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34. We will see what happens. Technically Obama doesn't need any of these assholes in Congress. He can

Mon Apr 6, 2015, 07:15 PM

Apr 2015

sign the agreement with the other countries. When his term is up, yes, they can withdraw from the agreement, but if the agreement holds internationally, then it would be us against the world, and effectively short of a pre-emptive war it would be meaningless what they do.

Personally I think there will be a few Senate republicans to support it.

I also am skeptical about anything coming out of politico.

It is going to get interesting. One thing I do believe, if by some reason the Senate was able to over-ride a veto, it would have to happen with democratic support, and if that is the case, and we actually go to war because of that, the Democrats will lose in 2016, and it won't just be from the liberal or left participants of the party, but many moderates also give up on the Democrats and stay home.

Keep in mind I do not think that is going to happen, and I also think the media is going to do everything in their power to try and build friction and division, but I believe a deal will go through

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Schumer bucks White House on Iran - throws his weight behind legislation to reject a deal [View all] tracks29 Apr 2015 OP

Oh fuck it then, lets have a world war NoJusticeNoPeace Apr 2015 #1

It is starting to look that way. Octafish Apr 2015 #55

Obama can and should veto any bill this disgraceful Congress passes. He has stated that that is sabrina 1 Apr 2015 #90

+ 1000 n/t MBS Apr 2015 #108

I liked what he said during Iran-Contra... Octafish Apr 2015 #111

Schumer is terrible. And that's saying something. blkmusclmachine Apr 2015 #2

Chuck the Smuck!!! Wellstone ruled Apr 2015 #67

in agreement 2banon Apr 2015 #71

+1 And I am not referring to IP, either. merrily Apr 2015 #106

Is Schumer one of those "party loyalists" so popular around here? Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2015 #3

All Democrats Are Sacred - It Hath Been Writ In Stone cantbeserious Apr 2015 #7

Well, he is a Democrat and that's never popular with the 3rd party squatters around here. great white snark Apr 2015 #13

Real Democrats recognize that all Democrats are not equal. Some Democrats rhett o rick Apr 2015 #42

Real Democrats dont say they wont vote for the winner of the Primary if a certain woman wins... VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #65

I am glad to see the head of the party is back. Dragonfli Apr 2015 #73

Nice to see you enter the discussion. Real Democrats don't betray their Party and rhett o rick Apr 2015 #82

You said a MOUTHFUL! VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #64

I don't understand. Anyone who runs as (D) emocrat pretty much has to be a Dem Party merrily Apr 2015 #107

What else is new? n/t Jefferson23 Apr 2015 #4

This ^^^ Egnever Apr 2015 #15

According to this and I hope it's true.. "US Congress like Bibi are irrelevant.." Cha Apr 2015 #86

Agreed Gothmog Apr 2015 #113

That is what Obama may need to do, ultimately..in the end. I am not confident about Jefferson23 Apr 2015 #115

Shame on Schumer.. I hope Harry Reid decides he doesn't want him as the Minority Leader after all Cha Apr 2015 #118

Me too. The article on the Bipartisan 50, that is one heck of an endorsement. Although Jefferson23 Apr 2015 #119

I am naive, but I still expect the deal to be endorsed by the Senate. n/t lumberjack_jeff Apr 2015 #5

What I don't understand is whether the "disapproval" is binding. Renew Deal Apr 2015 #6

Since it is an agreement, not a treaty Smithryee Apr 2015 #17

Constitutionally the congress can't do anything. onecaliberal Apr 2015 #68

So if they want a symbolic disapproval then it's meaningless. Renew Deal Apr 2015 #69

The optics are not meaningless. onecaliberal Apr 2015 #72

If he is one of the most influential voices and the administration is igoring him Johonny Apr 2015 #8

Ignore congress. Get the deal passed by the UNSC. nt LittleBlue Apr 2015 #9

Three word: Israeli owned Congress! nt kelliekat44 Apr 2015 #10

Everyone ought to take note of comments like this one oberliner Apr 2015 #43

and your problem with senators owned by any one particular lobbying group is....? nt msongs Apr 2015 #77

Damn near! And he's going to be the Democratic Senate Leader after Reid leaves. sheesh. 2banon Apr 2015 #74

Fuck schumer. This asshole cannot be allowed to take over for Harry. onecaliberal Apr 2015 #11

Goddamn right. n/t tabasco Apr 2015 #63

Schumer needs to be shown the door. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2015 #80

Agree! onecaliberal Apr 2015 #83

I don't like Schumer. Ugh Laurian Apr 2015 #12

Pathetic ChiefJusticeIV Apr 2015 #14

When Insannity was on local radio in NYC, he called him "Upchucky Schumer" KamaAina Apr 2015 #16

Corker said yesterday that he is up to 64 votes madville Apr 2015 #18

What about the House? They would need 43 Dems votes krawhitham Apr 2015 #19

That's not many as far as the House goes madville Apr 2015 #25

I do not like him. bravenak Apr 2015 #20

chuck was there when bibi spoke to congress.... spanone Apr 2015 #21

UGH! MoonRiver Apr 2015 #22

Fuck you Chuck. neverforget Apr 2015 #23

No surprises. n/t Scootaloo Apr 2015 #24

I expect he's playing to donors. Marr Apr 2015 #26

I agree. The deal is going to happen. still_one Apr 2015 #35

This is why democrats are such winners abelenkpe Apr 2015 #27

Yeah...like some stick together on DU VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #66

Don't you ever stop fucking cheerleading? truebrit71 Apr 2015 #79

This is my surprised face. Aerows Apr 2015 #28

Chuck just got his marching orders from Israel. He's a good soldier for them. BillZBubb Apr 2015 #29

Follow the money. To who does Schumer owe felicity and allegiance? Not his own President, apparently Fred Sanders Apr 2015 #36

Corporate money talks and Schumer is listening. diabeticman Apr 2015 #30

I'm no fan of Schumer. City Lights Apr 2015 #31

Wonder how big the check was hifiguy Apr 2015 #32

. AngryAmish Apr 2015 #33

We will see what happens. Technically Obama doesn't need any of these assholes in Congress. He can still_one Apr 2015 #34

So, will you enlist when you start the war with Iran? muntrv Apr 2015 #37

". . . I support the Corker bill . . ." Major Hogwash Apr 2015 #38

Schumer's an ass. N/t Owl Apr 2015 #39

this schmuck is my Senator dorkzilla Apr 2015 #40

Count me among one of the many liberal Jews... Smithryee Apr 2015 #46

He's one of my senators LiberalElite Apr 2015 #41

Peter King is looking to take his seat oberliner Apr 2015 #44

Zero chance. Smithryee Apr 2015 #48

D'Amato had the seat for nearly 20 years before Schumer oberliner Apr 2015 #51

I remember D'Amato - and no, King isn't.. Smithryee Apr 2015 #56

Of course he is oberliner Apr 2015 #57

Unlikely he could pull it off. Renew Deal Apr 2015 #70

Pick a country, Schumer. Hell Hath No Fury Apr 2015 #45

Dems who will vote for this bill ann--- Apr 2015 #54

Schumer, best buddy of Wall Street = Thespian2 Apr 2015 #47

Let him hear from you. IL Lib Apr 2015 #49

Another pro-war neocon Democrat. He loved the Iraq war too, so of course now he wants war with Iran geek tragedy Apr 2015 #50

Democrats ann--- Apr 2015 #52

What a fucking vile comment that is. Bluenorthwest Apr 2015 #61

Wow, glad you edited out that anti- Semitic comment but would still love to know bettyellen Apr 2015 #85

I despise no one ann--- Apr 2015 #92

It wasn't a matter of your not supporting Israel, it was your anti-Semitic comment. Behind the Aegis Apr 2015 #93

So, I guess ann--- Apr 2015 #94

You really shouldn't be assuming anything. Behind the Aegis Apr 2015 #95

Why are they ann--- Apr 2015 #96

They? I only see ONE mentioned in the article. Behind the Aegis Apr 2015 #97

Post removed Post removed Apr 2015 #100

And that is why your comment was anti-Semitic. Behind the Aegis Apr 2015 #102

This message was self-deleted by its author ann--- Apr 2015 #103

Yeah, I can see how anti-Semitism is so passe. Behind the Aegis Apr 2015 #104

Way to try to change the subject from that anti-semitic lovliness you edited out of your above post. Warren DeMontague Apr 2015 #101

no one has to support Israel to belong here cali Apr 2015 #117

this place has been welcoming to those sentiments for some time now JI7 Apr 2015 #98

This thread is a testament to it! Behind the Aegis Apr 2015 #99

sadly cali Apr 2015 #116

What a vile post! With your edits you fool no one! hrmjustin Apr 2015 #89

I'm surprised he didn't sign Cotton's letter dflprincess Apr 2015 #53

Et Tu Chuck? n/t SCVDem Apr 2015 #58

Schumer's a jerk-off... gregcrawford Apr 2015 #59

And this schmuck is in the position to be minority leader? liberal N proud Apr 2015 #60

OK, I guess I will take the abuse. I agree with Senator Schumer in this on principle. The holder kelly1mm Apr 2015 #62

Absolutely not - for two reasons - it is not a treaty and there is no way in hell it could pass as karynnj Apr 2015 #75

So long as congress is not in the loop an approving this (like the Iraq use of force decalaration) kelly1mm Apr 2015 #78

but unilateral us sanctions will have little impact karynnj Apr 2015 #87

it does not meet the definition of a treaty karynnj Apr 2015 #88

This message was self-deleted by its author mulsh Apr 2015 #76

Fuck Chuck. truebrit71 Apr 2015 #81

What @SenSchumer (AIPAC/WallSt) doesn't get is #UNSC will eliminate sanctions if #Iran complies.. Cha Apr 2015 #84

"Money trumps peace". JEB Apr 2015 #91

This is why I said he's not the right person for the job JustAnotherGen Apr 2015 #105

Instead of engaging in a collective wringing of hands and wailing and gnashing of teeth, Skidmore Apr 2015 #109

Not true malaise Apr 2015 #110

I am not sure that Schumer should be Harry Reid's successor Gothmog Apr 2015 #112

Shocked that Schumer didn't see these headlines coming... Mike Nelson Apr 2015 #114

I'll say it again - Warren for Leader! libpride_15 Apr 2015 #120