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BainsBane

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262. The censorship is in your imagination

Tue Mar 31, 2015, 02:22 AM

Mar 2015

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and a deliberately false straw man. In fact it is a blatant lie that you have repeatedly been confronted on. I don't know whether it's because you are simply incapable of dealing with arguments above the most basic level or you are desperate to justify yourself, but either way, it's your problem. You long ago passed my boredom threshold with that bullshit.

I didn't even read past the subject line of your response to my linked post above. There is nothing more tedious than people who insist on making every discussion about themselves. I have no responsibility to cater to your ego.

As for your supposedly living in my head, you overrate your own importance. You don't live anywhere near me, not even in the same century.

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Has Has Senator Warren said anything about the Discrimination law passed in Indiana? [View all] William769 Mar 2015 OP

No links. leftofcool Mar 2015 #1

I can't find any either. William769 Mar 2015 #2

Nothing on google. hrmjustin Mar 2015 #3

Good question! NBachers Mar 2015 #4

And all I hear is crickets. William769 Mar 2015 #6

How do the crickets stand? Fore us or agin' us? NBachers Mar 2015 #8

As much as I admire Senator Warren on her Big Corporate Money stance, I find any libdem4life Mar 2015 #5

^^^This!^^^ Surya Gayatri Mar 2015 #249

Seems that if she was running, she'd make a statement of some kind. greatauntoftriplets Mar 2015 #7

True. William769 Mar 2015 #9

Depending on how people interpret the law, it could be used against virtually anyone. greatauntoftriplets Mar 2015 #10

The Warren supporters / Hillary haters at DU don't give a shit about equality... SidDithers Mar 2015 #61

I wouldn't go quite that far but some folks seems to lack the ability to focus... DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #88

maybe not all but it is true of certain ones JI7 Mar 2015 #102

no question about it. nt BainsBane Mar 2015 #131

Absolutely, unequivocally. And that has them lose credibility as true Liberals, imo. BlueCaliDem Mar 2015 #180

That's just silly. Major Hogwash Mar 2015 #142

Ri-fucking-diculous. 99Forever Mar 2015 #150

It's fucking true... SidDithers Mar 2015 #163

Way to double down on the... 99Forever Mar 2015 #164

And I see you are not disputing what Sid said. William769 Mar 2015 #166

Why would I bother "disputing" ri-fucking-diculous? 99Forever Mar 2015 #170

What he said is absolute obnoxious bullshit. It's really disgusting. Comrade Grumpy Mar 2015 #255

The truth hurts, eh?...nt SidDithers Mar 2015 #174

Actually this "thread" is an attack on Warren.. which devolved SomethingFishy Mar 2015 #183

Seems to me, that is the purpose of threads like this. Major Hogwash Mar 2015 #196

Nail/Hammer. sheshe2 Mar 2015 #253

While that is true, I admit I dont understand why she hasnt spoken out on this, I mean NoJusticeNoPeace Mar 2015 #178

BINGO, NJNP. It doesn't affect them so they just don't give a d**n. BlueCaliDem Mar 2015 #181

Wow, that's some low, ugly crap you're spewing. Comrade Grumpy Mar 2015 #209

How come it is easier to get Hollywood to come out on these issues betterdemsonly Mar 2015 #11

How does the election of a Governor in a State with less than 6 million people harm the Bluenorthwest Mar 2015 #13

Probably the same reason "Crash" won over "Brokeback Mountain" - closeupready Mar 2015 #116

We share a common enemy. DemocraticWing Mar 2015 #117

Discrimination and bigotry hurts all people with a conscience BainsBane Mar 2015 #132

I am not a white man. betterdemsonly Mar 2015 #157

That doesn't make your comment any less offensive BainsBane Mar 2015 #171

I think it is reactionary to piss on someone who represents the interests betterdemsonly Mar 2015 #172

+10000. So fucking transparent YoungDemCA Mar 2015 #231

"I can think of little more conservative that deciding basic civil rights are unimportant."... SidDithers Mar 2015 #252

I have also looked because of course she's now a Democrat, but she was a Republican for many Bluenorthwest Mar 2015 #12

... William769 Mar 2015 #14

+1 JustAnotherGen Mar 2015 #160

Warren, who was pro gay marriage years before Hillary and Obama? MannyGoldstein Mar 2015 #15

really? dsc Mar 2015 #16

Well we know of two people that were part of the Reagan years. William769 Mar 2015 #19

Disingenuous. She was not a public figure at that time so whatever she said Zorra Mar 2015 #20

"warren to Obama: Evolve already" Warren DeMontague Mar 2015 #66

that was march of 2012 dsc Mar 2015 #71

That doesn't indicate the earliest she held the position, only that she was challenging Obama at Warren DeMontague Mar 2015 #75

it doesn't work that way dsc Mar 2015 #76

Yes, it does. Warren DeMontague Mar 2015 #79

Warren voted for Reagan and Bush dsc Mar 2015 #83

And Hillary voted for Goldwater, and the Iraq War. Warren DeMontague Mar 2015 #86

if she voted for Goldwater it was illegal for her to do so dsc Mar 2015 #87

who wore patent leather shoes to the sock hop, that's the real question. Warren DeMontague Mar 2015 #129

I may or may not vote for Clinton dsc Mar 2015 #147

Ypur first problem here is the meme that you keep pushing William769 Mar 2015 #156

Really? Then what is with the hyperbolic Ralph nader "vote for HRC or else" stuff? Warren DeMontague Mar 2015 #245

Hillary was a self-proclaimed "Goldwater girl" brentspeak Mar 2015 #202

I am not saying she didn't support Goldwater dsc Mar 2015 #203

I am surprised you decided to partake in this thread. William769 Mar 2015 #204

Man, this thread really got to you, eh? zappaman Mar 2015 #213

Thanks for that link, zappaman! sheshe2 Mar 2015 #254

Hillary supported Eugene McCarthy in 1968 and was a TX organizer with Bill in 72 for George McGovern DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #93

the point is, if Hillary is such a great candidate, how about letting her win the primaries? Warren DeMontague Mar 2015 #128

Please review my posts... DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #145

Please read Warren's book "A Fighting Chance." She talks about her history and CTyankee Mar 2015 #206

Hillary wasn't old enough to vote for Goldwater. Cali_Democrat Mar 2015 #122

you are correct. Warren DeMontague Mar 2015 #127

I know you're a smart guy, Warren Cali_Democrat Mar 2015 #130

Believe me, whether or not I vote for HRC in the primaries will have nothing to do with her being a Warren DeMontague Mar 2015 #135

While we're all demanding links, do you have one? Jim Lane Mar 2015 #222

Do you have proof of that? hrmjustin Mar 2015 #35

... MannyGoldstein Mar 2015 #68

Thank you. hrmjustin Mar 2015 #70

You're welcome. nt MannyGoldstein Mar 2015 #78

That was from 2011. anything earlier? hrmjustin Mar 2015 #80

No, but that was soon after she declared her candidacy for the Senate MannyGoldstein Mar 2015 #81

So all we know is that she beat Hillary on this by a few months. hrmjustin Mar 2015 #85

A year and a half, at least. MannyGoldstein Mar 2015 #90

I am gay and have no problem supporting Hillary. hrmjustin Mar 2015 #91

I supported marriage equality in the freaking 70s./NT DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #94

And you can link to proof of that? MannyGoldstein Mar 2015 #99

I will sign an affidavit under penalty of perjury.../NT DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #105

not unless you are engaging in some new math dsc Mar 2015 #108

In the 90s, when her Chief of Staff started dating David Brock, HRC msanthrope Mar 2015 #184

I marched with her in 2001 in the pride parade. hrmjustin Mar 2015 #185

Always? ForgoTheConsequence Mar 2015 #189

Always. Let's not forget that many politicians...including msanthrope Mar 2015 #190

Instead of cherry picking let's do the whole thing, shall we? William769 Mar 2015 #191

that isn't even half a year since Obama dsc Mar 2015 #72

True, my bad. But Hillary took another year, IIRC MannyGoldstein Mar 2015 #77

so let me get this completely straight dsc Mar 2015 #82

SOSes don't take stands on domestic issues? MannyGoldstein Mar 2015 #92

yes seriously dsc Mar 2015 #95

How much will you pay me for each statement on a domestic issue MannyGoldstein Mar 2015 #98

she didn't make any dsc Mar 2015 #100

You get one freebie MannyGoldstein Mar 2015 #110

that isn't an issue dsc Mar 2015 #250

You are aware there is a long standing prractice of SOS not taking political stances in office? hrmjustin Mar 2015 #101

Someone needs to tell that to Hillary, e.g., MannyGoldstein Mar 2015 #111

She was asked a question as a member of the administration. hrmjustin Mar 2015 #112

You have a good point . I don't know why she hasn't made a statement. octoberlib Mar 2015 #17

That was nice back then. William769 Mar 2015 #18

I hear you. A " religious freedom bill" was proposed a octoberlib Mar 2015 #21

Right now we are look at up to 28 States with these laws. William769 Mar 2015 #23

Elizabeth Warren to Obama: Evolve already Zorra Mar 2015 #22

I saw that. William769 Mar 2015 #24

Maybe she has the flu? Maybe Goldman Sachs has her tied up in a basement somewhere? Zorra Mar 2015 #25

For the same reason her supporters keep posting bullshit here. William769 Mar 2015 #28

OK. Fair enough. Why do you think she has not issued a statement on this yet? Zorra Mar 2015 #31

Changing the subject does not alter the fact. William769 Mar 2015 #32

And which bull@#$% would that be? MannyGoldstein Mar 2015 #73

If Warren had a group that had already raised $700 million dollars for a campaign . . . Major Hogwash Mar 2015 #141

I have no doubt Senator Warren thinks the law is odious... DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #96

I have been working a lot of hours.... sheshe2 Mar 2015 #26

Hmmm~ William769 Mar 2015 #30

Tweet Of The Day: Hillary Clinton On Indiana Anti-Gay 'Religious Freedom' Law brooklynite Mar 2015 #27

And Hillary is just a private citizen & she had something to say. William769 Mar 2015 #29

LOL! joshcryer Mar 2015 #33

I'm glad she spoke up. Warren DeMontague Mar 2015 #55

Oh my God!!! paleotn Mar 2015 #34

You would be surprised how many have. William769 Mar 2015 #36

I just tweeted her and asked for a statement. octoberlib Mar 2015 #39

Good. William769 Mar 2015 #40

Don't forget your tinfoil hat.... paleotn Mar 2015 #47

Got numbers? paleotn Mar 2015 #44

Go to twitter get all the numbers there. William769 Mar 2015 #59

Riiiight! paleotn Mar 2015 #146

Give her time! joshcryer Mar 2015 #37

l'll be waiting with bated breath. William769 Mar 2015 #38

Ferguson comes to mind. joshcryer Mar 2015 #69

Maybe she hasnt felt a need to, since her record of supporting equality is unequivocal & consistent Warren DeMontague Mar 2015 #41

That's old news why not post Current news? William769 Mar 2015 #46

Right, the ACTUAL positions taken by Presidential Candidate Clinton in 2008 are totally irrelevant Warren DeMontague Mar 2015 #49

She is the one that said Gay rights are Human rights. William769 Mar 2015 #56

She's right. Warren DeMontague Mar 2015 #62

There are people who *claim* to support Liz Warren/Sanders/etc. in one breath... YoungDemCA Mar 2015 #233

Who on DU has dismissed marriage equality? Being anti marriage equality is against the TOS. Warren DeMontague Mar 2015 #247

Of course! paleotn Mar 2015 #53

Nope. Now I'll pose a question... obxhead Mar 2015 #42

Don't bother... Chan790 Mar 2015 #89

..... +10 840high Mar 2015 #113

I get it. 99Forever Mar 2015 #43

+10000 (nt) paleotn Mar 2015 #48

No one is asking you to so anything. William769 Mar 2015 #51

Well bless your heart. 99Forever Mar 2015 #58

Right back atcha. William769 Mar 2015 #60

Yessir. 99Forever Mar 2015 #65

I imagine you're not implying she's not a good democrat elias7 Mar 2015 #45

So I should give someone a pass when it comes to my civil rights William769 Mar 2015 #50

You mean like giving Hillary a pass for being anti-marriage equality until recently? Warren DeMontague Mar 2015 #52

As are most of the Anti Hillary threads in GD. William769 Mar 2015 #63

I'm apparently not allowed to go back in time to the IWR vote, which strikes me as way more relevant Warren DeMontague Mar 2015 #64

I have no problem going back to the IWR vote dsc Mar 2015 #103

Actually, that's a good question. Warren DeMontague Mar 2015 #126

Not only do they not hold it against others BainsBane Mar 2015 #136

If the "they" in question is me - logical to think, since the person you are responding to was Warren DeMontague Mar 2015 #138

Yes, we've been told it only effects a "very small percentage of the population" BainsBane Mar 2015 #133

"just about the entire country in that category" - speak for yourself. Warren DeMontague Mar 2015 #137

Ahead of your time? BainsBane Mar 2015 #182

Glad to make you laugh. Warren DeMontague Mar 2015 #246

Still waiting for the list of politicians who came out for marriage equality in the 80s and 90s BainsBane Mar 2015 #260

And I'm still waiting for your acknowledgement and apology for deliberately misrepresenting my Warren DeMontague Mar 2015 #261

The censorship is in your imagination BainsBane Mar 2015 #262

Well TL;DR, yourself. Warren DeMontague Mar 2015 #263

Of course not elias7 Mar 2015 #144

No. You should stand up for your civil rights instead of finding inferences to make DisgustipatedinCA Mar 2015 #210

We see this differently. William769 Mar 2015 #211

Fair enough. I'm glad Elizabeth Warren is on record as a strong proponent of LBGT rights. nt DisgustipatedinCA Mar 2015 #216

Shame on you. zappaman Mar 2015 #54

I <3 class warrior bullshit. NuclearDem Mar 2015 #57

Well it's been fun. William769 Mar 2015 #67

Senator Warren has consistently stood up for human rights. There totodeinhere Mar 2015 #74

Your point is made, and that's despite the flailings of some. stevenleser Mar 2015 #84

Sorry Steve, I just saw this. William769 Mar 2015 #217

Dunno, but they sure were raging on President Obama, Yesterday.. about not saying "one peep Cha Mar 2015 #97

As to your false charge of hypocrisy.... Jim Lane Mar 2015 #223

It's only "false" in the eyes of hypocrites. Cha Mar 2015 #224

Lovely circular reasoning. Jim Lane Mar 2015 #234

It's a fact. Cha Mar 2015 #243

Do you have any basis for that assertion? Jim Lane Mar 2015 #251

Wish I could kick this mcar Mar 2015 #227

Saying as someone who admires Senator Professor Warren but is tired of the hypocrisy on this board." Cha Mar 2015 #228

Greetings from Florida cha mcar Mar 2015 #229

Aloha from Kauai, mcar~ Cha Mar 2015 #244

Has Has Senator Warren said anything? Oilwellian Mar 2015 #104

In other words, when did she stop beating her husband? TM99 Mar 2015 #106

is this a Warren bashing thread? I'm getting that stench. Doctor_J Mar 2015 #107

Where is the bashing? William769 Mar 2015 #109

Your OP is very transparent and it 840high Mar 2015 #114

So are you saying that one is ok to ask but this one is not? William769 Mar 2015 #115

You have a right to ask 840high Mar 2015 #120

Thank you for your answer. William769 Mar 2015 #121

I luv ya William and hear ya, but we can NEVER trust 'straight' people closeupready Mar 2015 #118

No truer words spoken. William769 Mar 2015 #119

Warren comes across as a one trick pony Cali_Democrat Mar 2015 #123

"It�s up to us to make sure every child can walk down the street free from fear and distrust." winter is coming Mar 2015 #125

Just saw this though.. from Hillary in Tweet form.. Cha Mar 2015 #124

Bill, it only effects "a very small percentage of the population" BainsBane Mar 2015 #134

I agree, as I've already stated there can be no equality without civil rights. Major Hogwash Mar 2015 #140

This hardly constitutes trashing BainsBane Mar 2015 #169

Sadly you are correct. William769 Mar 2015 #155

That's one Jamaal510 Mar 2015 #139

I dunno, I like the idea of politicians as technocrats, not all-seeing oracles foo_bar Mar 2015 #143

What a particularly nasty post davidpdx Mar 2015 #148

I it's nasty then alert on it. William769 Mar 2015 #154

Nope, I rarely alert on things davidpdx Mar 2015 #158

You have your opinion and I have mine. William769 Mar 2015 #159

No, the way you are going after her out of spite is garbage when you well know it isn't true. davidpdx Mar 2015 #161

It's really quite simple. William769 Mar 2015 #162

Carry on with your spiteful witch hunt davidpdx Mar 2015 #220

I feel sorry for you because you cannot see the facts here. William769 Mar 2015 #221

What is your agenda? B Calm Mar 2015 #149

The same as everybody else's. William769 Mar 2015 #153

Yay for another year and a half of 'gotcha' politics postings! Erich Bloodaxe BSN Mar 2015 #151

Not to spend time on civil rights. William769 Mar 2015 #152

Don't know, I've been kinda busy.. What's Hillary said about it? 2banon Mar 2015 #165

It's already been posted in the thread just look. William769 Mar 2015 #167

No problem, I'm running several windows open, email fb etc. so I'm doing quick skims. thought you'd 2banon Mar 2015 #168

They don't need my help in doing that. William769 Mar 2015 #173

Has she taken a lot of donations from anti-gay groups? Has she said hater-bashing is wrong? Scuba Mar 2015 #175

Was that the Question? William769 Mar 2015 #176

I don't know. Something about this post was familiar, but then there was a serious disconnect. Scuba Mar 2015 #177

And the question still not answered. William769 Mar 2015 #179

Looks like you hit a nerve. hrmjustin Mar 2015 #186

You will never convince me to vote for your candidate by bashing other Democratic candidates. Major Hogwash Mar 2015 #187

I am not trying to convince you to do anything. William769 Mar 2015 #188

Wow, and all those thousands of anti-Clinton threads BainsBane Mar 2015 #239

". . . so disillusioned with Obama . . . " Major Hogwash Mar 2015 #242

Quite a few BainsBane Mar 2015 #258

Kick! zappaman Mar 2015 #192

What's so revealing? She's not running for president. B Calm Mar 2015 #193

I know, right? n/t zappaman Mar 2015 #195

I know this thread is showing us some right wing trolls with an agenda to divide. B Calm Mar 2015 #197

And the Hillary threads are not? William769 Mar 2015 #198

It really is something, ain't it? zappaman Mar 2015 #208

Yes it is. William769 Mar 2015 #212

and the Hillary threads too! B Calm Mar 2015 #225

If you say so! zappaman Mar 2015 #207

Because the right is all about gay rights BainsBane Mar 2015 #240

That's a very good question! I would expect a high profile Dem to make a comment. Rex Mar 2015 #194

Thank's Rex. William769 Mar 2015 #199

Legalized homophobia. Rex Mar 2015 #200

I will join you in that. William769 Mar 2015 #201

Oh dear! I went and read this thread! Some are mad at your Thought Provoking Exercise! Rex Mar 2015 #205

Can DU Hillary supporters actually drive people away from voting for her? Comrade Grumpy Mar 2015 #214

Sorry to see everyone is still avoiding the question. William769 Mar 2015 #215

Well, I take it she hasn't. So what? Does that disqualify her from something? Comrade Grumpy Mar 2015 #218

It was just a question. William769 Mar 2015 #219

Wow! hrmjustin Mar 2015 #226

Which people? Hillary is quite popular among the core Democratic constiuencies YoungDemCA Mar 2015 #230

LOL, that's almost verbatim what is posted about feminists here. R B Garr Mar 2015 #237

The Hillary haters certainly have succeeded in getting me to consider Clinton BainsBane Mar 2015 #238

Well, all the Warren supporters here are busy thanking Hilary for her words on this... joeybee12 Mar 2015 #232

What was the response from Senator Warren's staff when you contacted them with the same query? JackBeck Mar 2015 #235

if you didn't have a chance last week or over the weekend to call them JackBeck Mar 2015 #257

How about when you contacted them today? JackBeck Mar 2015 #264

What was her staff's response when you reached out to them today? JackBeck Apr 2015 #265

Blasphmer!!!! JoePhilly Mar 2015 #236

Exactly!!! BainsBane Mar 2015 #241

Why should she? Sen. Warren is obviously a homophobic rightwing religious right troll Douglas Carpenter Mar 2015 #248

I disagree. zappaman Mar 2015 #256

Trolling the trolls. randome Mar 2015 #259