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erronis

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47. ALEC? Are their dirty pawprints on all of these state actions?

Wed Apr 1, 2015, 01:47 PM

Apr 2015

Certainly seems to have a familiar stench of DC/K-Street pr0n-ship here.

I doubt many repug state legislators are smart enough to pen a bill without some outside (lobbying) interest. Since several states are all trying this at the same time, is it a conspiracy? Or is it just another RW heist of representative government?

The really sad part of all of these shenanigans is that ALEC (or WTF its name is now) is doing this at the cost of the state taxpayers.

Normal Mary and Jane and Bob and Harry households are paying their taxes to the state. The state (via their nominal representatives) puts the bill-passing mechanism in play. Outside forces (pro/con) challenge these and go before hearings, etc.

All of these to-and-fro activities in the state are paid for from some state based fund.

Maybe that's the goal of ALEC/CRAP - defund state governments by making them do stoopid things and having to defend their stoopidity.

Think I'm crazy? There's a virus that cats transmit to rats to make the rats act just like legislators.

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BREAKING: Arkansas governor says he won’t sign religious liberty bill, asks lawmakers to change it [View all] cali Apr 2015 OP

So he's an honest politician after all. hobbit709 Apr 2015 #1

Reminds me of a game of thrones scene Kurska Apr 2015 #25

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! CatWoman Apr 2015 #43

Bingo! blackspade Apr 2015 #26

Irony writ large brush Apr 2015 #52

Good for him. He can see the graffiti on the wall, I guess. MineralMan Apr 2015 #2

Big win. Problem is that now men and women are coming out, almost everyone knows a gay person... libdem4life Apr 2015 #3

Good for his son. ScreamingMeemie Apr 2015 #4

Fine, great, we'll see. It ain't over 'til it's over. Don't let your guard down. Zorra Apr 2015 #5

He didn't sign it. True, we need to see what the legislature does now, but the writing cali Apr 2015 #7

Correct. Arkansas doesn't have a pocket veto law so if he merely doesn't totodeinhere Apr 2015 #48

Is this the first time a Republican has pointed out the obvious generational gap? tridim Apr 2015 #6

wow, nice insult to so many of us who have been on the front lines our whole damned lives. niyad Apr 2015 #8

Obviously I'm not talking about you. tridim Apr 2015 #10

It isn't an insult to acknowledge the fact that young people, whatever their political affiliation, pnwmom Apr 2015 #14

that remark was an insult to the millions of us who have worked for social justice our niyad Apr 2015 #16

I don't see it that way. The baby boomers as a group aren't particularly supportive of gay rights. pnwmom Apr 2015 #17

It's not an insult. It merely points out that older people are less likely as a group totodeinhere Apr 2015 #49

it was a blanket statement, and, therefore, an insult. niyad Apr 2015 #55

Yeah we understand what you mean, just like we got the civil rights laws before you A Simple Game Apr 2015 #30

So you don't believe there is a distinct generational gap Re: homophobia and racism? tridim Apr 2015 #32

I doubt there is a generational gap on DU which is the audience you are talking to. A Simple Game Apr 2015 #37

Their is a gen gap out in the public and in the Liberal crowd also. LiberalArkie Apr 2015 #46

Wrong! This baby boomer was out front on this upaloopa Apr 2015 #41

He's blabbering about issuing a state executive order instead of demanding sinkingfeeling Apr 2015 #9

Yeah, I doubt it was his son signing a petition BrotherIvan Apr 2015 #11

Wow Seth!! wendylaroux Apr 2015 #12

LOL. Apple that fell far from the tree. cali Apr 2015 #15

Very,extremely far!! :) wendylaroux Apr 2015 #19

In other words he's saying that Pence is lying about his bill malaise Apr 2015 #13

It's a smart person who learns from the mistakes of others nichomachus Apr 2015 #18

It's not a fucking religious liberty bill, it's bill to legalize discrimination Zorra Apr 2015 #20

it's a bill to legalize HATE LynneSin Apr 2015 #22

Excellent insight LynneSin Adsos Letter Apr 2015 #29

You can even plagerize it and call it your own LynneSin Apr 2015 #54

Yes! Thank you. yardwork Apr 2015 #36

very nicely said. EVERYONE has a stake in this. bbgrunt Apr 2015 #38

Hats off to Seth Hutchinson. Seems the kid fool of religious hatred.... LynneSin Apr 2015 #21

It's turd polishing time in Arkansas..... yellowcanine Apr 2015 #23

"I'm not as gullible as Indiana's governor," Hutchinson explained. rocktivity Apr 2015 #24

“This is a bill that in ordinary times would not be controversial,” Really? Helen Borg Apr 2015 #27

Not controversial in "ordinary times"? WTF Blue_Adept Apr 2015 #28

Just wait a few weeks for the public to forget about Indiana's SB 101. alp227 Apr 2015 #31

Good to hear! And thank you Seth (if the story is true). n/t Avalux Apr 2015 #33

Thanks Walmart! You STILL suck beyond mere descriptive words though! stillwaiting Apr 2015 #34

I think one thing seems certain DFW Apr 2015 #35

I dunno. Turns out that Mike Pence is a true believer. yardwork Apr 2015 #40

Oh, I'm sure he's that DFW Apr 2015 #44

WTF does he mean by "ordinary times"? tishaLA Apr 2015 #39

I was afraid this was going to be an April fools joke marym625 Apr 2015 #42

Although you don't want the economic and political whiplash Asa, you still embrace the Dont call me Shirley Apr 2015 #45

ALEC? Are their dirty pawprints on all of these state actions? erronis Apr 2015 #47

The bill will automatically become law in five business days if he merely refuses to sign it. totodeinhere Apr 2015 #50

Smart move, dirtbag. [nt] Jester Messiah Apr 2015 #51

This message was self-deleted by its author Historic NY Apr 2015 #53

Wrong. See post #3 in the thread onenote Apr 2015 #56