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In reply to the discussion: Can We Have An Open Honest Discussion About Progressives, Civil Rights, And Income Inequality ??? [View all]WillyT
(72,631 posts)71. YES !!! - They Are Intertwined And Inseperable... That's Why MLK...
Started Taking Heat From His Own (African American And White Civil Rights Leaders) When He Started Speaking Out On Vietnam, And Then Supported The Sanitation Workers In Memphis Where He Was Shot Dead
Link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Luther_King_Jr.
He Continued...
And he seemed to foreshadow his own death...
Link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I%27ve_Been_to_the_Mountaintop
Poor People's Campaign, 1968
In 1968, King and the SCLC organized the "Poor People's Campaign" to address issues of economic justice. King traveled the country to assemble "a multiracial army of the poor" that would march on Washington to engage in nonviolent civil disobedience at the Capitol until Congress created an "economic bill of rights" for poor Americans.[175][176]
The campaign was preceded by King's final book, Where Do We Go from Here: Chaos or Community?, which laid out his view of how to address social issues and poverty. King quoted from Henry George and George's book, Progress and Poverty, particularly in support of a guaranteed basic income.[177][178][179] The campaign culminated in a march on Washington, D.C., demanding economic aid to the poorest communities of the United States.
King and the SCLC called on the government to invest in rebuilding America's cities. He felt that Congress had shown "hostility to the poor" by spending "military funds with alacrity and generosity". He contrasted this with the situation faced by poor Americans, claiming that Congress had merely provided "poverty funds with miserliness".[176] His vision was for change that was more revolutionary than mere reform: he cited systematic flaws of "racism, poverty, militarism and materialism", and argued that "reconstruction of society itself is the real issue to be faced".[180]
The Poor People's Campaign was controversial even within the civil rights movement. Rustin resigned from the march, stating that the goals of the campaign were too broad, that its demands were unrealizable, and that he thought that these campaigns would accelerate the backlash and repression on the poor and the black.
In 1968, King and the SCLC organized the "Poor People's Campaign" to address issues of economic justice. King traveled the country to assemble "a multiracial army of the poor" that would march on Washington to engage in nonviolent civil disobedience at the Capitol until Congress created an "economic bill of rights" for poor Americans.[175][176]
The campaign was preceded by King's final book, Where Do We Go from Here: Chaos or Community?, which laid out his view of how to address social issues and poverty. King quoted from Henry George and George's book, Progress and Poverty, particularly in support of a guaranteed basic income.[177][178][179] The campaign culminated in a march on Washington, D.C., demanding economic aid to the poorest communities of the United States.
King and the SCLC called on the government to invest in rebuilding America's cities. He felt that Congress had shown "hostility to the poor" by spending "military funds with alacrity and generosity". He contrasted this with the situation faced by poor Americans, claiming that Congress had merely provided "poverty funds with miserliness".[176] His vision was for change that was more revolutionary than mere reform: he cited systematic flaws of "racism, poverty, militarism and materialism", and argued that "reconstruction of society itself is the real issue to be faced".[180]
The Poor People's Campaign was controversial even within the civil rights movement. Rustin resigned from the march, stating that the goals of the campaign were too broad, that its demands were unrealizable, and that he thought that these campaigns would accelerate the backlash and repression on the poor and the black.
Link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Luther_King_Jr.
He Continued...
The issue is injustice. The issue is the refusal of Memphis to be fair and honest in its dealings with its public servants, who happen to be sanitation workers.
Somewhere I read of the freedom of assembly. Somewhere I read of the freedom of speech. Somewhere I read of the freedom of press. Somewhere I read that the greatness of America is the right to protest for rights. And so just as I said, we aren't going to let dogs or water hoses turn us around. We aren't going to let any injunction turn us around. We are going on.
Somewhere I read of the freedom of assembly. Somewhere I read of the freedom of speech. Somewhere I read of the freedom of press. Somewhere I read that the greatness of America is the right to protest for rights. And so just as I said, we aren't going to let dogs or water hoses turn us around. We aren't going to let any injunction turn us around. We are going on.
And he seemed to foreshadow his own death...
Like anybody, I would like to live - a long life; longevity has its place. But I'm not concerned about that now. I just want to do God's will. And He's allowed me to go up to the mountain. And I've looked over. And I've seen the Promised Land. I may not get there with you. But I want you to know tonight, that we, as a people, will get to the Promised Land. So I'm happy, tonight. I'm not worried about anything. I'm not fearing any man. Mine eyes have seen the glory of the coming of the Lord.
Link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I%27ve_Been_to_the_Mountaintop
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Can We Have An Open Honest Discussion About Progressives, Civil Rights, And Income Inequality ??? [View all]
WillyT
Mar 2015
OP
I sometimes wonder if you think blocking economic justice will increase social justice
Fumesucker
Mar 2015
#7
I've spent time in both worlds, the one with heavy duty connections and the one without
Fumesucker
Mar 2015
#13
As you move up society your responsibility becomes less and less, you can get away with more
Fumesucker
Mar 2015
#86
+100000 Which illustrates how cynical and empty and manipulative the Third Way exhortations
woo me with science
Mar 2015
#62
That alert should be alerted on. It is an abuse of the Jury system and violates
sabrina 1
Mar 2015
#110
Excellent jury. I agree with juror #2 that the alerter should be suspended for calling a longtime
sabrina 1
Mar 2015
#109
The Third Way claim of caring most about women and minorities is a cynical, vicious lie.
woo me with science
Mar 2015
#14
Two plus two equals five! A predictable Orwellian, avoidant, disingenuous response.
woo me with science
Mar 2015
#31
More on the ACTUAL aftermath of neoliberal policies on women, children, and minorities.
woo me with science
Mar 2015
#46
I don't know what's worse. The OP using a rich, old white man to somehow "dispute" the validity
Number23
Mar 2015
#85
The thing about this thread: you've got posters of color, women and gay posters flat out
Number23
Mar 2015
#106
On top of the condescending bullshit is the most laughable suggestion of all-
bettyellen
Apr 2015
#129
This is the guy who told me 'rights don't matter if you need a job, can't eat your rights'
Bluenorthwest
Mar 2015
#52
No, I'm talking to you. Every time, you are circling the wagons for the upper crust and poo pooing
TheKentuckian
Mar 2015
#101
Yes, and Hillary did NOTHING for Walmart's women employees whilst on their BoD
closeupready
Mar 2015
#59
Equity in poverty and lack of opportunity is a sales pitch to sand off a few rough edges while
TheKentuckian
Mar 2015
#93
I season my greens with spices not with swine and my little girl isn't born yet but she is
TheKentuckian
Mar 2015
#96
+1. The whole point of triangulation is "how little can I offer you and still get your vote?"
winter is coming
Mar 2015
#34
+100000 It's a vicious, disingenuous scam, the neoliberal claim to care about civil rights
woo me with science
Mar 2015
#50
Can you explain to me how the legal discrimination in employment in 29 States against LGBT
Bluenorthwest
Mar 2015
#23
You notice not one of the people making these assertions is able to discuss specific points raised.
Bluenorthwest
Mar 2015
#45
As we're seeing in Indiana right now, economic rights ARE civil rights. [n/t]
Maedhros
Mar 2015
#108
Carlin was a rich white guy, worth millions and he was very aware that his counterparts who were
Bluenorthwest
Mar 2015
#42
Did you read what I wrote? Carlin does not say what the OP claims. Carlin did not shit on others
Bluenorthwest
Mar 2015
#48
And where's the part where he says those who are disenfranchised compared to George should not
Bluenorthwest
Mar 2015
#60
I don't think anyone is suggesting that Carlin "others wanting to have equal treatment was wrong"
FLPanhandle
Mar 2015
#63
But the OP is the one dividing people to serve rich politicians. Sorry. He exploited George to
Bluenorthwest
Mar 2015
#70
You never bothered to answer my first question to you in this thread. WTF indeed.
Bluenorthwest
Mar 2015
#111
Being held as an equal human being entitled to the same considerations and protections
MerryBlooms
Mar 2015
#57
For progressives it's not civil rights OR economic rights. It's AND. Neither should be ignored.
pampango
Mar 2015
#61
Please See Post #71... And... The Point I Was Making Was About The ThirdWay Theory...
WillyT
Mar 2015
#74
'Give THEM the rights that costs us no money'? Are you serious, straight man?
Bluenorthwest
Mar 2015
#112
I... Value Them Equally... It's The Roadblocks That Politicians (Republicans) Put Up...
WillyT
Mar 2015
#116
What good compassionate progressive does not like being called a racist and mysoginist?
WillTwain
Mar 2015
#103
I think that identity politics has largely been designed to distract us from economic populism.
lumberjack_jeff
Mar 2015
#115