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mike_c

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108. their mental illness is their disease....

Reply to Dont call me Shirley (Reply #107)

Wed Apr 1, 2015, 10:39 PM

Apr 2015

No, it isn't "calling a disease sufferer crazy." It's noting that mental illness IS the disease they suffer from. You can't offer them effective treatment if you don't identify their real disorder.

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Iconic singer Joni Mitchell was diagnosed with Morgellons. ... she's awake and in good spirts [View all] Ichingcarpenter Apr 2015 OP

If this is an April Fool's Day prank, it's in very, very poor taste... SidDithers Apr 2015 #1

I don't know. Other sources have it more up in the air. cali Apr 2015 #2

Morgellons has been found to be a spirochetal infection FourScore Apr 2015 #117

My first thought as well. Thanks. (nt) Orrex Apr 2015 #3

Mayo clinic vs sid? Ichingcarpenter Apr 2015 #5

Peer reviewed PLOS-One research conducted by the CDC, or a web site?... SidDithers Apr 2015 #6

Sid vs NY Daily News? I'll go with Sid. Orrex Apr 2015 #7

Joni said she had it in another paper so complain to Joni Ichingcarpenter Apr 2015 #8

No kidding? Well, let's see what the Mayo Clinic says about Morgellons: Orrex Apr 2015 #16

umm, the NY Daily News is liberal. m-lekktor Apr 2015 #63

It's still a psycholgical condition, not an infection Orrex Apr 2015 #83

Regardless of whether the condition is an infection or a psychological condition . . . markpkessinger Apr 2015 #86

No one has disputed that point Orrex Apr 2015 #87

I think a post implying that Michell's condition, whatever it may be, is an April Fool's joke . . . markpkessinger Apr 2015 #92

Well, I'll own up to it, since it was my first impression as well. Orrex Apr 2015 #97

Or how about the American Society for Microbiology - Clinical Microbiology Reviews?... SidDithers Apr 2015 #10

That should pay well pscot Apr 2015 #88

Morgellons is not a delusional disorder. Ichingcarpenter Apr 2015 #4

"Morgellons is a controversial condition and is not recognised by mainstream medical authorities." ScreamingMeemie Apr 2015 #11

What I don't understand is the "fibers" which have been morningfog Apr 2015 #12

Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2015 #98

You can't genetically modify something that doesn't have genes arcane1 Apr 2015 #99

Maybe it is....from your link.... Logical Apr 2015 #113

The most recent research shows Morgellons is a coinfection of lyme disease. FourScore Apr 2015 #114

She really was found unconscious and taken to hospital. morningfog Apr 2015 #9

Yeah, I saw that. Hope she's OK... SidDithers Apr 2015 #13

I had never heard of the condition, but it morningfog Apr 2015 #18

whatever G_j Apr 2015 #31

whatever... SidDithers Apr 2015 #33

and there are scientists who say there's no environmental damage from fracking Romeo.lima333 Apr 2015 #15

True, but irrelevant here. Orrex Apr 2015 #17

nope that's not my suggestion Romeo.lima333 Apr 2015 #44

Story ran yesterday... brooklynite Apr 2015 #26

I'm not disputing Joni Mitchell collapsed, and was taken to hospital... SidDithers Apr 2015 #27

From the linked FEBRUARY NY Magazine interview... brooklynite Apr 2015 #30

"Abscessed ovaries!" cwydro Apr 2015 #45

Something women get in their lady-parts, dear. Christ on a trailer hitch. Hekate Apr 2015 #52

Well, I'm a woman, and I'm very glad cwydro Apr 2015 #64

71 years old bigtree Apr 2015 #14

She has suffered from Morgellons for years Beaverhausen Apr 2015 #19

Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2015 #38

Oh Joni, you really need a psychiatrist, you're not really sick... Dont call me Shirley Apr 2015 #20

She's sick, and she needs a psychiatrist...nt SidDithers Apr 2015 #21

Ok we heard you the first time Beaverhausen Apr 2015 #22

Dude, you implied that I said Joni's collapse was all in her head... SidDithers Apr 2015 #23

I didn't imply anything Beaverhausen Apr 2015 #32

Whatever! Doctors have been telling women this for millennia, to demean and degrade women. Dont call me Shirley Apr 2015 #24

The difference being, pericarditis and Lupus are real diseases... SidDithers Apr 2015 #25

And global climate change is not caused by man Dont call me Shirley Apr 2015 #34

Several things going on here Orrex Apr 2015 #35

"fucked women"?! Really?! You had to go there!? Dont call me Shirley Apr 2015 #36

Wow... SidDithers Apr 2015 #39

That's your answer to you fucked women comment? Dont call me Shirley Apr 2015 #40

No, that's my answer to your "medical industrial complex" comment... SidDithers Apr 2015 #42

What is your answer to your "fucked women" comment? Dont call me Shirley Apr 2015 #46

First. It wasn't my comment... SidDithers Apr 2015 #47

Oh my side, sidorrex. It's still thinly veiled misogyny, any which way you wrap it. Dont call me Shirley Apr 2015 #48

You really enjoyed Asahina's yuiyoshida Apr 2015 #70

"Fucked women over for centuries," yes. How would you describe it? Orrex Apr 2015 #41

Sidorrex... Dont call me Shirley Apr 2015 #43

Do you know what it means to fuck someone over? Have you never heard that phrase? Orrex Apr 2015 #53

The only place you used a curse word was in front of the word women. Thinly veiled misogyny. Dont call me Shirley Apr 2015 #58

There are no bad words My Good Babushka Apr 2015 #65

That's a fucked up interpretation Orrex Apr 2015 #84

No trolling. Dont call me Shirley Apr 2015 #100

Who's a Monsanto troll? Orrex Apr 2015 #101

... Dont call me Shirley Apr 2015 #102

Whatever, April Orrex Apr 2015 #103

AUTOMATED MESSAGE: Results of your Jury Service FrodosPet Apr 2015 #106

It was "fucked over " libodem Apr 2015 #112

Can't see any more posts... Dont call me Shirley Apr 2015 #123

I was going to say that we ate grandma's cake My Good Babushka Apr 2015 #61

The only place a curse word was used was in front of the word women. That stands out like a Dont call me Shirley Apr 2015 #66

You said throbbing, and put it in front of a phallic object. My Good Babushka Apr 2015 #71

Where point to me where, babs. Dont call me Shirley Apr 2015 #75

Just pointing out My Good Babushka Apr 2015 #76

I'm not a Freudian psychoanalyst or student. It was a thinly veiled misogenist attack, period. Dont call me Shirley Apr 2015 #78

You are the only one who seems to think so. My Good Babushka Apr 2015 #81

I think it's pretty crappy that this all started from Sid attacking me simply for saying that I Dont call me Shirley Apr 2015 #90

Shirley, "fucking" is used as a verb not WhiteTara Apr 2015 #94

Sores CAN magically appear from your mind onto your skin My Good Babushka Apr 2015 #62

That's as believable as a fundamentalist Christian's belief that when Jesus comes to get them he Dont call me Shirley Apr 2015 #68

The brain is part of the body, too. My Good Babushka Apr 2015 #74

The mind is a body part yes. But the intonation of sids "mental"argument is that the illness is a Dont call me Shirley Apr 2015 #77

You absolutely can have psychosomatic rashes or sores My Good Babushka Apr 2015 #79

Absolute provable undeniable proof, please. Dont call me Shirley Apr 2015 #80

I'm not your personal fucking Google My Good Babushka Apr 2015 #82

The majority of research is behind a paywall Dont call me Shirley Apr 2015 #89

OOOhhhh, you said curse word Google!! Thor_MN Apr 2015 #115

The mind/brain is a very powerful thing. HappyMe Apr 2015 #69

Agreed, but a serious scientist is not going to look at a sore on a persons body and immediately Dont call me Shirley Apr 2015 #73

or the result of constant self injury.... mike_c Apr 2015 #105

Delusional Parasitits sounds like a fancy way of calling a disease sufferer crazy. Dont call me Shirley Apr 2015 #107

their mental illness is their disease.... mike_c Apr 2015 #108

Y'all are investing a lot of time and energy in trying to convince people that Joni Mitchell is Dont call me Shirley Apr 2015 #109

Your use of the term "crazy" in this context is offensive. Orrex Apr 2015 #110

Mental illness is real illness. stage left Apr 2015 #91

Indeed . . . markpkessinger Apr 2015 #93

have you ever worked with Morgellon's suffers? mike_c Apr 2015 #104

First TV appearance Manitoba TV 1965.. YouTube Ichingcarpenter Apr 2015 #28

Joni is just exquisite in that. I've never seen it before. Hekate Apr 2015 #111

Best wishes for you, Joni Mitchell Tuesday Afternoon Apr 2015 #29

Uh...Morgellons isn't a real disease. Arkana Apr 2015 #37

The latest research shows it is a spirochetal infection FourScore Apr 2015 #118

I hope she gets the care she needs in a nonjudgmental compassionate atmosphere, unlike DU... Hekate Apr 2015 #49

+ 1 crazylikafox Apr 2015 #51

Very well said Beaverhausen Apr 2015 #55

+2, bahrbearian Apr 2015 #59

I'm just annoyed to run across a thread where I agree with Sid whatchamacallit Apr 2015 #50

it does cause a frightful case of cognitive dissonance tishaLA Apr 2015 #67

Morgellons is not a physical disease. Avalux Apr 2015 #54

I agree. HappyMe Apr 2015 #56

Yes that's true. Avalux Apr 2015 #57

I watched the news at noon, HappyMe Apr 2015 #60

It is a spirochetal infection. Any information prior to 2010 is unreliable. FourScore Apr 2015 #120

The latest research FourScore Apr 2015 #119

Thank you for this. Avalux Apr 2015 #121

Your most welcome. As a researcher, you might also be interested in the work done by FourScore Apr 2015 #122

FFS.... mike_c Apr 2015 #72

Obviously you're part of the Medical Industrial Complex Orrex Apr 2015 #85

Shut up, pig. beam me up scottie Apr 2015 #95

There is increasing evidence that morgellons is a spirochetal infection FourScore Apr 2015 #116

thank you.... mike_c Apr 2015 #124

My hypothesis on this FourScore Apr 2015 #125

Wishing Joni a speedy recovery. AtomicKitten Apr 2015 #96

My fool-proof, certain test as to whether or not a person has an autoimmune disorder and/or hedgehog Apr 2015 #126