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muriel_volestrangler

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18. It's not that accurate a description of Brave New World

Reply to Ichingcarpenter (Original post)

Mon Mar 30, 2015, 02:21 PM

Mar 2015

BNW is not just about a world where no-one wants to read a book; they've been conditioned to not want to do something solitary, like reading a book. The people don't go to 'passivity and egotism' through being given too much; what they have is carefully controlled to match what they been conditioned to want, and their conditioning is not towards egotism; they are conditioned to see themselves as a happy cog in the benevolent machine of what they are assured is the best possible society, and are carefully taught not to have an ego, or ambition. And there's not that much 'drowning of truth'; the world really is at peace, and controlled to stay that way, and everyone knows it.

I suppose you could say the in BNW the truth of the alternatives - a society with competition and suffering, triumph and disappointment, love and loss, and highs and lows - is covered up.

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Huxley vs Orwell [View all] Ichingcarpenter Mar 2015 OP

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He did cali Mar 2015 #5

It looks like they were both right. Kalidurga Mar 2015 #2

this. n/t PowerToThePeople Mar 2015 #7

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Who? Octafish Mar 2015 #13

Quite a wonderful and accurate analysis. DeSwiss Mar 2015 #15

I think Terry Gilliam got pretty close in "Brazil" hunter Mar 2015 #17

A great and frighteningly prophetic film. hifiguy Mar 2015 #23

It's not that accurate a description of Brave New World muriel_volestrangler Mar 2015 #18

Read "The Doors of Perception". It will open your mind. McCamy Taylor Mar 2015 #19

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Bingo!!! roamer65 Mar 2015 #26

They were both right. raven mad Mar 2015 #25

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