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lovemydog

(11,833 posts)
54. I think apathetic voters can get a little less apathetic
Thu Apr 2, 2015, 08:40 AM
Apr 2015

and learn the issues and how the democratic candidate differs from the republican candidate.

But I also agree with you wholeheartedly that democratic candidates must do a much better job of distinguishing themselves from republicans. Especially those who win.

I just can't fathom though, why someone would say it's all the fault of the candidate, as some excuse for not voting. Or that it's a 'lesser of two evils' as though that's some excuse not to vote. Voting is always a lesser of two evils. Or pretty much always. Unless you find some dream person on whom you agree on every single issue.

I think the problem is not all the fault of the candidates or all the fault of apathetic voters. I think it's a little of both. The sad thing is that this can cause a drift toward the right. Because the right keeps voting. Then they get in power and say 'See? We have a mandate from the public that cares enough to vote?'

Obviously there are other factors at play as well, like voter suppression and people working on voting days. But I sometimes feel like the apathy among younger voters, especially in congressional elections, is one of the saddest aspects of the dumbing down of civics in our country. There are big differences in policy issues among candidates and politicians. There are especially distinctions between republicans and progressives (for whom I always vote).

I do agree most definitely that the democratic party must put up people who are very distinct, in both policy and in tenor, from republicans. I talk with a lot of younger folks too, and I find many of them ill-informed on the differences between the republican party and the democratic party, in terms of policies. I'm really less interested in assigning all the blame to one side or another side. I'm very interested in addressing what needs to be done to improve the situation. Because right now I believe the democratic party has a real crisis on its hands. And so does our country.

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Blunt and Cranky rec... SidDithers Apr 2015 #1
Thanks. riqster Apr 2015 #2
I agree, like the 60+ Elected Democrats who endorsed and voted FOR Chris Christie sabrina 1 Apr 2015 #3
No, you don't agree... SidDithers Apr 2015 #4
Facts are facts. When elected Dems ENDORSE and vote for Republicans, sabrina 1 Apr 2015 #6
Voter participation rates suck. So incumbency = reelection. riqster Apr 2015 #7
Wrong, clearly enough voters went out and voted for Democrats in NJ. Which is a Blue sabrina 1 Apr 2015 #10
Crap. Voter partiparticipation numbers suck. riqster Apr 2015 #12
Voter participation sucks because the parties both suck Fumesucker Apr 2015 #15
That "little or no difference" canard again. Sigh. riqster Apr 2015 #19
How often do you see Republicans endorsing Democrats? Fumesucker Apr 2015 #25
That was crazy. riqster Apr 2015 #30
If you had heard the TV commercials for Mark Pryor and Tom Cotton-- Art_from_Ark Apr 2015 #37
Running away from Obama worked SO WELL, dinnit? riqster Apr 2015 #45
Embracing Obama wouldn't have worked in Arkansas Art_from_Ark Apr 2015 #55
Voter participation does not suck everywhere, and that should offer a variety of clues to those who Bluenorthwest Apr 2015 #56
Horse crap. Adrahil Apr 2015 #42
Very true. riqster Apr 2015 #46
The Waffle abides. Katashi_itto Apr 2015 #21
Glad to see you. riqster Apr 2015 #29
Have been off camping at SCA events. Omelette DU Fromage! Katashi_itto Apr 2015 #31
C'est magnifique! riqster Apr 2015 #32
Darn, have you looked at HEMA? Katashi_itto Apr 2015 #44
Sounds similar. riqster Apr 2015 #47
Np, HEMA is rapier based, also one reason I returned to Kendo was because Katashi_itto Apr 2015 #52
Ah. Thanks again. riqster Apr 2015 #57
That takes the onus off the voters. riqster Apr 2015 #5
I doubt NJ voters who 'elected Dems' expected them to support a Republican, publicly. sabrina 1 Apr 2015 #8
And how did those vichy dems get into office in the first place? riqster Apr 2015 #9
Well, it's clear that you are determined to blame the voters no matter what so sabrina 1 Apr 2015 #11
Voters put people in office. Of COURSE we are responsible. riqster Apr 2015 #13
When these 60+ 'Dems' who endorsed Christie and voted for him, run again, what should sabrina 1 Apr 2015 #14
How about getting involved in the primaries? riqster Apr 2015 #18
You are implying that voters have NOT been involved in the primaries. Why are you implying sabrina 1 Apr 2015 #24
I think it's a bit of both sabrina 1. lovemydog Apr 2015 #40
Yes is dammit. Adrahil Apr 2015 #43
+1 riqster Apr 2015 #48
+2 Tarheel_Dem Apr 2015 #26
TY. riqster Apr 2015 #50
Swiped this link from napkinz hifiguy Apr 2015 #16
Pithy and perfect. riqster Apr 2015 #17
I was going to post that :) napkinz Apr 2015 #20
You are a national treasure. riqster Apr 2015 #22
wow ... thanks riqster napkinz Apr 2015 #23
This is so simple NoJusticeNoPeace Apr 2015 #27
S'truth. riqster Apr 2015 #28
It doesn't get any more stark than that. lovemydog Apr 2015 #41
Yes they are riqster.. dumb dumb dumb.. helping to make life better for Billionaire$ Cha Apr 2015 #33
Sad. riqster Apr 2015 #34
Yes and KICK! Cha Apr 2015 #35
Thanks and hug. riqster Apr 2015 #36
right backatcha! Cha Apr 2015 #38
That is one righteous rant. lovemydog Apr 2015 #39
Thanks. riqster Apr 2015 #49
The biggest fools are those party leaders who don't want to give the apathetic voter a real reason. hobbit709 Apr 2015 #51
I think apathetic voters can get a little less apathetic lovemydog Apr 2015 #54
It is a symbiosis of a sort. riqster Apr 2015 #59
Excellent Post! BRAVO! Vogon_Glory Apr 2015 #53
No babel fish required. riqster Apr 2015 #58
some toons ... napkinz Apr 2015 #60
As usual, I take issue with the concept that Republicans used to be less extreme and are now, rather Bluenorthwest Apr 2015 #61
Back in the 50's and early 60's, a schism still existed. riqster Apr 2015 #62
That's doing some long reach into the past to say something nice about a Party which my father Bluenorthwest Apr 2015 #63
Well, I've never identified as a repub. Kent State put paid to that. riqster Apr 2015 #66
It's up to the candidates to convince voters to vote for them. Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2015 #64
That is a passive approach. Wait for someone else to do the work. riqster Apr 2015 #65
The candidates are the ones who want the job. It's up to them to convince the employers. Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2015 #67
And we are the people who want a certain type of government. riqster Apr 2015 #68
Which is exactly what I said. Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2015 #69
Exactly. Bobbie Jo Apr 2015 #70
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