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21. Don't mix Arizona up with California

Mon Apr 6, 2015, 06:18 PM

Apr 2015

Arizona uses less total water now than in the 50's
Arizona has long regulated ground water.
Arizona has been pumping excess water (and yes, we still have more water than we can use) back INTO aquifers to be used when needed.
Arizona has strict rules on growth - long term water supplies are required before building is allowed.

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Let's say the drought lasts for the next fifty years [View all] dissentient Apr 2015 OP

Those who can move out will. yeoman6987 Apr 2015 #1

That is what is worrying, all those millions are going to have to go somewhere dissentient Apr 2015 #2

We have 47 states of which quite a few have very little population yeoman6987 Apr 2015 #3

I'm sorry to tell you this... Xithras Apr 2015 #14

Oh rats! Such possibilities. yeoman6987 Apr 2015 #30

I wonder how hard it would be to sell a house at that point. Adsos Letter Apr 2015 #40

47 states? panader0 Apr 2015 #50

Probably discounting Alaska and Hawaii MissB Apr 2015 #52

Let's take a page from Putin and annex British Columbia and the Northwest Territories! FSogol Apr 2015 #4

spit my water out� somehow that really tickled my funnybone. KittyWampus Apr 2015 #16

that has been tried before guillaumeb Apr 2015 #53

If you are referring to the Fenian Brotherhood's plans, that is hardly, the US FSogol Apr 2015 #57

I once lived in the Atacama Desert and it doesn't get drier than that. Cleita Apr 2015 #5

Now what? California figures out what to do about decades of uncontrolled growth... Buzz Clik Apr 2015 #6

Farmers will have to change their irrigation methods Warpy Apr 2015 #7

Late last year 2naSalit Apr 2015 #64

Maybe sometime before that someone that matters could look around the world and see what others nationalize the fed Apr 2015 #8

Desalinization still has some serious technical issues metalbot Apr 2015 #35

True, and Desalination should only be used as last resort, after ALL other means are employed. NYC_SKP Apr 2015 #49

Agriculture in California, Arizona, New Mexico collapses, and Oklahoma, Kansas, and Texas enter a dust Agnosticsherbet Apr 2015 #9

Don't mix Arizona up with California dbackjon Apr 2015 #21

Arizona's issues will have to do with tapping enough power to keep everyone cool in "summer" villager Apr 2015 #41

Arizona exports electricity to California dbackjon Apr 2015 #45

Just to be clear: You imagine Arizona is sustainable in the long-term? Phoenix-area growth and all? villager Apr 2015 #48

Residential uses far less water than AG dbackjon Apr 2015 #61

Which doesn't quite answer the question in terms of overall sustainability villager Apr 2015 #65

Arizona has enough water for a population of 30 million dbackjon Apr 2015 #67

Indeed. And Colorado river water for the Yuma area may not be infinite. villager Apr 2015 #70

Here's the thing - Arizona is a big state dbackjon Apr 2015 #71

The entire southwest shares a climate. Arizona is part of the Southwest. Agnosticsherbet Apr 2015 #56

That is not really accurate dbackjon Apr 2015 #68

What we are seeing in California and elsewhere in the West is Human created Climate Change. Agnosticsherbet Apr 2015 #69

I'd like to see a link pscot Apr 2015 #60

I will link in morning dbackjon Apr 2015 #62

It is not an easy Google pscot Apr 2015 #63

Here is an interview dbackjon Apr 2015 #66

Maybe they could build these giant Malraiders Apr 2015 #10

+ Infinity Pooka Fey Apr 2015 #12

Put up lots of these? Maedhros Apr 2015 #11

No, we prefer to wait thank you Politicalboi Apr 2015 #13

American Exceptionalism will solve it all! RKP5637 Apr 2015 #54

within 4 years hundreds of small town abandoned as they rely on ground water wells... 4139 Apr 2015 #15

your timeline might be right though. It could go downhill very, very quickly, IMO. KittyWampus Apr 2015 #18

Timeline: current modest El Ni�o followed by drought generating La Ni�a... 4139 Apr 2015 #27

Move, adapt, or die. bluedigger Apr 2015 #17

Nuclear and Solar powered desalination plants madville Apr 2015 #19

Yeah, but that's thinking big. I wonder if our government can even do stuff like that anymore. KittyWampus Apr 2015 #20

Not to mention the environmental hurdles madville Apr 2015 #25

And the waste from these plants? dbackjon Apr 2015 #22

sell it as sea salt? KittyWampus Apr 2015 #24

Back into the ocean or pipeline madville Apr 2015 #28

Overall no, but pumping it directly into the sea, especially near shore, would have a devistating dbackjon Apr 2015 #31

You have to decide which outcome sucks less. madville Apr 2015 #34

Desal should be a last resort idea dbackjon Apr 2015 #37

Okay. I need to say something here... Scootaloo Apr 2015 #39

I personally don't think the Earth Politicalboi Apr 2015 #23

I love the idea of homes having two water lines. Such a good idea. KittyWampus Apr 2015 #26

I was thinking the other day in the shower if Politicalboi Apr 2015 #32

The damage from climate change will rapidly cause irreversible harm to billions. NoJusticeNoPeace Apr 2015 #29

That is too bad about the karma Politicalboi Apr 2015 #36

The Earth has been here -4 Billion years Paulie Apr 2015 #38

We've never experienced glacier melt Politicalboi Apr 2015 #46

Pipe in water from Oregon to keep the golf courses green, of course Scootaloo Apr 2015 #33

Water prices will go up Travis_0004 Apr 2015 #42

The agriculture industry will be forever changed. herding cats Apr 2015 #43

Seems every DUer that doesn't live here upaloopa Apr 2015 #44

I know, I live here Politicalboi Apr 2015 #47

+1 PasadenaTrudy Apr 2015 #59

I'm sure the aliens will invade before then. Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2015 #51

I live in San Diego honeylady Apr 2015 #55

I've been here 51 years now PasadenaTrudy Apr 2015 #58