Stop The Construction the TMT Telescope on Mauna Kea and the Arrest of Mauna Kea Protectors

[freshwest]

114. I may have missed it, but you might do better to tell Ellisonz their belief system is medieval.

In general, putting native belief systems in that category is not a winning strategy with them.

And that's not the case I was making to Ellisonz. I remarked on the man's presentation and believe he was speaking about much more than religion.

It appeared to be more about sovereignty and the theft of the Hawaiian islands by westerners in some eyes. They may term it colonialism, imperialism, racism or corruption. A backlash is growing, acknowledged by the United Nations.

The speaker and other natives claimed continued development is polluting the ocean that they make their living from. I made the case also, in my reply to him as an Hawaiian native, that for the greater good this might have to be done.

What if TMT prevents the larger catastrophes that some ancient traditions predict is coming?

But they don't believe those who are coming in. As to the conditions on the site, you may be right, it's inimicable to human or other life forms, but they don't care. They consider it to be their property.

That's all I was saying. As I said, you might want to take up the religion issue with Ellisonz as he lives among these folks, not me. Personally, I have no objection if the operations of the facility don't pollute. But I am of the dominant culture in the USA.