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kelly1mm

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3. From my understanding, the President can enter into executive agreements with other nations

Thu Apr 2, 2015, 06:11 PM

Apr 2015

that are binding so long as he is the President. If you want to bind the nation for longer than the term of office of the President you need to have congressional approval (a law passed) or better yet have the agreement be a treaty and have it ratified by the Senate.

So, basically, by not sending this to congress as either a law (like the Iraq war resolution) or as a treaty, the President can only 'bind' the country to this deal so long as he is in office. A successor can withdraw from the agreement at will.

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Can the Iranian deal be done even if the rethugs, won't go for it? I really hope so, because both [View all] still_one Apr 2015 OP

Your fears are valid. I will be looking for an answer as to your question. misterhighwasted Apr 2015 #1

I really hope it can be, and I also hope the MSM will not give free reign to republican propaganda still_one Apr 2015 #5

The repugs have no say in this. It's an agreement not a treaty Lochloosa Apr 2015 #2

An Executive Angreement also can be modified/terminated at will by any successor President. nt kelly1mm Apr 2015 #4

True. Lochloosa Apr 2015 #6

another reason 2016 is even more important still_one Apr 2015 #8

From my understanding, the President can enter into executive agreements with other nations kelly1mm Apr 2015 #3

That spells it out. I only hope that Collins and a few other republicans will put country before still_one Apr 2015 #7

I do not think a successor can simply opt out of this once it becomes International Law. It would be sabrina 1 Apr 2015 #11

That is the theory that the President is going to try and use. However, the US has no problem kelly1mm Apr 2015 #19

Maybe, but part of this is revoking sanctions at the UN Renew Deal Apr 2015 #31

The US can and does have unilateral sanctions against countries without UN approval. See Cuba. nt kelly1mm Apr 2015 #33

We are a country of 300 million in a world of over 6 billion Renew Deal Apr 2015 #35

The US GDP is 16% of the global total, so much more important economically than our popultion kelly1mm Apr 2015 #37

It's a multi-nation deal edhopper Apr 2015 #9

good, though the rethugs, could isolate us from the rest of the world if God forbid they win the WH still_one Apr 2015 #13

No doubt they will edhopper Apr 2015 #16

hopefully, that won't happen still_one Apr 2015 #17

hopefully edhopper Apr 2015 #20

But we are the UN's enforcement arm davidn3600 Apr 2015 #14

Sanctions are a big part of this for Iran edhopper Apr 2015 #18

Good to hear it doesn't all depend on the worthless GOP. misterhighwasted Apr 2015 #28

Yes, because this is an International Agreement, involving five other nations. Congress has no sabrina 1 Apr 2015 #10

As pointed out, they can undo the U.S. participation in it, after President Obama's term by the next still_one Apr 2015 #12

It doesn't matter who is in the WH, this will be almost written in stone, unless Iran violates sabrina 1 Apr 2015 #15

As Cotton pointed out, "Tehran, the capital of Iran, might be controlled by anyone other than Iran". still_one Apr 2015 #21

They have no credibility. And as I said, even if they succeeded in pressuring the Western nations sabrina 1 Apr 2015 #23

And you think that would matter? Savannahmann Apr 2015 #22

They will have to get past five powerful nations, AND Iran to try to undo this. sabrina 1 Apr 2015 #24

We can tear it up on our own.... davidn3600 Apr 2015 #25

The US can and does have unilateral sanctions against countries without UN approval. See Cuba. nt kelly1mm Apr 2015 #34

So much is at stake in 2016. misterhighwasted Apr 2015 #29

TeaParTY people are dumb, immature, children. That they have some power here is absolutely NoJusticeNoPeace Apr 2015 #26

+100000000000000. ^THIS^ misterhighwasted Apr 2015 #32

Ultimately, the Senate has the right to approve or disaprove. Agnosticsherbet Apr 2015 #27

This is not a treaty Renew Deal Apr 2015 #36

Good Agnosticsherbet Apr 2015 #38

Depends on the republicans. onecaliberal Apr 2015 #30

I think that Republicans hope to deny Obama a big win in his legacy. Agnosticsherbet Apr 2015 #39

Republicans know their grandchildren will be going to Barack Obama High School Renew Deal Apr 2015 #40

This is a major win for the Obama administration onecaliberal Apr 2015 #41