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madfloridian

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12. 16 Things We Learned from the Shocking Scientology Doc Going Clear. Esquire
Mon Mar 30, 2015, 01:09 PM
Mar 2015
http://www.esquire.com/entertainment/tv/a34001/going-clear-surprising-facts/?src=spr_TWITTER&spr_id=1456_161844441

8. Jason Beghe is the kind of guy you'd want to have a beer with.

It's a good thing that Going Clear is playing on HBO and not PBS; otherwise, Beghe—who plays Hank Voight on Chicago P.D.—might not have made the final cut of the film, as his fascinating insights into the Church and his own experiences as a Scientologist are filled with expletives. But in the most charming way possible.

9. Marty Rathbun is the Michael Jordan of auditing.

In the film, Beghe refers to Marty Rathbun, a former executive with the Church and one of its preeminent auditors, as both the Michael Jordan and Wayne Gretzky of auditing. Which amuses Rathbun. "Here is my recognition after all of these years," Rathbun tells Esquire in an interview, with a laugh. "I really looked at what sort of set me apart or put me at this place where he would say, 'Hey, he is really good,' and recognize all of this complicated, sophisticated stuff that goes with it. The only thing that set me apart was my ability to instill confidence in somebody."


They are still harassing him.

11. Scientology is tax-exempt.

After having its tax-exempt status revoked by the IRS in 1967, current Church of Scientology leader David Miscavige was able to have it reinstated on October 1, 1993. A major celebration followed, with the Church declaring that "The War Is Over."


They harassed the IRS so badly, the IRS caved.

14. Being labeled an SP (suppressive person) is not a good thing.

In the documentary, former Scientologists share the stories of how they were labeled SPs and forced out of the Church. "It is really Byzantine and complicated, depending on your status and whether you are staff or a certain level," Rathbun tells us. "The bottom line is that if you don't tow the line, if you are critical, if you express criticism to any degree and you persist with it, you will be labeled a suppressive person. And when you are a suppressive person, all other Scientologists—by longstanding policy—must disconnect from you in every way, shape, matter, or form, including any communication or any association whatsoever." When Rathbun chose to leave the Church after 27 years, his wife stayed. "I spent the last 10 months attempting to sort of reconcile the fact that I had to go because of the extremity of abuse that was going on.(My wife) was a second-generation Scientologist. She chose to stay."

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The book was AMAZING XemaSab Mar 2015 #1
"the last 1/3 was footnotes" madfloridian Mar 2015 #2
Yeah, i just tore through it myself. Warren DeMontague Mar 2015 #4
Ooh, can I borrow it next time I see you? nt LeftyMom Mar 2015 #26
OMG yaaaaaaaassssss XemaSab Mar 2015 #27
Haven't seen it yet, but I plan to, so here's a K/R for the thread. nt MADem Mar 2015 #3
The best tweets: Manifestor_of_Light Mar 2015 #5
@TheRealXenu Capt. Obvious Mar 2015 #33
What a waste of space Tom Cruise is. SleeplessinSoCal Mar 2015 #6
K & R Surya Gayatri Mar 2015 #7
"The Church" exploited John Travolta when he was at his most vulnerable. no_hypocrisy Mar 2015 #8
Marty Rathbun is a fromer senior exec. in Scientology's "auditing" division. Snarkoleptic Mar 2015 #9
Yes, he was one Jenna Hill trusted along with his wife I think. madfloridian Mar 2015 #10
I DVR'd the movie and am currently trying to avoid reading the thread. Snarkoleptic Mar 2015 #14
Scientology was able to intimidate the IRS JPZenger Mar 2015 #11
They infiltrated the IRS as well. Snarkoleptic Mar 2015 #15
16 Things We Learned from the Shocking Scientology Doc Going Clear. Esquire madfloridian Mar 2015 #12
One of the best documentaries I've seen in a long time. Initech Mar 2015 #13
I didn't realize Leah Remini had left Scientology. tammywammy Mar 2015 #16
Yes, she was on many shows speaking out. madfloridian Mar 2015 #19
Of course they did tammywammy Mar 2015 #20
She did mention being followed. Didn't mention who it was. madfloridian Mar 2015 #21
Her and everyone else that's escaped has my pity tammywammy Mar 2015 #22
I imagine it will be on DVD soon. madfloridian Mar 2015 #23
She was very vocal but looked a little scared. RiffRandell Mar 2015 #36
She questioned Miscavaige about his missing wife. xmas74 Mar 2015 #29
It even covered this event in Tom Cruise's life. madfloridian Mar 2015 #17
On the Media: Nazanin Boniadi MinM Mar 2015 #28
I wonder if she is still a Scientologist? madfloridian Mar 2015 #32
Wow..If I joined the church I wonder who they'd set ME up with Blue_Tires Mar 2015 #37
They are behind Lisa Marie going after Michael Jackson.... bettyellen Mar 2015 #30
Just read that Lisa Marie quit them a couple of years ago. madfloridian Mar 2015 #35
It's kind of amazing how they've kept the press away from Travolta.... bettyellen Mar 2015 #38
Squirrel Busters actually proud of their cute lil t shirts. Ugly stuff toward Rathbun. madfloridian Mar 2015 #18
I'm going to Amazon the paperback. n/t UTUSN Mar 2015 #24
Really good film. And very creepy. DanTex Mar 2015 #25
You want creepy? Warpy Mar 2015 #31
The documentary is excellent. Greybnk48 Mar 2015 #34
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