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In reply to the discussion: Democrat's Apathy For Unions Is Suicide [View all]NM_Birder
(1,591 posts)about monthly dues, and very little else.
Union apprenticeship, and training are still required, but a union trained carpenter is average at best these days, and I mean AT BEST they are average. I've been project manager in commercial/industrial general contracting for nearly 20 years, this trend has been steadily getting worse the whole time. The trade unions hire minimum wage people to picket several of our job sites on a regular basis and we've gotten so used to the "unfair wage signs" they roll out, I would miss them if they ever stopped, more than a few have tried to get hired, but as far as construction goes they are ignorant of everything but what benefits they want. What stops the union reps in their tracks every time they show up, is the fact that we pay above scale, and have fantastic benefit packages based on skill level.
i don't know about other unions, but if you still believe that illegal immigration only has an effect on agriculture and hotel cleaning you will always be curious as to why union memberships is falling across the board.
I have non-union tinners and electricians that would leave unionized guys crying in the dust, ....and a union carpenter is not much more than a wood shop graduate that can read a tape. the union guys are too pre-occupied with being sure they are not blinking one time than they are required to by law, and then only in between breaks. My guys commit, and for that commitment they are rewarded.
I still find it hilarious that the new carpenters union that took nearly TWO FRICKIN YEARS to build, was a concrete tilt-up built by the only union slower than the carpenters,....the concrete guys.