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freshwest

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65. I don't canvass, can't go door to door. But your method sounds very effective.
Sun Apr 5, 2015, 10:13 PM
Apr 2015

People I work are often not even hard line Democrats, but when you explore what is going on, it lets them know that you are one of them. Not to get their vote and run away, not at all, but because their concerns are really ours.

And we don't talk to those who are committed to going against what we are trying to do for those who need help, except when we have a level of agreement. Some will not talk to us at all, they are so narrow minded.

But in all cases, theirs and ours, meetings go on, in community centers, churches, wherever people can get with others and meet - and that is going on daily, like it or not, on both sides. That is grassroots om action. There is little surprise in election results if one really gets out enough.

We also network with those who can go to the capitol to get the ear of elected officials, so they can gauge the interest in legislation. Those who don't bother to talk with respect to a legislator's time - and it is quite valueable, representing the interests of thousands of people not the corporate boogeyman we hear trotted out - is limited. We show respect for them and they vote our way when it's explained to them.

We follow every segment of bills that are being written and add our input and nurse along those who support Democratic values without even bringing up party affliliation. We bring up our case and oppose those things that will hurt people.

It's not the 'blind partisanship' some accuse others of having. It is about principles and ideals. Some would be surprised at DU, I guess, that some of their legislators actually do have those that can be called upon to effect their votes. It's no mystery if you know which chords in them to sound them out on, to see if they support our values.

We often find support for social safety net programs that entail public work employees who are union, it just so happens. We are grateful to their organizing power, as their goals are the same as ours. It just so happens these people will vote for a Democratic candidate and bills. Others who are against unions, public work, the Commons, the safety net, while not all, are often Republicans and always Libertarians and Tea Partiers. And I will add in DINOs. We've really got a big problem with those groups, but they have a big problem with us, too. And it's not about the label. We have even been able to get a GOP to vote with us at times, by appealing to religion, the YET (you're eligible too) for a need that you can't meet, or just whatever they still remember from high school civics class. That we all are Equal and we all deserve a chance to live.

Got to go now, but appreciate the success of your method in the real world. It needs to be explained here more often. I know it doesn't get a lot of Recs often because I don't see many here who seem interested. For every person who says it does not work, you are an example that it does, and you keep your area more liveable for all.

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Whose Democratic Party Is It? [View all] MineralMan Apr 2015 OP
Or as my old boss used to say, the world is run by those who show up tularetom Apr 2015 #1
Exactly. Those who don't show up have no voice. MineralMan Apr 2015 #2
Goldman Sachs Man from Pickens Apr 2015 #3
You know what? Nobody from Goldman Sachs has MineralMan Apr 2015 #5
You are in a very unusual district compared to what the rest of us have to deal with. bvar22 Apr 2015 #28
You know what? There's a reason that's true, and the reason MineralMan Apr 2015 #30
I helped to elect the most liberal President of my voting lifetime Man from Pickens Apr 2015 #35
Been there, done that. 99Forever Apr 2015 #4
We've gotten different results where I am. MineralMan Apr 2015 #7
Not involved now, sure enugh. 99Forever Apr 2015 #9
Too bad, really. If you don't participate, MineralMan Apr 2015 #10
My "voice" wasn't "heard" when I did participate heavily. 99Forever Apr 2015 #11
I have no cash to offer, either. MineralMan Apr 2015 #12
Just like anything else Bobbie Jo Apr 2015 #18
Well, yes. That's not the right approach. MineralMan Apr 2015 #22
And when you walk in off the street ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2015 #62
DU Can be a source of people who want to act. qwlauren35 Apr 2015 #21
The only donation ever received in my district from a DUer came from me. MineralMan Apr 2015 #23
Could you be specific as to what promises were made to you and what issues you felt cheated on? Bluenorthwest Apr 2015 #13
This message was self-deleted by its author CK_John Apr 2015 #44
Where do you live? It worked for many of us before the 80s but for red states it may very well feel jwirr Apr 2015 #17
Thanks. The Minnesota DFL Party has a great system MineralMan Apr 2015 #19
I have a very important question for you, MM... MrMickeysMom Apr 2015 #6
Yes. I've been active in my own local Democratic organization since I moved MineralMan Apr 2015 #8
You said you had a good reason to ask me that question. MineralMan Apr 2015 #14
As I mentioned just now in your PM... MrMickeysMom Apr 2015 #39
Well and good that you say this, but even if a progressive tries this in Philadelphia GoneOffShore Apr 2015 #15
If you say so. I've never even been to Philadelphia, so I couldn't say. MineralMan Apr 2015 #16
Could be worse, you could live in south Texas. Rex Apr 2015 #31
Who owns the Democratic Party? Martin Eden Apr 2015 #20
Not at the local level. Not at all. MineralMan Apr 2015 #25
Do local organizations make an enormous difference in national elections? Martin Eden Apr 2015 #27
We make zero difference in Presidential elections. MineralMan Apr 2015 #29
Yes, there is much more to politics than POTUS Martin Eden Apr 2015 #34
That's where you are MM... MrMickeysMom Apr 2015 #42
I think you may be understating the amount of time it takes. qwlauren35 Apr 2015 #24
I'm doing it. You're talking about 12 hours a week. MineralMan Apr 2015 #26
But most people don't need to volunteer; they just need to pay attention to make a difference Chathamization Apr 2015 #52
Mine all mine. Rex Apr 2015 #32
Ah yes, the Local activism to change the national dialogue. Savannahmann Apr 2015 #33
Whose Democratic Party is it? bvar22 Apr 2015 #36
The reality vs. the fantasy. 99Forever Apr 2015 #37
MM is right ONLY in that... bvar22 Apr 2015 #43
As will I. 99Forever Apr 2015 #49
At the top level? Jamie Dimon? djean111 Apr 2015 #38
You mean, do hard work? brooklynite Apr 2015 #40
I agree. This is one of the only avenues accessible to the 99% PowerToThePeople Apr 2015 #41
$$$$'s no money no influence. nt JanMichael Apr 2015 #45
The party belongs to those who show up 365 days somewhere. Not just in precincts, but networking. nt freshwest Apr 2015 #46
Yes, and that's where places like DU help. MineralMan Apr 2015 #47
It helps for information. But the face to face, reminding others that we care about their lives, freshwest Apr 2015 #63
Well said. MineralMan Apr 2015 #64
I don't canvass, can't go door to door. But your method sounds very effective. freshwest Apr 2015 #65
True. We can't blame the oligarchs for our apathy and disengagement. The choice is ours. Chathamization Apr 2015 #48
Same line I hear about cops, join and change the corrupt system...yeah, right. U4ikLefty Apr 2015 #50
So, then, what's your suggestion for elections? MineralMan Apr 2015 #51
I know how I will vote & that will NOT be for Hillary or any IWR pimp. U4ikLefty Apr 2015 #53
I don't keep lists, except for registered voters in my precinct. MineralMan Apr 2015 #55
I'm sure the many, many, many dead Iraqis will thank you for your support of Hillary. U4ikLefty Apr 2015 #57
I'm not supporting anyone for President in 2016. MineralMan Apr 2015 #58
We have a similar hard line U4ikLefty Apr 2015 #59
As always, excellent advice, MM! eom BlueCaliDem Apr 2015 #54
Thanks! Happy Easter to you. MineralMan Apr 2015 #56
You're very welcome, MM. Happy Easter to you and yours, too! BlueCaliDem Apr 2015 #60
Wall Street's. (see Citizen's United Decision). Zorra Apr 2015 #61
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