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lovemydog

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40. I think it's a bit of both sabrina 1.

Thu Apr 2, 2015, 07:04 AM

Apr 2015

The party leadership (and those democrats who acquiesce far too easily to conservative republican demands). And also apathy & ignorance among voters. I most definitely don't discount all the things that you say here in this thread. I also think it's important to vote for the most progressive candidate on every ballot, in every election, especially local & statewide elections. Whenever republicans win majorities they are able to strong-arm even candidates who would like to be more progressive, by telling them 'it's the will of the people - the votes are on our side!'

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The Biggest Fools in America: Those who help �Republicans� get elected [View all] riqster Apr 2015 OP

Blunt and Cranky rec... SidDithers Apr 2015 #1

Thanks. riqster Apr 2015 #2

I agree, like the 60+ Elected Democrats who endorsed and voted FOR Chris Christie sabrina 1 Apr 2015 #3

No, you don't agree... SidDithers Apr 2015 #4

Facts are facts. When elected Dems ENDORSE and vote for Republicans, sabrina 1 Apr 2015 #6

Voter participation rates suck. So incumbency = reelection. riqster Apr 2015 #7

Wrong, clearly enough voters went out and voted for Democrats in NJ. Which is a Blue sabrina 1 Apr 2015 #10

Crap. Voter partiparticipation numbers suck. riqster Apr 2015 #12

Voter participation sucks because the parties both suck Fumesucker Apr 2015 #15

That "little or no difference" canard again. Sigh. riqster Apr 2015 #19

How often do you see Republicans endorsing Democrats? Fumesucker Apr 2015 #25

That was crazy. riqster Apr 2015 #30

If you had heard the TV commercials for Mark Pryor and Tom Cotton-- Art_from_Ark Apr 2015 #37

Running away from Obama worked SO WELL, dinnit? riqster Apr 2015 #45

Embracing Obama wouldn't have worked in Arkansas Art_from_Ark Apr 2015 #55

Voter participation does not suck everywhere, and that should offer a variety of clues to those who Bluenorthwest Apr 2015 #56

Horse crap. Adrahil Apr 2015 #42

Very true. riqster Apr 2015 #46

The Waffle abides. Katashi_itto Apr 2015 #21

Glad to see you. riqster Apr 2015 #29

Have been off camping at SCA events. Omelette DU Fromage! Katashi_itto Apr 2015 #31

C'est magnifique! riqster Apr 2015 #32

Darn, have you looked at HEMA? Katashi_itto Apr 2015 #44

Sounds similar. riqster Apr 2015 #47

Np, HEMA is rapier based, also one reason I returned to Kendo was because Katashi_itto Apr 2015 #52

Ah. Thanks again. riqster Apr 2015 #57

That takes the onus off the voters. riqster Apr 2015 #5

I doubt NJ voters who 'elected Dems' expected them to support a Republican, publicly. sabrina 1 Apr 2015 #8

And how did those vichy dems get into office in the first place? riqster Apr 2015 #9

Well, it's clear that you are determined to blame the voters no matter what so sabrina 1 Apr 2015 #11

Voters put people in office. Of COURSE we are responsible. riqster Apr 2015 #13

When these 60+ 'Dems' who endorsed Christie and voted for him, run again, what should sabrina 1 Apr 2015 #14

How about getting involved in the primaries? riqster Apr 2015 #18

You are implying that voters have NOT been involved in the primaries. Why are you implying sabrina 1 Apr 2015 #24

I think it's a bit of both sabrina 1. lovemydog Apr 2015 #40

Yes is dammit. Adrahil Apr 2015 #43

+1 riqster Apr 2015 #48

+2 Tarheel_Dem Apr 2015 #26

TY. riqster Apr 2015 #50

Swiped this link from napkinz hifiguy Apr 2015 #16

Pithy and perfect. riqster Apr 2015 #17

I was going to post that :) napkinz Apr 2015 #20

You are a national treasure. riqster Apr 2015 #22

wow ... thanks riqster napkinz Apr 2015 #23

This is so simple NoJusticeNoPeace Apr 2015 #27

S'truth. riqster Apr 2015 #28

It doesn't get any more stark than that. lovemydog Apr 2015 #41

Yes they are riqster.. dumb dumb dumb.. helping to make life better for Billionaire$ Cha Apr 2015 #33

Sad. riqster Apr 2015 #34

Yes and KICK! Cha Apr 2015 #35

Thanks and hug. riqster Apr 2015 #36

right backatcha! Cha Apr 2015 #38

That is one righteous rant. lovemydog Apr 2015 #39

Thanks. riqster Apr 2015 #49

The biggest fools are those party leaders who don't want to give the apathetic voter a real reason. hobbit709 Apr 2015 #51

I think apathetic voters can get a little less apathetic lovemydog Apr 2015 #54

It is a symbiosis of a sort. riqster Apr 2015 #59

Excellent Post! BRAVO! Vogon_Glory Apr 2015 #53

No babel fish required. riqster Apr 2015 #58

some toons ... napkinz Apr 2015 #60

As usual, I take issue with the concept that Republicans used to be less extreme and are now, rather Bluenorthwest Apr 2015 #61

Back in the 50's and early 60's, a schism still existed. riqster Apr 2015 #62

That's doing some long reach into the past to say something nice about a Party which my father Bluenorthwest Apr 2015 #63

Well, I've never identified as a repub. Kent State put paid to that. riqster Apr 2015 #66

It's up to the candidates to convince voters to vote for them. Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2015 #64

That is a passive approach. Wait for someone else to do the work. riqster Apr 2015 #65

The candidates are the ones who want the job. It's up to them to convince the employers. Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2015 #67

And we are the people who want a certain type of government. riqster Apr 2015 #68

Which is exactly what I said. Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2015 #69

Exactly. Bobbie Jo Apr 2015 #70