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8. April Fool, and/or Stanford will not admitt poor folk ..nt

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Stanford just went tuition-free for family incomes under $125K and total assets under $300K, [View all] pnwmom Apr 2015 OP

i am proud of my alma mater drray23 Apr 2015 #1

Mine too BrotherIvan Apr 2015 #4

Fantastic, good for Stanford & CA. This is exactly what the US needs to do, the way we used to! appalachiablue Apr 2015 #2

and how many of those kind of students will actually get admitted? ND-Dem Apr 2015 #3

A bunch. Stanford deserves a lot of praise. Hoyt Apr 2015 #10

evidence? ND-Dem Apr 2015 #13

16% of all students there get Pell Grants, the best available measure of % of low-income ND-Dem Apr 2015 #25

Pell Grants aren't available to everybody. (nt) stone space Apr 2015 #33

no, they're for folks from low-income households. ND-Dem Apr 2015 #36

Pell grants and Federal Student Loans are not available to all low income students. stone space Apr 2015 #47

no, you have to be under the income limit. ND-Dem Apr 2015 #55

That only applies if you have the privilege. (nt) stone space Apr 2015 #57

what privilege is that? ND-Dem Apr 2015 #58

The privilege of being allowed access to student grants and loans. (nt) stone space Apr 2015 #59

Who are you thinking of that can't access federal student aid? n/t tammywammy Apr 2015 #68

First, Pell Grants aren't loans. Second, if you meet the requirements, you have access. ND-Dem Apr 2015 #92

Isn't there also a rule regarding point averages? You have to keep your grades up. jwirr Apr 2015 #60

once you're accepted to an accredited school if you meet the income guidelines, basically ND-Dem Apr 2015 #93

16% of all students doesn't equal out to 4% of each class. Ace Rothstein Apr 2015 #41

You're right. ND-Dem Apr 2015 #42

That would be 16% on average of each class tkmorris Apr 2015 #43

you're right. ND-Dem Apr 2015 #44

African American students feel more comfortable at Stanford than at Cal KamaAina Apr 2015 #16

Dunno about that but UCLA & UC Berkeley have a much larger percent of students getting ND-Dem Apr 2015 #26

Here you go KamaAina Apr 2015 #28

and i found some data about stanford's black undergrad enrollment; problem is, it seems to ND-Dem Apr 2015 #31

I think the public universities may have been more impacted by a court decision pnwmom Apr 2015 #67

I believe you are correct. salin Apr 2015 #77

Wasn't a court case, it was a ballot measure. ND-Dem Apr 2015 #91

several years later were the court cases - the ones I recall involved the U of Michigan salin Apr 2015 #100

Not exactly. Prop 209. ND-Dem Apr 2015 #90

If they are exceptional students and apply they would get admitted Brother Buzz Apr 2015 #23

16% of Stanford students get Pell Grants. ND-Dem Apr 2015 #24

There's still a 'Donut Hole' between Pell Grant recipients and being able to afford full tuition Brother Buzz Apr 2015 #34

This message was self-deleted by its author enki23 Apr 2015 #5

which they can only do because they discriminate against the poor in admissions Man from Pickens Apr 2015 #6

Often it's the other way around KamaAina Apr 2015 #20

Good, but not far enough. Ms. Toad Apr 2015 #7

Your situation mirrors my parents almost exactly. F4lconF16 Apr 2015 #21

but you have the satisfaction of knowing you did the right thing, which is something at least; ND-Dem Apr 2015 #32

Yes, and no. Ms. Toad Apr 2015 #38

That sounds hard. Working 65-100 hours a week and it's still possible to maintain your sanity? ND-Dem Apr 2015 #40

I love my job, Ms. Toad Apr 2015 #45

Thanks; you helped me feel better about my situation. I agree with your take. In theory -- ND-Dem Apr 2015 #46

April Fool, and/or Stanford will not admitt poor folk ..nt quadrature Apr 2015 #8

Through grants and loans, Stanford promises to meet 100% of financial need pnwmom Apr 2015 #9

Need as determined by FAFSA has put our family in debt. MelissaB Apr 2015 #11

Yes -- and that is true for many. But now Stanford is expanding the number of students pnwmom Apr 2015 #12

Good for Stanford dannward Apr 2015 #14

LOL. Yeah, those people at The Farm did okay this time. nt pnwmom Apr 2015 #22

The benefits of a $21 BILLION endowment. aikoaiko Apr 2015 #15

Now that is well endowed!!!! nt NCTraveler Apr 2015 #18

Good on Stanford and they deserve credit for doing this. NCTraveler Apr 2015 #17

DU rec...nt SidDithers Apr 2015 #19

Good for Stanford. hifiguy Apr 2015 #27

Nice post, Ted Cruz! KamaAina Apr 2015 #29

That's not funny! hifiguy Apr 2015 #30

Well, think who I have to put up with KamaAina Apr 2015 #39

We all have our alumni crosses to bear. hifiguy Apr 2015 #84

Should we thank the President and Elizabeth Warren for jawboning the tuition and affordability issue kelliekat44 Apr 2015 #35

Both have done a good deal to spotlight national attention on college education costs & the loan- appalachiablue Apr 2015 #111

Brilliant! mahalo Stanford and pnwmom! Cha Apr 2015 #37

What about fees? Quantess Apr 2015 #48

Fees can be high, no doubt SickOfTheOnePct Apr 2015 #49

Have you ever attended college in California? Quantess Apr 2015 #50

Well, the average cost of attenance for San Francisco State University is $6468/year SickOfTheOnePct Apr 2015 #52

SFSU was "tuition free" in the early 1990s Quantess Apr 2015 #53

Yes, I see your point SickOfTheOnePct Apr 2015 #69

Okay, great, *Insensitive One*. I guess you had everything go as planned, Quantess Apr 2015 #70

No, everything didn't go as planned in my life SickOfTheOnePct Apr 2015 #71

WHAT?! You just now called me a liar, and that is not okay! Quantess Apr 2015 #72

I didn't call you a liar SickOfTheOnePct Apr 2015 #73

What is your motivation for not taking me at my word? Quantess Apr 2015 #75

For what happened 20 years ago? SickOfTheOnePct Apr 2015 #76

The great thing about internet discussions, especially DU discussions, Quantess Apr 2015 #78

Yes, we can SickOfTheOnePct Apr 2015 #79

This is where you called me a liar for relating my own experience! Quantess Apr 2015 #81

I didn't call you a liar SickOfTheOnePct Apr 2015 #82

DUH! Look below, genius. Quantess Apr 2015 #86

You seem to have a very big chip on your shoulder SickOfTheOnePct Apr 2015 #87

Listen to your own advice! Quantess Apr 2015 #88

Stating fact is not picking a fight SickOfTheOnePct Apr 2015 #89

Sarcasm and name calling? Wow, when did that happen? Quantess Apr 2015 #94

Go back and read what you've posted SickOfTheOnePct Apr 2015 #95

You picked a fight with me, told me you didn't believe my story. Quantess Apr 2015 #96

As I said before, pointing out a fact is not picking a fight SickOfTheOnePct Apr 2015 #97

What "fact" have you pointed out? Quantess Apr 2015 #99

The fact SickOfTheOnePct Apr 2015 #101

"..as you initially claimed.." See, this is why people don't like you. Quantess Apr 2015 #102

If people don't like me because I prefer facts over fiction SickOfTheOnePct Apr 2015 #104

So you ARE calling me a liar!!! Nice person you are??? Quantess Apr 2015 #105

Win? Nothing at all. SickOfTheOnePct Apr 2015 #106

So, why do you HAVE TO win this contest? Quantess Apr 2015 #107

Why do you insist on calling it a "contest"? SickOfTheOnePct Apr 2015 #110

Oh and also, I never claimed anything at all about present day costs at SFSU. Quantess Apr 2015 #108

I have read it SickOfTheOnePct Apr 2015 #109

Great! merrily Apr 2015 #51

It isn't necessarily out of reach. MissB Apr 2015 #56

I meant only that a college education has become so expensive that you can earn over $100K a year merrily Apr 2015 #61

I am very skeptical. They will just increase the fees, obviously. Quantess Apr 2015 #54

Stanford is private -- not part of the public system that is written about there. pnwmom Apr 2015 #63

Standford is private? Okay, I did not know that. Quantess Apr 2015 #65

Maybe you're thinking of UCBerkeley? pnwmom Apr 2015 #66

Stanford students also call Stanford "The Farm" salin Apr 2015 #74

Do they still have The Axe hifiguy Apr 2015 #83

no idea salin Apr 2015 #98

Private colleges are not made for us poor people. DemocraticWing Apr 2015 #62

About 70% of their students are given financial aid pnwmom Apr 2015 #64

Exactly right and well said n/t SickOfTheOnePct Apr 2015 #85

I think it's great SickOfTheOnePct Apr 2015 #80

How lucky most would never achieve admittance. Historic NY Apr 2015 #103