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happyslug

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138. Sorry I practice in Pennsylvania, I have seen Landlord get away with renting bad housing.

Tue Mar 31, 2015, 11:39 PM

Mar 2015

Local government just refuses to crack down on them, and it is the local government that has the duty to provide such inspections and close down such housing.

The State Legislature has REFUSED to give magistrate the right to close down such housing, saying it is up to the Tenant NOT to rent such uninhabitable housing.

Now, there is a movement to crack down on such bad housing, but it includes fees for inspections and registration of rental units within Municipalities. This option is spreading but a lot of landlords oppose such licensing for most landlords are almost as poor as the people they are renting to. Being a landlord when it comes to low rental housing is NOT what the wealthy invest it, it ends up being someone not making much more money then the tenant who is renting a house, they obtain the rental units cheaply, often by inheritance, but once they own the rental unit such landlords rarely can sell it for no one wants it OR the value is so low that the closing costs exceeds the value of the rental unit.

Thus low income rental units are owned by very marginal landlords who often are one step away from abandoning the property they are renting out. You run up to much of a fee, the house will just be abandoned and the municipality will have to tear it down when the rental unit becomes to bad.

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OMG I'm going to be thrown into the street! [View all] TorchTheWitch Mar 2015 OP

Call Catholic Charities. It's what they do. Lochloosa Mar 2015 #1

+1--also the methodists librechik Apr 2015 #305

This thread, tbis post, it needs to end. 7wo7rees Apr 2015 #410

I'm not sure why you responded to my post in this manner. Lochloosa Apr 2015 #414

So sad to hear that.... mylye2222 Mar 2015 #2

Is there a neighbor, friend or relative you could stay with temporarily or who CTyankee Mar 2015 #3

+1, check with friends and relatives for help, that is one of the first things to do dissentient Mar 2015 #20

been there done that TorchTheWitch Mar 2015 #22

Keep trying Catholic Charities...I cannot believe they would totally desert the homeless CTyankee Mar 2015 #32

I'll be trying them again tomorrow TorchTheWitch Mar 2015 #47

so far I can't find anything on the website for help TorchTheWitch Mar 2015 #60

The site worked fine for me. cwydro Mar 2015 #121

Go Fund Me is about people donating to you. merrily Apr 2015 #157

Have you ASKED your family for help? missingthebigdog Mar 2015 #132

Yes, I asked. I BEGGED TorchTheWitch Apr 2015 #165

pls send your addy again, I got some money leftover irisblue Mar 2015 #4

God almighty she's doing it again! TorchTheWitch Mar 2015 #5

Stay strong my friend... mylye2222 Mar 2015 #6

Set up a GoFundMe site for $2000. That's nothing. You'll... JaneyVee Mar 2015 #7

Absolutely, set it up & you'll get 2K fast, saw it before. We're here for you, NOW. appalachiablue Mar 2015 #15

I have a paypal account - would gofundme be better? TorchTheWitch Mar 2015 #18

Check with #7. I'm not tech smart. Maybe both, unless confusing. appalachiablue Mar 2015 #25

Ok, I have to use my real name at gofundme TorchTheWitch Mar 2015 #116

Here is another DUer that needed help Omaha Steve Mar 2015 #120

All you have to do... It is Tuesday Mar 2015 #125

Do you want help or to simply whinge? riderinthestorm Mar 2015 #127

DU helped me when I was in trouble! Marrah_G Apr 2015 #160

I'm a bit puzzled as to why you are trying so hard to SheilaT Mar 2015 #8

because I have nowhere to go TorchTheWitch Mar 2015 #17

Set up a GoFundMe It is Tuesday Mar 2015 #24

appealing is what I'd like to do TorchTheWitch Mar 2015 #36

Wait a minute... pipi_k Mar 2015 #134

I think that one was a paypal account Sissyk Mar 2015 #137

It says gofundme? merrily Apr 2015 #158

i never used gofundme then TorchTheWitch Apr 2015 #163

OK I just reread that thread again pipi_k Apr 2015 #172

That is a good strategy for evaluating JimDandy Apr 2015 #213

Here is what I know... pipi_k Apr 2015 #274

Yes, and as another poster pointed out. cwydro Apr 2015 #220

Sorry I don't buy this bs story ... sunnystarr Apr 2015 #248

How did she get you fired? cwydro Mar 2015 #89

all the stuff falling apart here that I had to deal with TorchTheWitch Apr 2015 #152

How did pipi_k Apr 2015 #173

Looks like a year of unemployment. cwydro Apr 2015 #240

When you have a water heater blow up Texasgal Apr 2015 #253

When there's an emergency like that pipi_k Apr 2015 #271

Going from memory Boudica the Lyoness Apr 2015 #268

Yep, and she bragged about what great money she was making and not tied to a lease so... bettyellen Apr 2015 #272

Idon't think any of this is true. cwydro Apr 2015 #278

True pipi_k Apr 2015 #273

Right. A bowl of hot water and a washcloth: great-grandma's bath. Or a box of baby wipes.... Hekate Apr 2015 #471

Baby wipes cannot wash your hair, though. noella17 Apr 2015 #476

Nobody was suggesting 'washing' hair with baby wipes. Boudica the Lyoness Apr 2015 #477

Some people are more vulnerable to stress. noella17 Apr 2015 #478

I mentioned that I was young and healthy during my awful crisis. Boudica the Lyoness Apr 2015 #480

Exactly so. TY Boudica for understanding what I was saying. Hekate Apr 2015 #481

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Where on earth are you renting an apartment in Delaware County for almost $2000/month??? CreekDog Apr 2015 #210

Unrelated to your comment...but thought you might like to know Veilex Apr 2015 #216

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I will send best energy to you if that's okay with you. Somebody on DU must have suggestions. KittyWampus Mar 2015 #9

If you have to pay 2000 to stay can you just move JI7 Mar 2015 #10

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that's the judge's judgment including "costs" TorchTheWitch Mar 2015 #33

i think moving out is best. either way you will have to pay JI7 Mar 2015 #45

if I had the money to move out I'd be running out of here with my hair on fire TorchTheWitch Mar 2015 #46

use the Money people will send on go fund me JI7 Mar 2015 #48

But I still need a job TorchTheWitch Mar 2015 #52

Pound the pavement? cwydro Mar 2015 #117

Is there a compelling reason to stay in the area? seveneyes Mar 2015 #51

if I could move anywhere to keep a roof over my head I would TorchTheWitch Mar 2015 #56

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Look on or advertise on craigslist Politicalboi Mar 2015 #126

Look in the ads for someone that needs help in an already rented place Omaha Steve Apr 2015 #184

Wish there was more I could do to help Liberalynn Mar 2015 #12

I called a few Catholic churches today but so far can't get anyone on the phone TorchTheWitch Mar 2015 #19

Emotion diminishes to the square root of the distance doubled seveneyes Mar 2015 #58

Hope you can find a safe place for you and your dog. Holy cow. glinda Mar 2015 #13

Here is the original post from 2-13-15 that will answer a lot of questions Omaha Steve Mar 2015 #14

Thanks for the link. nt cwydro Mar 2015 #79

We have 2-1-1 service here in Canada inanna Mar 2015 #16

We have 211 daredtowork Apr 2015 #459

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that's not the rent TorchTheWitch Mar 2015 #26

It's easy for people to be cruel and heartless from behind a screen. ScreamingMeemie Mar 2015 #30

Post removed Post removed Mar 2015 #34

Yes, same apartment from the other thread, Dick Tracy. Moosepoop Mar 2015 #41

Awwww... I thought no one else used the term "Dick Tracy" anymore. ScreamingMeemie Mar 2015 #73

Between that, and "Perry Mason"... Moosepoop Mar 2015 #85

it's a rowhouse not an apartment TorchTheWitch Mar 2015 #65

stable housing is #1 priority, I think, to get back on your feet. grasswire Mar 2015 #78

So you are unable to get cwydro Mar 2015 #90

Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2015 #462

Holy CRAP... ScreamingMeemie Mar 2015 #71

He/she enjoys it. Texasgal Mar 2015 #75

... cyberswede Mar 2015 #81

I think we are a picture of American Society yeoman6987 Mar 2015 #27

It depends on where you live. ScreamingMeemie Mar 2015 #28

That was a rude (and incorrect!) comment. Arugula Latte Mar 2015 #29

Well, I remember that thread too. cwydro Mar 2015 #38

$2,000 was not the amount she pays for rent as the poster asserted. Arugula Latte Apr 2015 #181

I know, cwydro Apr 2015 #183

My bro pays that much PasadenaTrudy Mar 2015 #31

and you have a very appropriate screen name nt LiberalElite Mar 2015 #40

amazed how some people with 51 posts can't read properly and are mean to boot ND-Dem Mar 2015 #49

As am I amazed by returning trolls LanternWaste Apr 2015 #201

...why not just be direct, like the others on your team? ND-Dem Apr 2015 #203

+1...nt SidDithers Apr 2015 #432

Yup. zappaman Apr 2015 #434

Fuck off, idiot. Hissyspit Mar 2015 #54

Yup. Agschmid Mar 2015 #61

I hope the jurors agree! Texasgal Mar 2015 #64

one did JanMichael Mar 2015 #67

Possibly two.... truebrit71 Mar 2015 #70

interesting JanMichael Mar 2015 #72

Not this time... Fearless Mar 2015 #77

I think it is sad that you feel the need to dig at a moment like this. hrmjustin Mar 2015 #63

Good Lord, Torch!!! Moosepoop Mar 2015 #35

+1. TorchTheWitch is one of the good guys here. closeupready Mar 2015 #50

Here are a couple of potential resources suffragette Mar 2015 #37

You have 4 days to vacate, is that correct? Her harassing you will not change that, right? Jefferson23 Mar 2015 #39

This seems like an easy problem. metroins Mar 2015 #42

"Get rid of your pet" Hissyspit Mar 2015 #53

still your stuff, get rid of your pet, move into your car, join a gym get a job? uppityperson Mar 2015 #57

But "no offense, that's what I would do" Hissyspit Mar 2015 #59

"an easy problem" uppityperson Mar 2015 #69

I kept waiting for "bootstraps, baby..." ScreamingMeemie Mar 2015 #74

Post removed Post removed Mar 2015 #108

"I don't see what the problem is..." ScreamingMeemie Mar 2015 #129

Post removed Post removed Apr 2015 #168

2 posts? and telling somebody just to move into their car? Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #166

Well thanks for your advice Texasgal Mar 2015 #66

Oh mirt, clean up on aisle 5. hrmjustin Mar 2015 #68

No kidding Aerows Mar 2015 #84

it is a shame that newbie did that. hrmjustin Mar 2015 #86

"that's what I would do" ? Half-Century Man Mar 2015 #111

You seem to think it is so easy, don't you? nruthie Mar 2015 #122

I am guessing you are a sociopath Skittles Apr 2015 #403

A Narcissist, a Psychopath and a Machiavellian Walk into a Bar� Ellipsis Apr 2015 #420

Getting rid of a pet would be like getting rid of a child. Most of us are that attached to tblue37 Apr 2015 #463

Sadly, this is about the gist of it daredtowork Apr 2015 #484

Thank you for all of your posts. JTFrog Apr 2015 #485

Set up a GoFundMe account. We'll get the $$ there in hours riderinthestorm Mar 2015 #43

That sounds like a good idea, rider. stage left Mar 2015 #76

+100 Sissyk Mar 2015 #80

This. Agschmid Mar 2015 #105

This is a terrific idea, rider... ScreamingMeemie Mar 2015 #133

It seems like they don't want to do that because then they would have to use their real name dissentient Apr 2015 #153

Their real name will not show to the public Marrah_G Apr 2015 #200

TTW's been told this numerous times on this thread riderinthestorm Apr 2015 #211

Really, I would also think the time spent composing the long litanies of excuses cwydro Apr 2015 #242

HELP Philadelphia II Genesis Square Apartments Jefferson23 Mar 2015 #44

Here is the number for the 24 hour help line of Philadelphia's Catholic social services. pnwmom Mar 2015 #55

TTW! Texasgal Mar 2015 #62

My PayPal = mytwowings@yahoo.com TorchTheWitch Mar 2015 #88

Is there a reason in 6 weeks time why you haven't opened a gofundme account? Omaha Steve Mar 2015 #91

I think the issue is privacy. Texasgal Mar 2015 #95

Some us find the transparency that GoFundMe provides to be helpful. Agschmid Mar 2015 #101

Go fund me doesn't reveal private info Omaha Steve Mar 2015 #106

Honey, get some rest. Texasgal Mar 2015 #93

You describe Yoshi a large dog... It is Tuesday Mar 2015 #97

If you go to the pets group there are Texasgal Mar 2015 #102

Thanks for the suggestion It is Tuesday Mar 2015 #103

Yoshi is a beautiful dog! It is Tuesday Mar 2015 #107

Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2015 #82

None of this is how evictions work. LeftyMom Mar 2015 #83

You cant possibly be serious!!! darkangel218 Mar 2015 #92

this eviction seems to be going as fast as some correspondence nursing schools we've read about here CreekDog Apr 2015 #205

:rofl: Heddi Apr 2015 #215

Why are you making shit up about my education??? darkangel218 Apr 2015 #219

Wait a minute, you went to one of those? CreekDog Apr 2015 #221

This message was self-deleted by its author darkangel218 Apr 2015 #222

Keep making shit up. darkangel218 Apr 2015 #224

This is all you're doing in this thread pintobean Apr 2015 #225

Juror 5 is a fool. Agschmid Apr 2015 #226

I'm not skeptical at all. Texasgal Mar 2015 #94

There is a link in a post upthread that shows otherwise. Lex Mar 2015 #98

the poster has been here since 2003. 12 years. just two years less than yourself, so maybe ND-Dem Mar 2015 #130

You originally said a "DU'er that has never spammed this board" Lex Apr 2015 #147

i think you've confused me with someone else. i have three posts on this entire OP, and ND-Dem Apr 2015 #148

This message was self-deleted by its author Lex Apr 2015 #214

so, you deleted your response to me, but not this one, where you falsely accuse me of saying ND-Dem Apr 2015 #237

Settle down. Lex Apr 2015 #258

Thank you, but you were not "clearly" replying to Texasgal at all. You replied to *me*. ND-Dem Apr 2015 #259

I quoted what she said Lex Apr 2015 #262

You replied to ME. So I was not butting in and had no obligation to check your previous posts. ND-Dem Apr 2015 #264

Go away. Lex Apr 2015 #266

Ha! alcibiades_mystery Apr 2015 #378

wtf is wrong with you? Capt. Obvious Apr 2015 #486

Yes, Clearly. Texasgal Apr 2015 #261

Maybe not spamming Lex Apr 2015 #265

So length phil89 Apr 2015 #195

I don't know if it's true, but anyone can look back through TTW's old posts to see if she ND-Dem Apr 2015 #197

I have to admit cwydro Mar 2015 #96

Also REP Mar 2015 #104

Longtime DUer or not. cwydro Mar 2015 #109

Bad things do happen REP Mar 2015 #110

For that matter, the story about the inspection makes no sense. LeftyMom Mar 2015 #112

I'm used to escrow being used in cases of inhabitability/unuseable facilities REP Mar 2015 #119

Sorry I practice in Pennsylvania, I have seen Landlord get away with renting bad housing. happyslug Mar 2015 #138

I just don't understand how TTW was fired cwydro Mar 2015 #113

If I read the first thread right REP Mar 2015 #115

I've done that too. cwydro Mar 2015 #118

... well yeah ... REP Mar 2015 #128

Or followed through with legal aide even though the person was unpleasant, bettyellen Apr 2015 #144

I won't give my opinion on that. REP Apr 2015 #146

Once lived in a walk-up, cold-water maid's room on the 7th floor here in Paris. Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #169

When I moved back to NC from FL cwydro Apr 2015 #186

I've bathed in frigid mountain streams and an unheated, freezing Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #189

I completely agree. cwydro Apr 2015 #190

Well I'm glad pipi_k Mar 2015 #135

cripes, he wouldn't even let me SPEAK! TorchTheWitch Apr 2015 #191

May I respectfully suggest you stop re-writing this story and get packing riderinthestorm Apr 2015 #196

No it's not. ieoeja Apr 2015 #212

+1 REP Mar 2015 #99

Actaully in Pennsylvania it can be as short as 35 days. happyslug Mar 2015 #136

Yep. n/t COLGATE4 Mar 2015 #139

As a landlord lancer78 Apr 2015 #156

I've seen the problems pipi_k Apr 2015 #277

This message was self-deleted by its author woolldog Apr 2015 #460

Sorry, but I am very skeptical of this story. nt LexVegas Mar 2015 #100

I'm sorry to hear of your plight. I wish I could help. Half-Century Man Mar 2015 #114

Sending good thoughts your way TDale313 Mar 2015 #123

Pennyslvania has a Rule, that Magistrate do NOT have to listen to habitability issues if rent is due happyslug Mar 2015 #124

Are you a tenant law attorney licensed in PA? It is Tuesday Mar 2015 #131

I live in the Western Part of Pennsylvania, she lives 5-6 hours away from me. happyslug Mar 2015 #140

Surely you know one or two up in that area that might help her? It is Tuesday Mar 2015 #141

I told her to contact her Legal Aid office, and she did happyslug Mar 2015 #142

She asked for money from DU cwydro Apr 2015 #143

No, she said she owed for months but that if she got the money for one month Yo_Mama Apr 2015 #150

The problem is that she doesn't have a case - she has to pay the rent or go. Yo_Mama Apr 2015 #149

+1 F4lconF16 Apr 2015 #155

your clarification is much appreciated. grasswire Apr 2015 #159

Excellent post. +1 Lex Apr 2015 #177

+1 PasadenaTrudy Apr 2015 #207

So this four days is unlikely. REP Apr 2015 #145

Well, it's the balance of the first ten day period. Yo_Mama Apr 2015 #151

It still seems she has another 25 day period before she is evicted REP Apr 2015 #154

Here's what I'm having trouble understanding. SheilaT Apr 2015 #161

I'm not going to alert on your post. grasswire Apr 2015 #164

Why don't you address the points in his post? phil89 Apr 2015 #239

Nailed it- she has ignored all links to help.... bettyellen Apr 2015 #247

I'm not a particularly suspicious person in this kind of situation. grasswire Apr 2015 #250

I don't want to help someone stay in crisis REP Apr 2015 #251

nor do I want to help someone stay in crisis grasswire Apr 2015 #252

So it's a good lesson to all of us. Don't let things get to this point. Demit Apr 2015 #254

You're presupposing it isn't a scam. phil89 Apr 2015 #256

you are right grasswire Apr 2015 #260

Then you don't care if it's a scam phil89 Apr 2015 #303

even assuming it's all true i can't see any good reason to pay to stay in that place JI7 Apr 2015 #267

Here's hoping you don't get any emails from a Nigerian prince in the future arcane1 Apr 2015 #364

My concern over being scammed phil89 Apr 2015 #255

I also always give without strings or worry Mojorabbit May 2015 #489

found on google grasswire Apr 2015 #162

She's in Philadelphia. Sheldon Cooper Apr 2015 #167

Oh FUCK - gofundme takes 5 to 7 business days to pay out the money you raise TorchTheWitch Apr 2015 #170

So does PayPal, you had that problem last time...MOVE OUT Omaha Steve Apr 2015 #171

It sounds like TTW needs some tough love here. And may be in denial. Lack of sleep, stress KittyWampus Apr 2015 #175

Good advice. cwydro Apr 2015 #179

At some point you have to start making rational decisions. MOVE OUT! Stop thinking of paying KittyWampus Apr 2015 #174

Try this website Marrah_G Apr 2015 #199

In my humble opinion, the people on this thread who are doubting the OP Jenny Red Eye Apr 2015 #176

The OP posted on a discussion board. cwydro Apr 2015 #180

Well, Jenny... pipi_k Apr 2015 #182

Well put. cwydro Apr 2015 #185

Jenny has been here 20 days. CreekDog Apr 2015 #209

And what does it matter if the poster has been here ony 20 days?? darkangel218 Apr 2015 #223

She could have been lurking for 10 years - who knows? LiberalElite Apr 2015 #412

Sure, but she doesn't earn credibility with us based on "could haves" CreekDog Apr 2015 #413

+100 ND-Dem Apr 2015 #192

Using critical thinking phil89 Apr 2015 #194

kindly said, Jenny grasswire Apr 2015 #198

Thanks, grasswire. Jenny Red Eye Apr 2015 #232

You think being progressive precludes expressing disbelief? I never heard that. Demit Apr 2015 #202

You said that very well. cwydro Apr 2015 #204

Tomorrow you will have been a DU member for 3 weeks CreekDog Apr 2015 #208

Your results are in and they look good. Rex Apr 2015 #217

Time on DU has nothing to 840high Apr 2015 #418

I live in Florida and am a property manager. NCTraveler Apr 2015 #178

Family?!?! AMAR0113 Apr 2015 #187

I'd start packing, get the car fixed, MineralMan Apr 2015 #188

I notice you post phil89 Apr 2015 #193

I agree. After reading through all the posts I have to COLGATE4 Apr 2015 #218

Yes, though skepticism needn't preclude empathy... HereSince1628 Apr 2015 #228

I'm not yet convinced of the sincerity of the COLGATE4 Apr 2015 #229

I understand. I think that's valid. Even with such doubt empathy is possible HereSince1628 Apr 2015 #231

Here's where things stand now TorchTheWitch Apr 2015 #227

No way to get the money faster. Agschmid Apr 2015 #233

Are you still fighting to stay in this dump? Bay Boy Apr 2015 #234

This isn't meant to be mean... metalbot Apr 2015 #235

Stop wasting time on dreaming about the appeal working. Set up the gofundme page- KittyWampus Apr 2015 #236

I have to get the tires on the car fixed first seveneyes Apr 2015 #246

You really need to get the hell out of Dodge. AtomicKitten Apr 2015 #249

Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2015 #461

Here is where many Duers are on this NOT ONE DIME to appeal or keep you living there!!! Omaha Steve Apr 2015 #230

I came home to lots of email on this while I was gone Omaha Steve Apr 2015 #257

I know you donated previously, cwydro Apr 2015 #270

It isn't pretty Omaha Steve Apr 2015 #275

Oh wow. cwydro Apr 2015 #276

WTF???? pipi_k Apr 2015 #279

I also wonder why the OP never invoked the Rocket_Scientist65 Apr 2015 #285

CHECK THIS OUT (caps on purpose) cwydro Apr 2015 #286

??????? pipi_k Apr 2015 #287

So what? herding cats Apr 2015 #288

I read through the entire thread. cwydro Apr 2015 #289

I read it as well. herding cats Apr 2015 #291

You're certainly welcome cwydro Apr 2015 #294

I'm not going to alert. herding cats Apr 2015 #296

These links were sent to me while I was pming about this odd request for money cwydro Apr 2015 #317

^This. ScreamingMeemie Apr 2015 #299

+1!!!! tammywammy Apr 2015 #300

That was just braggadocio. Demit Apr 2015 #301

Could be. cwydro Apr 2015 #333

Yes she's made no bones about being a stripper. Has been for as long as she's been on DU riderinthestorm Apr 2015 #293

Yes there is another pintobean Apr 2015 #302

In the previous thread, cwydro Apr 2015 #350

It's quite possible. Obviously people can make large career changes riderinthestorm Apr 2015 #358

Certainly, a person can change jobs. cwydro Apr 2015 #383

I actually remember reading that back in the day , there's nothing to it Ellipsis Apr 2015 #394

PS...how did you find out? pipi_k Apr 2015 #280

I learned a few things when I worked for the Omaha Police Dept before retiring last November Omaha Steve Apr 2015 #282

Gotta feeling we won't hear from her. cwydro Apr 2015 #283

the assholes at a Conservative website are following this thread. So they probably screwed KittyWampus Apr 2015 #292

What causes a fraud watch on a PayPal account? herding cats Apr 2015 #290

This is going the very same direction that the Andy thing did. ScreamingMeemie Apr 2015 #297

I thought that may be how it worked herding cats Apr 2015 #307

I donated a dollar pipi_k Apr 2015 #298

About PayPal fraud watch: the money DU donated for Andy Stephenson's operation was tblue37 Apr 2015 #464

TY for the info, Steve. You have credibility here, and I know you and Marta have kind hearts. nt Hekate Apr 2015 #474

In general all of us are willing to help. We help with causes large and small daily. lumberjack_jeff Apr 2015 #377

Shorter everybody: Cut bait. Demit Apr 2015 #238

Assuming all of this is true, I'd listen to what many duers are saying. Don't use any money to dissentient Apr 2015 #241

Looks like you have an ongoing problem sunnystarr Apr 2015 #243

The OP's paypal account is under fraud watch. cwydro Apr 2015 #281

Don't appeal and don't pay her. tammywammy Apr 2015 #244

Post removed Post removed Apr 2015 #245

This will be my one and only post on this subject. NaturalHigh Apr 2015 #263

I usually do not comment on threads like this PersonNumber503602 Apr 2015 #269

TTW, you need to answer the questions that keep coming up re your many stories. cwydro Apr 2015 #284

***Someone said almost the exact same thing to Andy back in the day*** ScreamingMeemie Apr 2015 #295

^^This^^ JTFrog Apr 2015 #304

Me too. I understand the well-intentioned worry, but the Internet sleuthing ScreamingMeemie Apr 2015 #313

These links were sent to me from other DUers. cwydro Apr 2015 #315

I don't do alerting. ScreamingMeemie Apr 2015 #379

Well, if you're inferring cwydro Apr 2015 #380

Why would you think that? I merely stated what can happen, that it has happened here, ScreamingMeemie Apr 2015 #382

Absolutely. cwydro Apr 2015 #384

DUers offered her a place to stay and $ in that same creepy post Omaha Steve Apr 2015 #389

You completely misunderstood me if cwydro Apr 2015 #397

LOL Omaha Steve Apr 2015 #399

Thanks for this. cwydro Apr 2015 #409

Another stupid alert crushed~ RiverLover Apr 2015 #427

Lol. Thanks for sharing. pintobean Apr 2015 #429

I don't remember saying what the synopsis says Omaha Steve Apr 2015 #430

... cwydro Apr 2015 #431

That was my take on it as well pipi_k Apr 2015 #424

I know. cwydro Apr 2015 #425

hahaha!!! pipi_k Apr 2015 #428

I'm not sure about the Andy situation Jenny Red Eye Apr 2015 #306

People are allowed to be interested in this, as a morality tale. Demit Apr 2015 #308

Have you been participating in the dredging up of old posts? nt. ScreamingMeemie Apr 2015 #309

A month ago, or a decade ago? pintobean Apr 2015 #314

Here's the thing. I still don't see a gun pointed at anyone's head. ScreamingMeemie Apr 2015 #320

Yes, we're all grown ups. We work hard for our money. pintobean Apr 2015 #323

So, take a breath, hide the thread, and move on. ScreamingMeemie Apr 2015 #331

Relieve yourself from attitude patrol. pintobean Apr 2015 #337

Exactly. Hey! cwydro Apr 2015 #353

if the current posting style is different from the past it is relevant CreekDog Apr 2015 #360

Comprehension fail. pintobean Apr 2015 #363

oh? then where has she gone? CreekDog Apr 2015 #392

It's as if you keep replying to the wrong person. pintobean Apr 2015 #393

Perhaps she has better things to do then read a bunch of bullshit theories... Ellipsis Apr 2015 #395

She was offered a place to stay and more Omaha Steve Apr 2015 #400

This message was self-deleted by its author Ellipsis Apr 2015 #401

I remember the bulk of that last time, I kinda thought she pulled in some cash too Ellipsis Apr 2015 #411

You wrote, "walk away if you have an issue." Demit Apr 2015 #316

I disapprove of people "sleuthing" out of "concern." ScreamingMeemie Apr 2015 #318

So help me out. Give me $20. Demit Apr 2015 #327

Me too, I could use a $20! cwydro Apr 2015 #329

Thank you for proving the point so succinctly in this response. ScreamingMeemie Apr 2015 #332

You're welcome. cwydro Apr 2015 #346

YOU disapprove. It's allowed behavior here, so perhaps you are the one who should walk away. Gormy Cuss Apr 2015 #341

Plus when you come to an open forum and ask for money Lex Apr 2015 #344

This thread has gone awry so I feel safe this aside about vets and vets panhandling... HereSince1628 Apr 2015 #375

This thread reminded me of a video clip from the past Oilwellian Apr 2015 #390

Yes, I suppose that's true, too, because all these things reflect human responses. HereSince1628 Apr 2015 #391

Because we care phil89 Apr 2015 #310

Emotion? LOL A plea for sanity is just that. ScreamingMeemie Apr 2015 #311

On breaking out of the cycle... pipi_k Apr 2015 #325

Take a breath, hide the thread and move on. ScreamingMeemie Apr 2015 #335

I've seen pipi_k Apr 2015 #423

What evidence? JTFrog Apr 2015 #312

Have you phil89 Apr 2015 #340

Andy had a fraud watch on PayPal, too. grasswire Apr 2015 #386

Yeah but this wording doesn't sound like that poster CreekDog Apr 2015 #349

Getting worried mariuma May 2015 #490

Sorry, people keep mentioning Andy. cwydro Apr 2015 #319

I don't really care about now...or before. ScreamingMeemie Apr 2015 #321

Nope, but I find it below contempt cwydro Apr 2015 #326

Take a breath, hide the thread, and move on. nt. ScreamingMeemie Apr 2015 #334

Andy was an original member in DU2 - he passed away in 2005, IIRC. closeupready Apr 2015 #336

Thanks for the info. cwydro Apr 2015 #347

Good points. As for me, since I'm familiar with TTW's history here and share her political leanings closeupready Apr 2015 #352

I would be too. cwydro Apr 2015 #355

EVERYTHING in her "story" adds up to a person who is under stress and is not thinking clearly. PassingFair Apr 2015 #404

+1 darkangel218 Apr 2015 #405

The whole 25 paragraph phil89 Apr 2015 #433

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People donated to get him help he needed, pay medical bills. Cons got hold of it, got the money uppityperson Apr 2015 #362

That's not quite what happened REP Apr 2015 #398

Actually the surgery itself was not a success. It was too late, had spread everywhere in his body... bettyellen Apr 2015 #415

True. REP Apr 2015 #417

When I met him in DC he was having his first symptoms and looked jaundiced.... bettyellen Apr 2015 #419

Yep rjsquirrel Apr 2015 #422

Don't bring Andy into this argument... Avalux Apr 2015 #351

You may think of me what you wish. DUers are equally important to me in times of trouble. ScreamingMeemie Apr 2015 #356

So, what happened pipi_k Apr 2015 #381

"What happened" ScreamingMeemie Apr 2015 #402

Actually I was referring to pipi_k Apr 2015 #426

I just went to KnR that thread--but I saw no nasty comments about grammar or spelling. nt tblue37 Apr 2015 #467

+1. This is getting absolutely fucking creepy. n/t MadrasT Apr 2015 #354

she hasn't posted since midday yesterday CreekDog Apr 2015 #322

Working on another 20 paragraph explanation perhaps? cwydro Apr 2015 #330

Be careful, you may be labelled a troll phil89 Apr 2015 #436

Well, I've already been called cruel. cwydro Apr 2015 #438

Welsh names *are* hard to pronounce ... REP Apr 2015 #440

Lol. cwydro Apr 2015 #443

This message was self-deleted by its author closeupready Apr 2015 #324

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Why question it & give her a hard time? We're adults. cyberswede Apr 2015 #338

Why question it? phil89 Apr 2015 #342

My point is that we're all adults and are capable of deciding on the veracity of the OP ourselves cyberswede Apr 2015 #343

Then you're capable of withstanding what other people post. Demit Apr 2015 #359

(I was addressing a repeat troll whose sole purpose here was to harrass a long-time DUer) cyberswede Apr 2015 #368

Nice lie. phil89 Apr 2015 #435

I was referring to "Name removed" above, not to you. cyberswede Apr 2015 #439

That clearly wasn't directed at you... Agschmid Apr 2015 #450

who appointed you posse? nt grasswire Apr 2015 #388

It really is a simple as that. ScreamingMeemie Apr 2015 #348

That is EXACTLY what it is. Fucking cruelty. Sheldon Cooper Apr 2015 #366

+1 darkangel218 Apr 2015 #407

certainly revealing. isn't it? grasswire Apr 2015 #408

I agree.. Texasgal Apr 2015 #416

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I Feel Your Pain, I Am Currently Homeless... Corey_Baker08 Apr 2015 #345

Whoa!!! Stellar Apr 2015 #357

. ScreamingMeemie Apr 2015 #365

Richmond, Indiana currently Corey_Baker08 Apr 2015 #373

Oy, this thread. nt tishaLA Apr 2015 #361

Yup. I can't believe it's still going on... CTyankee Apr 2015 #367

On the positive side, it keeps you off the jury list. ScreamingMeemie Apr 2015 #369

Oh, I take no side in this. I truly don't know the facts here... CTyankee Apr 2015 #371

It is a horrible situation these days for so many. I'm sorry your daughter is struggling. ScreamingMeemie Apr 2015 #374

no problem. my daughter is nowhere near the OP's situation but it CTyankee Apr 2015 #387

I think of it as insulating myself against serving on a jury tishaLA Apr 2015 #370

I did not even think of that...until I was told a few minutes ago... CTyankee Apr 2015 #372

OK, my take. KMOD Apr 2015 #376

This message was self-deleted by its author MineralMan Apr 2015 #385

TTW, this thread has gone off the rails, lock it post a new one, with the latest updates Ellipsis Apr 2015 #396

I care, and I am concerned. KMOD Apr 2015 #406

OK. So I'm no lawyer, lonestarnot Apr 2015 #421

Ok...so what ended up happening? phil89 Apr 2015 #437

I really hope she didn't get thrown out on the street. JTFrog Apr 2015 #441

Me too. She got a lot of hostility from DU in the thread. IMHO Liberal_in_LA Apr 2015 #444

And if she lost her internet connection, that would explain the lack of recent posts from her. nt tblue37 Apr 2015 #468

Where does it say she was in danger of losing it? noella17 Apr 2015 #469

If she got evicted, she probably would not be able to post online. nt tblue37 Apr 2015 #470

If you read her posts noella17 Apr 2015 #472

The legal system is practically unusable to poor people daredtowork Apr 2015 #442

Hmm. cwydro Apr 2015 #445

How so? daredtowork Apr 2015 #446

Just wanted to say how much your experience reflects Scruffy Rumbler Apr 2015 #447

What I find difficult to swallow SheilaT Apr 2015 #448

I would have to go back to look at the timeline daredtowork Apr 2015 #449

In her first request for money SheilaT Apr 2015 #451

Her first request for money was in February? daredtowork Apr 2015 #457

Wow. That's a comprehensive statement, and I thank you for posting it. Hekate Apr 2015 #482

I'm on the fence about it daredtowork Apr 2015 #483

wise words grasswire Apr 2015 #453

absolutely agree about the PTSD grasswire Apr 2015 #452

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oh come on... grasswire Apr 2015 #456

Apparently, yes... MrMickeysMom Apr 2015 #465

Thanks - I'll look that up! daredtowork Apr 2015 #458

Your description of the inability for folks in financial distress to use the legal system is spot on stevenleser Apr 2015 #488

any word from TTW lately? Liberal_in_LA Apr 2015 #466

I wouldn't blame her Texasgal Apr 2015 #473

TTW, hope you are okay! DawgHouse Apr 2015 #475

I don't worry about being scammed gwheezie Apr 2015 #479