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kcjohn1

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112. Yes, I do

Sat Apr 4, 2015, 03:16 PM

Apr 2015

Some are harder than others, but I do have empathy for criminals. Prison is no cakewalk and although most have done horrible things, I can empathize with people losing their freedom. Empathy =/= let them go free. You don't think its waste of human life rotting in prison?

I do not believe repeat rapists should be walking around. This is public safety issue. Nor do I think someone who commits any crime should be sentenced to life sentence because it makes us feel better. I like the Norway model in which its #1) about public safety #2) help the criminal so that they are not repeat offenders and danger to the public.

In this particular, do you think he really presents a public safety risk to put him away from 18 years? That is why the sentence is ridiculous. Only way to justify the 18 years is because people are being punitive.

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revenge porn site operator cries at his sentencing [View all] Liberal_in_LA Apr 2015 OP

My heart is breaking for him. In_The_Wind Apr 2015 #1

My wind is breaking at him. Eleanors38 Apr 2015 #4

I'll eat a few hard boiled eggs washed down with beer and join you. In_The_Wind Apr 2015 #6

May I suggest adding some cruciferous veggies for that extra "pop" LiberalElite Apr 2015 #18

broccoli is a hammer. You can toot Suwannee River with that. Eleanors38 Apr 2015 #51

We don't want to overlook asparagus, brussels sprouts, or cabbage. In_The_Wind Apr 2015 #77

But one has to consider the danger of a breach burst. Eleanors38 Apr 2015 #84

BTW, the full-on Level 4 Biohazard recipe I got from my brother hatrack Apr 2015 #298

I love cabbage. Aerows Apr 2015 #85

14X? Wimpy. But cabbage is good. I liken it to... Eleanors38 Apr 2015 #89

My favorite Veggies are yuiyoshida Apr 2015 #90

My favorite addiction Demeter Apr 2015 #93

I love both Aerows Apr 2015 #102

I haven't mastered that, either Demeter Apr 2015 #103

Maybe I can find a how to video for you yuiyoshida Apr 2015 #122

I will have to keep the batter cold, it seems Demeter Apr 2015 #148

Do you keep an ice cube in the batter? kristopher Apr 2015 #135

I once read somewhere that using soda water hifiguy Apr 2015 #138

OMG!!!! Aerows Apr 2015 #98

I love being close to Japanese cooking.. yuiyoshida Apr 2015 #126

Ok decided to make tempura tonight. Have to morn his sentencing. Katashi_itto Apr 2015 #204

I'm a corned beef and cabbage fan. Ever fart so hard yer back cracks? Saves on chiropractor brewens Apr 2015 #133

Well, I do like Aerows Apr 2015 #183

oh my!! 2naSalit Apr 2015 #281

bottomfeeder as well as all those that participated with him. nt seabeyond Apr 2015 #2

Poor guy didn't realize that extortion is illegal LiberalAndProud Apr 2015 #3

This ^ ^ ^ Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Apr 2015 #163

Jesus wept. nt msanthrope Apr 2015 #5

Fuck him. Lochloosa Apr 2015 #7

This guy is a scumbag but... EL34x4 Apr 2015 #8

Agreed alcibiades_mystery Apr 2015 #9

He ruined thousands of lives. not just a few Liberal_in_LA Apr 2015 #12

if someone assaulted thousands of individuals would 18 years be too much? KittyWampus Apr 2015 #14

If someone is a violent predator... EL34x4 Apr 2015 #29

he was making an awful lot of money destroying womens lives. priority, right dude? seabeyond Apr 2015 #31

So hit him wear hit hurts. EL34x4 Apr 2015 #41

Prison for 18 years is a good place to start REP Apr 2015 #42

yeah mercuryblues Apr 2015 #45

i choose, lose his freedom. as he took it away from all those women. seabeyond Apr 2015 #49

^^That. Orrex Apr 2015 #100

Brilliant. The Green Manalishi Apr 2015 #290

What is the motivation to write checks to people for the rest of his life? He'd be better off not MillennialDem Apr 2015 #92

He is dangerous gollygee Apr 2015 #166

why not do both? Blue_Tires Apr 2015 #190

For profit prisons prefer nonviolent offenders. LiberalAndProud Apr 2015 #81

Oooh, probation, that'll stop the next guy. geek tragedy Apr 2015 #208

he extorted people. eighteen is too few. the only thing missing was a gun in his hand roguevalley Apr 2015 #71

Well, I don't think most armed robbers should get 18 years either, for what it's worth alcibiades_mystery Apr 2015 #127

If they committed armed robbery thousands of times gollygee Apr 2015 #167

he published THOUSANDS of photos. That's a lot of individuals who each deserve justice. KittyWampus Apr 2015 #10

Agreed. nt cwydro Apr 2015 #22

365 days a year, so 3 years is just over 1k days. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Apr 2015 #211

Extortionists need to do alot of time. bravenak Apr 2015 #11

^This ScreamingMeemie Apr 2015 #36

Not to mention that once those pics have been posted, there is no way to ever make sure they are tblue37 Apr 2015 #101

They might show up in background checks for work. bravenak Apr 2015 #108

a lifetime for the victims, but tears for 18 yrs of this mans life. the one who caused it. nt seabeyond Apr 2015 #114

Fuck his tears. I drink his tears with delight and piss them out. bravenak Apr 2015 #117

yup. nt seabeyond Apr 2015 #150

Spot On! eom LittleGirl Apr 2015 #157

+10 million!!!! Nt riderinthestorm Apr 2015 #178

Right you are. He haz a sad? Only for himself, and not the women he destroyed. nt Hekate Apr 2015 #218

LOL mercuryblues Apr 2015 #219

Yup. F4lconF16 Apr 2015 #250

Agreed! Boofuckinghoo! Needs to be locked up because he's missing essentials. Empathy and Ethics. freshwest Apr 2015 #258

That was my first thought as well. Jamastiene Apr 2015 #317

yep you nailed it nt steve2470 Apr 2015 #149

He's not going to be posting any more naked pictures. alphafemale Apr 2015 #13

Maybe it's the extortion angle of the crime lunatica Apr 2015 #15

That's exactly it. hifiguy Apr 2015 #23

Extortion is bad dolphinsandtuna Apr 2015 #251

Given the reality of today's sentencing he will probably be out in 18 Months. It's not like he did Vincardog Apr 2015 #16

Maybe you should join him pintobean Apr 2015 #17

So lets work for longer sentences for rape and murder REP Apr 2015 #19

Exactly. cwydro Apr 2015 #25

that would be the obvious, right? ty. nt seabeyond Apr 2015 #27

Stop making sense! beam me up scottie Apr 2015 #39

Forty years ago, many anti-rape activists pushed for shorter sentences than Life... Eleanors38 Apr 2015 #57

not draconian mercuryblues Apr 2015 #26

but... that would only be a womans life affected, this is a man's life being affected. seabeyond Apr 2015 #28

No shit mercuryblues Apr 2015 #40

Bingo! Jamastiene Apr 2015 #318

Everyone who thinks this sentence is harsh should read THIS POST^^^ beam me up scottie Apr 2015 #152

I think it swayed me. Hassin Bin Sober Apr 2015 #266

I think our first reaction is that 18 yrs is too long for simply posting nude pics beam me up scottie Apr 2015 #284

he "earned" $30k total, not $30k a month thesquanderer Apr 2015 #158

I understood differently mercuryblues Apr 2015 #184

+1,000,000 nt Tree-Hugger Apr 2015 #188

Deterrence value rjsquirrel Apr 2015 #30

How about the women whose lives HE fucked up? Warpy Apr 2015 #46

You just KNOW he thinks all his problems (including the prison term) are women's fault. nt tblue37 Apr 2015 #106

He didn't care about his victims at all even when presented evidence of their suffering... stevenleser Apr 2015 #154

On review, the sentence is a little harsh. Maybe dial it back 8 yes. Eleanors38 Apr 2015 #52

why? harsh is the life the women will live. this is justice for thousands of people roguevalley Apr 2015 #74

Maybe so. I'm not going to die on the hill of his sentence... Eleanors38 Apr 2015 #80

More pro prison rape crap. Very useful. HERVEPA Apr 2015 #137

Actually, I was thinking living with himself. What were you thinking? Eleanors38 Apr 2015 #301

I said what I was thinking. Sorry if I misunderstood. HERVEPA Apr 2015 #303

some details about his despicable actions Liberal_in_LA Apr 2015 #130

"Bollaert prompted users to also share...including name, age and address" beam me up scottie Apr 2015 #153

I do wish there was a way to publish the names of the cads who sent this stuff in to him.... Hekate Apr 2015 #282

+1. you are so right on. but... bottomfeeders, not cads. otherwise, i totally agree with post. nt seabeyond Apr 2015 #293

Limited space in subject line... Hekate Apr 2015 #295

it is a good solution to warn future women considering getting into relationships with the asses. nt seabeyond Apr 2015 #296

where is that anonymous group when we need them Liberal_in_LA Apr 2015 #312

Well, this is just a "women's issue" as you can tell from the handful of apologists in this thread Hekate Apr 2015 #313

He's a stinker. He will be smelling a lot of himself, now. Eleanors38 Apr 2015 #302

He needs to suffer TNNurse Apr 2015 #54

Given the number of victims? It's on the low end. nt msanthrope Apr 2015 #73

i have to agree with you. barbtries Apr 2015 #82

True, he may not be holding the razor at their Ilsa Apr 2015 #107

thank you Ilsa. barbtries Apr 2015 #172

See post 26 for a small tally of the harm he caused, up to and including suicide. Hekate Apr 2015 #109

thank you barbtries Apr 2015 #171

I am also mercuryblues Apr 2015 #221

4 yrs is nothing. it is insulting, and i agree, a whole other blow to you. i am sorry seabeyond Apr 2015 #223

Why did your daughter's killer get only 4 years? That sounds like the travesty pnwmom Apr 2015 #253

it was a travesty. barbtries Apr 2015 #255

I am so very sorry, barbtries. pnwmom Apr 2015 #256

thank you pnwmom barbtries Apr 2015 #263

Extortion and blackmail. My heart just bleeds for the bastard. Hekate Apr 2015 #88

He'll be out sooner with 840high Apr 2015 #97

Welcome to DU, EL34x4! calimary Apr 2015 #124

Really? You can't see it? So what standard does one have to reach in your opinion Rex Apr 2015 #142

How much time do you think someone should get for extortion? PoliticAverse Apr 2015 #143

A little time per victim times a lot of victims = a lot of time gollygee Apr 2015 #160

It's six days per victim. jeff47 Apr 2015 #175

Send me some pics and I'll explain it to you. Lochloosa Apr 2015 #191

No thanks EL34x4 Apr 2015 #195

And if they were your wife's or daughter's? geek tragedy Apr 2015 #210

Of course, I'd be pissed. EL34x4 Apr 2015 #216

Not just pictures, personal info including names and addresses. beam me up scottie Apr 2015 #217

You just don't get it. This was not about the money Lochloosa Apr 2015 #224

Did he really ruin careers? EL34x4 Apr 2015 #233

it was not just 1000 nude photos published without permission. JimDandy Apr 2015 #248

"Rapists and murderers don't serve that much time?" Blue_Tires Apr 2015 #193

Rapists and murderers don't have thousands of victims. pnwmom Apr 2015 #252

Agree. A guy I grew up with was murdered by his father in law. Hassin Bin Sober Apr 2015 #265

Disappointed in lack of empathy kcjohn1 Apr 2015 #20

He didn't show empathy to the thousands who begged him in emails not to publish Liberal_in_LA Apr 2015 #21

That is why he is going to prison kcjohn1 Apr 2015 #44

understood Liberal_in_LA Apr 2015 #132

ckjohn? really? ya. whatever. action/reaction. repercussions with choice made. nt seabeyond Apr 2015 #24

I agree kcjohn1 Apr 2015 #47

The 18 years reflects statements by him where he clearly enjoyed the suffering of his victims as stevenleser Apr 2015 #182

oh that poor mercuryblues Apr 2015 #189

WTF mercuryblues Apr 2015 #32

I guess this where we disagree kcjohn1 Apr 2015 #53

you say you do not mean to diminish the pain of victim, as you continue to do just that. seabeyond Apr 2015 #59

please tell me how i did that? kcjohn1 Apr 2015 #65

You show no empathy toward his victims and only talk about poor old him. Rex Apr 2015 #147

whether mercuryblues Apr 2015 #76

Do we quantify suffering and damage to his victims? ismnotwasm Apr 2015 #78

It's a shame you don't have any empathy for his victims. Rex Apr 2015 #145

nah I am not agreeing to disagree. mercuryblues Apr 2015 #197

You're trying to be reasonable here and that's your problem sammythecat Apr 2015 #272

Oh you're right rjsquirrel Apr 2015 #33

He wasn't sentenced to death. He destroyed lives, while claiming his was destroyed worse. ScreamingMeemie Apr 2015 #34

Empathy for the victims? REP Apr 2015 #35

Empathy definition kcjohn1 Apr 2015 #63

empathy. i would be sad, that he chose to create this outcome. that does not mean seabeyond Apr 2015 #68

And still no empathy for his victims. beam me up scottie Apr 2015 #72

empathy / sympathy for victims kcjohn1 Apr 2015 #95

Do you have empathy for every criminal who loses a "huge chunk of his life"? beam me up scottie Apr 2015 #99

Yes, I do kcjohn1 Apr 2015 #112

So you don't believe that the enormous number of victims should be considered? beam me up scottie Apr 2015 #119

what we are debating is the 18 years kcjohn1 Apr 2015 #129

Dude, YOU are the one who brought up rape. beam me up scottie Apr 2015 #136

the scale of the crime fit the sentence. empathy works for victims too and you don't seem roguevalley Apr 2015 #75

A rape victim lives with it forever. REP Apr 2015 #134

I can't say here what'd I'd have done to him. alphafemale Apr 2015 #48

Yeah, look at all the posts calling for torturing and murdering the little shit. beam me up scottie Apr 2015 #50

Lack of empathy? He destroyed lives. Hekate Apr 2015 #113

Exactly. Those photo will still be around in 30/40 years. SwissTony Apr 2015 #273

some child says.... oh, gonna google moms name. well lookie. it isnt right. nt seabeyond Apr 2015 #276

I can also imagine a high school teacher who dumped a boyfriend who had talked her into photos... Hekate Apr 2015 #314

He published their personal info, placing them in danger suffragette Apr 2015 #115

So where is your empathy for the untold number of victims!? Rex Apr 2015 #144

Little bit of time per victim times a lot of victims = a lot of time gollygee Apr 2015 #161

Fuck this POS trumad Apr 2015 #164

Yeah, seriously. Fuck this guy. Frank Cannon Apr 2015 #186

I think he's well and truly fucked already. Orsino Apr 2015 #308

I see what you did there.... trumad Apr 2015 #309

Well, I tend to agree... Orsino Apr 2015 #310

It's six days per victim. jeff47 Apr 2015 #176

It says thousands plural gollygee Apr 2015 #227

And I've come across "over 10,000" jeff47 Apr 2015 #262

You poor dear soul. DeSwiss Apr 2015 #300

I have to ask where these newbie posters come from Demeter Apr 2015 #37

DI? they follow us pretty close. lots of empathy for the misogynist pigs. nt seabeyond Apr 2015 #55

What or who is DI? Demeter Apr 2015 #58

the crazy uncle of DU, another board connected to du. nt seabeyond Apr 2015 #61

Got it. I NEVER go there. Demeter Apr 2015 #66

Mercy says nothing about the person to whom it is given Half-Century Man Apr 2015 #67

You are recommending a mercy killing? Demeter Apr 2015 #105

Not a mercy killing Half-Century Man Apr 2015 #118

So Sad RecoveringJournalist Apr 2015 #38

Heh ScreamingMeemie Apr 2015 #43

Perhaps at some point during those 18 years Aerows Apr 2015 #56

There's a reason we're the world's leading jailer. Comrade Grumpy Apr 2015 #60

This guy was a Hit Man Demeter Apr 2015 #64

You nailed it Demeter - it was his lack of remorse regarding his victims, which is where Hestia Apr 2015 #128

Pick one of the disorders characterized by lack of empathy. He seems to have one of them... stevenleser Apr 2015 #156

No, this is not the reason we're the world's leading jailer mountain grammy Apr 2015 #86

We are the world's leading jailer because we love to punish. Comrade Grumpy Apr 2015 #94

Yes, a lot of our sentencing policies are insane mountain grammy Apr 2015 #104

you do the math mercuryblues Apr 2015 #125

i am amazed at those that think punishment too hard. ok. not really amazed, or even surprised. nt seabeyond Apr 2015 #62

wow popular thread IHateTheGOP Apr 2015 #69

My father... haikugal Apr 2015 #70

Yes, he's only sorry for himself. SwissTony Apr 2015 #274

He did a great evil and I hate meanies (even some posting here) laserhaas Apr 2015 #79

I'm surprised he's still alive TexasMommaWithAHat Apr 2015 #83

This might be silly but I bet he's a Republican./NT DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2015 #87

What he did was wrong Politicalboi Apr 2015 #91

Because they didn't extort money from the victime as he did. nt tblue37 Apr 2015 #116

The uploading was not what caused him to be convicted though it may have cstanleytech Apr 2015 #159

Because the jilted lovers did not commit a crime. jeff47 Apr 2015 #174

K&R to the max! nt tblue37 Apr 2015 #96

He only netted $30,000 from his extortion. kwassa Apr 2015 #110

A scumbag to the level of the southern slaveowners and other members of the white male misogynistic power structure AZ Progressive Apr 2015 #111

Not a tough guy now, huh? Helen Borg Apr 2015 #120

Justice is served. 99Forever Apr 2015 #121

The other tragic thing... Helen Borg Apr 2015 #123

His violation: USC 16.574 ¶47.a Scumbag Impersonating a Human Stinky The Clown Apr 2015 #131

. Rex Apr 2015 #139

next up for sentencing Hunter Moore, creator of revenge porn Liberal_in_LA Apr 2015 #140

Hunter Moore is a vile piece of shit, and I hope he ends up doing the same kind bullwinkle428 Apr 2015 #242

Words can never fully express... awoke_in_2003 Apr 2015 #141

technically free speech though PatrynXX Apr 2015 #146

Maybe the other assholes-in-kind on the internet will take notice steve2470 Apr 2015 #151

Not so cocky now eh? Egnever Apr 2015 #155

Sense of entitlement . . . gone! gollygee Apr 2015 #162

Wow, with women as the victims, and a white man as the perp gollygee Apr 2015 #165

And he'll be walking out in less than 10. beam me up scottie Apr 2015 #168

Hopefully other people see what happened to him gollygee Apr 2015 #169

Maybe tkmorris Apr 2015 #279

Yeah, I don't wish physical harm on the little puke either but beam me up scottie Apr 2015 #285

Exactly. Zenlitened Apr 2015 #203

Let's imagine . . . gollygee Apr 2015 #226

Hell, they'd want to put all of us in jail. Zenlitened Apr 2015 #231

He only wanted to make a quick buck ... at others' expense. lpbk2713 Apr 2015 #170

Call the WAAAAHmbulance! WinkyDink Apr 2015 #173

I realize it falls on deaf ears at DU DefenseLawyer Apr 2015 #177

Amazing how much empathy and boo-hoo'ing pops up.... Paladin Apr 2015 #179

It has nothing to do with empathy DefenseLawyer Apr 2015 #180

says a defense lawyer, that would ask for community work cause really the client has a good heart? seabeyond Apr 2015 #220

Yeah, because nothing says justice so much as letting this scumbag do community work KitSileya Apr 2015 #254

The deaf ears are yours. Over many years, this guy cared nothing for those who he hurt. stevenleser Apr 2015 #181

Paying to warehouse people for decades DefenseLawyer Apr 2015 #185

So you think rapists and murderers should only geek tragedy Apr 2015 #207

You have nothing but emotion and intuition to back you up. DefenseLawyer Apr 2015 #213

So if the sentence for murder were 90 days in jail geek tragedy Apr 2015 #214

If child molesting became legal would you start molesting children? DefenseLawyer Apr 2015 #222

Very many people who obey the law do so because geek tragedy Apr 2015 #234

The solution to crime is simple then. Life in prison for all crimes DefenseLawyer Apr 2015 #237

Proportionality is the rule of course. geek tragedy Apr 2015 #239

No, you are assuming and aren't listening. stevenleser Apr 2015 #269

Send me a few pics and I'll explain it to you. Lochloosa Apr 2015 #194

"much less some internet scam artist." NuclearDem Apr 2015 #196

I know he didn't kill anybody DefenseLawyer Apr 2015 #199

You are by far the most self-righteous person geek tragedy Apr 2015 #206

Then in that case he shouldn't do the fuckin' crime... Blue_Tires Apr 2015 #198

yawn trumad Apr 2015 #200

I wasn't expecting abstract thought from the mob DefenseLawyer Apr 2015 #201

Double Yawn trumad Apr 2015 #202

Man, do you ever ride a high horse. Katashi_itto Apr 2015 #209

Removing this swine improves society geek tragedy Apr 2015 #205

If the purpose of our prisons is to "remove swine" DefenseLawyer Apr 2015 #215

That's an emotional response. flvegan Apr 2015 #247

Justice is the last thing on the mind of those seeking revenge. Octafish Apr 2015 #261

Bullshit Cal Carpenter Apr 2015 #267

Well said! bettyellen Apr 2015 #277

Spot on, Cal Carpenter. Hekate Apr 2015 #283

+1000 smirkymonkey Apr 2015 #288

Whole post is gold but this bit Number23 Apr 2015 #291

+1 nt Zorra Apr 2015 #292

+10^10^100 nt stevenleser Apr 2015 #304

I think the "fuck that scumbag" argument is appropriate in this case. Throd Apr 2015 #280

As a criminal defense attorney, I've already expressed that I think he got msanthrope Apr 2015 #299

Yes. Several thousand counts of extortion, etc? stevenleser Apr 2015 #305

He's the type of sociopath who needs prison to keep him from doing harm to msanthrope Apr 2015 #307

Good. I hope he feels some pain. He's ruined many peoples' lives riderinthestorm Apr 2015 #187

Extortion does not pay malaise Apr 2015 #192

Way too long a sentence. Eric J in MN Apr 2015 #212

How about the psychological violence? guillaumeb Apr 2015 #230

Unless of course, one is rational enough to distinguish between the the singular and the collective LanternWaste Apr 2015 #306

They need to be tough on cyber crime marlakay Apr 2015 #225

18 years for a non-violent crime? davidn3600 Apr 2015 #228

18 years for thousands of crimes gollygee Apr 2015 #229

and dismissing the crime to women, no surprise. consistent as always. seabeyond Apr 2015 #232

Rapists and child abusers get less than half what this stupid kid got davidn3600 Apr 2015 #235

"Are you saying what he did was worse?" highly offensive bullshit question. again. no surprise. seabeyond Apr 2015 #236

I've never argued such a thing and Im not going to sit here and argue with you about it davidn3600 Apr 2015 #241

He's not a stupid kid. He's a remorseless predator geek tragedy Apr 2015 #240

People who rape thousands of people or abuse thousands of children? gollygee Apr 2015 #243

In general terms, I might agree with you. randome Apr 2015 #259

Well... eridani Apr 2015 #238

I would love to do a comparison gollygee Apr 2015 #244

point! nt seabeyond Apr 2015 #268

And what about customerserviceguy Apr 2015 #245

yes! n/t Liberal_in_LA Apr 2015 #246

On what grounds, legally? Orrex Apr 2015 #257

Conspiracy to extortion, perhaps? customerserviceguy Apr 2015 #294

That's not a bad idea. Orrex Apr 2015 #297

asshole diane in sf Apr 2015 #249

Boo fucking hoo, creep. catbyte Apr 2015 #260

No one could have anticipated that a misogynistic extortion racket would end badly. nt eppur_se_muova Apr 2015 #264

Fuck this disgusting piece of shit. JTFrog Apr 2015 #270

18 years is probably too much. I could see 5 or 10 but 18 years for a non-violence offense? craigmatic Apr 2015 #271

Not ONE offense--he extorted 1000s of women--18 years is appropriate JimDandy Apr 2015 #278

I wonder if he'll have internet access while he's in prison. Orrex Apr 2015 #275

I wondered about that too. kentauros Apr 2015 #311

So 8 months per count served whistler162 Apr 2015 #286

Hurt people noella17 Apr 2015 #287

He'll serve less than 4 I bet. alphafemale Apr 2015 #289

What I find interesting, is that if he had not extorted the women, he may madinmaryland Apr 2015 #315

When will it be time for the banksters to cry at their sentencings? ~nt~ b.durruti Apr 2015 #316

AMF! Enjoy your vacation! Adrahil Apr 2015 #319