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KingCharlemagne

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15. The second feature is even more damning than the first, imo:
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 09:43 AM
Mar 2015
Second, the Indiana statute explicitly makes a business’s “free exercise” right a defense against a private lawsuit by another person, rather than simply against actions brought by government. Why does this matter? Well, there’s a lot of evidence that the new wave of “religious freedom” legislation was impelled, at least in part, by a panic over a New Mexico state-court decision, Elane Photography v. Willock. In that case, a same-sex couple sued a professional photography studio that refused to photograph the couple’s wedding. New Mexico law bars discrimination in “public accommodations” on the basis of sexual orientation. The studio said that New Mexico’s RFRA nonetheless barred the suit; but the state’s Supreme Court held that the RFRA did not apply “because the government is not a party.”

Remarkably enough, soon after, language found its way into the Indiana statute to make sure that no Indiana court could ever make a similar decision. Democrats also offered the Republican legislative majority a chance to amend the new act to say that it did not permit businesses to discriminate; they voted that amendment down.


Thanks for posting this clearly explained analysis and take-down of homophobic bigotry.

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Joe of Morming Joe asked "why Indiana ... [View all] 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2015 OP
I saw that and wanted to throw something at the screen. octoberlib Mar 2015 #1
Yeah, I saw that this moning, was a total WTF. These people are stupid, ignorant and DUH *or* they RKP5637 Mar 2015 #3
Once you see Nicole Wallace sitting there withher stupid grin you know that CTyankee Mar 2015 #61
I am surprised that anyone on this forum would watch the asshole. olegramps Mar 2015 #21
all deliberately obtuse AlbertCat Mar 2015 #24
You watch that crap? Scuba Mar 2015 #2
You deserve what you get if you do. TheCowsCameHome Mar 2015 #6
Yes ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2015 #36
exactly! It was great when Malloy gave him "what for"... CTyankee Mar 2015 #59
It's the only talking point they have DefenseLawyer Mar 2015 #4
The Faux News talking point. They know their viewers are too stupid to google LynneSin Mar 2015 #18
And I ask TheCowsCameHome Mar 2015 #5
I watch it if they have somebody on I want to see. octoberlib Mar 2015 #8
I watch it most mornings, as I drink my coffee and take care of my dogs ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2015 #37
I admire your fortitude. TheCowsCameHome Mar 2015 #38
Yeah, well, there's the benefit of having a good yell at the TV set and calling CTyankee Mar 2015 #58
opposition research. you do have to be in the right mindset yodermon Mar 2015 #55
Opposition research nt One of the 99 Mar 2015 #56
What Makes Indiana's Religious-Freedom Law Different?-from The Atlantic Bluenorthwest Mar 2015 #7
The second feature is even more damning than the first, imo: KingCharlemagne Mar 2015 #15
+1000 for the Atlantic mountain grammy Mar 2015 #22
+1 gollygee Mar 2015 #27
The governor of Maryland sure set Joe and the bunch straight later on. Gidney N Cloyd Mar 2015 #9
Why Indiana WHAT, Joe? Orsino Mar 2015 #10
The goal of Morning Joe is to peddle misinformation and provide City Lights Mar 2015 #11
... because Indiana's law written almost immediately after the Feds made same-sex marriage legal, & Myrina Mar 2015 #12
It's more like Hobby Lobby and the TV talkers also aren't bring up the roomful of goons who appalachiablue Mar 2015 #64
Suggestion for talking point(s) in response to anyone parroting 'Why Indiana?" - something along KingCharlemagne Mar 2015 #13
It's comforting to know that Joe is virtually unwatched. His show is getting about 330,000 total Bluenorthwest Mar 2015 #14
The #1 show on TV as far as ratings is "Spongebob Squarepants"..... Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2015 #31
After that SAE/Waka Flocka debacle, does anybody really think that any discussion on that show about Chakab Mar 2015 #16
Seriously, it took me about 5 minutes of googling to answer that question LynneSin Mar 2015 #17
OK, I'll say it. world wide wally Mar 2015 #19
Their propaganda was more convincing. Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2015 #29
Blah, blah, blah is still blah, blah, blah world wide wally Mar 2015 #32
Maybe Joe should grow a mustache. Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2015 #35
C'mon! There's a HUGE difference between this and 1930' Germany! SpankMe Mar 2015 #30
Well, when the bullshit propaganda smells too much they can now deflect with plane crash coverage? Fred Sanders Mar 2015 #48
Because it is 2015 Not Me Mar 2015 #20
No watch Morning Right Wing talk show tomsaiditagain Mar 2015 #23
The man is a hack. mountain grammy Mar 2015 #25
I don't understand your post. You do know Indiana's law is different than the others right? riderinthestorm Mar 2015 #26
Yes, I know the laws are different ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2015 #45
The intent was to protect Native American use of peyote in their religious practices riderinthestorm Mar 2015 #47
The intent of the FEDERAL law was to protect Native American religious practices ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2015 #57
No. You are so wrong and can't even produce evidence of that riderinthestorm Mar 2015 #65
I don't understand what the beef is here ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2015 #66
You've said all the other state laws are like Jim Crow riderinthestorm Mar 2015 #67
Do you doubt that States with similar "Religious Freedom Laws" ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2015 #68
Yup. I live in IL. You are so wrong. Get educated nt riderinthestorm Mar 2015 #69
Well then "educate" me. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2015 #70
They're in a bubble of their own talking points.... Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2015 #28
Not shocked, Republicans don't get it. tridim Mar 2015 #33
Republicans care about wealthy people and white, Christian men. No one else really. nt stillwaiting Mar 2015 #43
I don't know about that either. This bill is causing rich, white people to lose real money. tridim Mar 2015 #50
Every average Joe knows "similar" is not the same as "same"! Words are important, Joe. Fred Sanders Mar 2015 #34
And people sit there soaking it all in from the lips of another fucking tool world wide wally Mar 2015 #39
Not the Image HassleCat Mar 2015 #40
+1. Welcome. Ed Suspicious Mar 2015 #44
White people (not all white people) in lots of states are electing crazy people to represent them. stillwaiting Mar 2015 #46
What about that dead intern, Joe? Liberalagogo Mar 2015 #41
We can't have a moment of national decency, can we. They immediately start setting up Ed Suspicious Mar 2015 #42
If only people cared a tenth as much about discriminatory laws passed every single cali Mar 2015 #49
I have wondered about that too. The answer I've heard back is that gay CTyankee Mar 2015 #53
People do care ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2015 #63
The Indiana law is very different from Federal or other state laws Gothmog Mar 2015 #51
You ask the right question. mmonk Mar 2015 #52
I see some people are still watching 'morning Joke'. Stellar Mar 2015 #54
I don't approve of the law. mstinamotorcity2 Mar 2015 #60
Have an idea. Why not agree with him...and just go the hell after the other libdem4life Mar 2015 #62
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