandySF Mar 2015 #44

That was the theory Nader promoted in the 2000 election. And we saw how well that worked out. pnwmom Mar 2015 #47

People said this shit in 2000. RandySF Mar 2015 #50

The Nader strategy. joshcryer Mar 2015 #56

well Willem Mar 2015 #40

Is America better off? RandySF Mar 2015 #43

NO. NO. NO. NO. NO. A thousand times NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! pnwmom Mar 2015 #46

Only if you want a right wing Supreme Court for the next two decades DFW Mar 2015 #48

If they win in 2016 octoberlib Mar 2015 #49

It depends if a corporate Dem is the nominee yes we would be better off losing anotojefiremnesuka Mar 2015 #51

"Accept Doom" email campaigns, posts like this.... woo me with science Mar 2015 #52

Oh yes, "corporate messaging" is behind "anti-GWB 2.0." joshcryer Mar 2015 #54

Just fascinating to watch the attempts at spin. woo me with science Mar 2015 #57

The OP is objectively against "GWB 2.0." joshcryer Mar 2015 #60

Surreal... woo me with science Mar 2015 #61

^This^ should be a pinned OP. RiverLover Mar 2015 #62

Ask GWB. Or alternatively *. joshcryer Mar 2015 #53

If the Republicans run a tea-party type candidate Revanchist Mar 2015 #58

If the GOP Selects a TeaHadist to run for POTUS the Democrats will select a Corporate Dem anotojefiremnesuka Mar 2015 #59

never Doctor_J Mar 2015 #64

If we lose in 2016 we may never get it back. DCBob Mar 2015 #66

It is NEVER desirable to lose ANYTHING. RBInMaine Mar 2015 #67

If Ted Cruz is the Republican nominee, 2016 = Democrat win. Yorktown Mar 2015 #68

I heard exactly the same nonsense in 1980 thucythucy Mar 2015 #79

LOL Reagan had popular appeal, Cruz has God-nut appeal Yorktown Mar 2015 #92

The American people thucythucy Mar 2015 #98

I guess it depends on how much you like Social Security and Medicare. Vinca Mar 2015 #69

Of course not . . . Geez louise DrDan Mar 2015 #70

No! It is imperative that the Democrats keep avebury Mar 2015 #71

And giving up the US Supreme Court for two more generations? hlthe2b Mar 2015 #74

I'd say losing the senate & the presidency is the worst case HereSince1628 Mar 2015 #75

Just plain dumb idea HERVEPA Mar 2015 #78

No Proud Liberal Dem Mar 2015 #80

NO. DinahMoeHum Mar 2015 #81

That's a question that can only really be answered 'after the fact', Erich Bloodaxe BSN Mar 2015 #82

Depends on who the Democratic nominee is. n/t 99Forever Mar 2015 #83

Losing in 2016 is a horrible concept Gothmog Mar 2015 #84

You have to be honest about probably losing Roe but once you betterdemsonly Mar 2015 #87

If we lose in 2016... yuiyoshida Mar 2015 #89

Why wouldn't we hold it in 2020? MineralMan Mar 2015 #90

No. HuckleB Mar 2015 #93

And lose how many SCOTUS seats? gollygee Mar 2015 #97

we have to win in 2016 because i really don't want to go through all the hassle of Takket Mar 2015 #99

No Liberalynn Mar 2015 #101