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In reply to the discussion: Democrat's Apathy For Unions Is Suicide [View all]Savannahmann
(3,891 posts)Right now, the Democratic Party is suffering from multiple personality disorder. A majority of us want Hillary to be the nominee so she can win the election in a obviously delusional landslide and be the President who kicks the Republicans out of Washington and makes being a person who voted for republicans a hate crime. Or something.
But, as I've pointed out, Hillary can't win without the Unions unless she has record breaking support among the other demographic groups. http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026296538
But the big thing is this. Unions are a group that the Party including the supporters here are taking for granted, and have been for some time. The people here, and in the Party are so accustomed to getting Union support in donations and volunteers that they just assume as soon as they open the doors to a campaign office, the Union will be behind them. I mean, the Republicans are awful signing NAFTA into law, and pushing hard for Fast Track on TPP and all of that. Unlike the Democratic Party that is really busy pushing for TPP and Fast Track.
So by ignoring Union threads, and thus ignoring the Unions, the Democratic Party faithful like us, can pretend that the future is just peachy keen and that Hillary is going to win a 49 state margin by popular accord. The election will be a confirmation, not a challenge.
When you point out that the Unions are not happy about the TPP, people won't even consider it.
She will get union support... count on it.
It's a given. It is guaranteed. The sun will rise in the east in the morning no matter what we do. We can insult the sun all day long, and it will rise in the east the very next morning. Democrats can ignore, and take advantage of the Unions, and even pass treaties and legislation that eliminates a million jobs from their number, and the Unions will happily donate money, members will volunteer their time, and the will turn out in record numbers to vote for Democrats.
Because, the Union knows that being screwed by your friend is way better than being screwed by your enemy.
So why should anyone pay attention to the Unions. The Politico's in Washington give them lips service now and then, and that's all that's really needed. The Labor Day speech from someone who talks about the long history of the Unions fighting for the average worker. They'll sing look for that Union Label. Then once this block is checked, it's time to go back to ignoring the Unions, because everyone knows that they would never withhold their support. They love the Democratic Party because the Unions know that without the Democrats winning the elections that we'll get a Supreme Court Justice who will overturn Roe, or will affirm Citizens United, or will ban Gay Marriage. All of those topics of course are way more important to the Unions that jobs, which would be lost because of TPP as they were under NAFTA. The Unions know how important it is to support the Democrat because they know that the Republicans will never stop trying to destroy them. And it's way better to lose a million jobs because of the actions of a friend, than it is to lose a million jobs because of the actions of your enemy.
Besides, what are the Unions going to do? Ignore the Democrats as completely as the Democrats ignore the Unions?