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JonLP24

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49. It is #1 on my list

Tue Mar 31, 2015, 12:48 PM

Mar 2015

I badly want foreign policy to be reformed but I'm not sure where most potential candidates stand on those issues but I know enough about Hillary Clinton to know she'll continue to take us in the wrong direction. There are her 2003 Iraq war speeches. She also said it in a somewhat recent article that US would have been better able to tell whose arming the ISIS rebels rather than the regular rebels if we had "skin in the game" meaning if we were arms trafficking we could tell whose arming who. Not only it wasn't true given that Frontline & others reported that the CIA flew them out of Turkey to Qatar to train & arm rebels (they asked screening questions but I'm sure terror groups w/ experience in dealing with spies know how to pretend to be someone else for US top shelf equipment) but a statement such as "skin in the game" has bad idea written all over it.

That is another thing. "Gun control" means something completely different outside our borders.

Had to let that out, I agree great thread K&R & agree with most of the responses as well.

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