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Yupster

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42. Davis lived a long time after the war
Tue Apr 7, 2015, 10:52 AM
Apr 2015

He was indicted for treason and spent the rest of his life demanding his trial.

He had a team of high powered northern lawyers and his position was that the southern states left the union legally, were an illegally conquered nation, and would the northern occupying army kindly go back home so he could set to work repairing his torn to shreds unhappy land.

Though the President of the USA was a long time personal enemy of his, he was never given that trial. Eventually he was bailed out of jail by northern millionaires but he was never given his trial.

As far as I know Lee never apologized, but he urged his men to just go home and live useful lives. He was also indicted for treason.

He certainly did. He took the presidency of Washington University and changed it dramatically getting rid of things like Greek and Latin and adding more practical subjects like engineering.

There's a great scene from a letter a student wrote to his family. He wrote that after class, some students took to the field to play a new game called baseball. One day the old general came by on his warhorse Traveller, stopped and sat down to watch the baseball game for a little while.

I thought that is one of those pictures I'd like to see from history that shows the changing of the eras.

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Disagree, seems to be a movement to continue to punish the south. NYC_SKP Apr 2015 #1
we have no business paying to upkeep confederate monuments dsc Apr 2015 #2
There has to be a better way than a federal "you suck" holiday. NYC_SKP Apr 2015 #4
we have basses named after traitorous Confederate Generals dsc Apr 2015 #6
If we had nothing more pressing to do, this might make sense. NYC_SKP Apr 2015 #8
Weak argument. One of the 99 Apr 2015 #37
I disagree that it's "morally right". NYC_SKP Apr 2015 #38
So we should have monuments to racists One of the 99 Apr 2015 #46
We should leve monuments up that were installed in the past and learn from them, yes. NYC_SKP Apr 2015 #47
Another weak argument One of the 99 Apr 2015 #50
Yes, I'm defending monuments to racists-- not to honor them but to remind ourselves. NYC_SKP Apr 2015 #53
But the monuments do honor them One of the 99 Apr 2015 #58
Yes, I AM! NYC_SKP Apr 2015 #59
It's a weak and dishonest argument One of the 99 Apr 2015 #60
and sopranos and altos Yupster Apr 2015 #39
I admire your tenor. Orrex Apr 2015 #40
Two responses to get to Godwin's Law onenote Apr 2015 #17
if the shoe fits dsc Apr 2015 #18
The idea that the shoe fits suggests you need some history lessons. onenote Apr 2015 #19
the only difference between NAZI's and the Confederates dsc Apr 2015 #20
Genocide is different than slavery onenote Apr 2015 #24
Now the Japanese, they were into slavery. oneshooter Apr 2015 #27
Hmmm... Adrahil Apr 2015 #30
You don't think blacks were victims of genocide? JaneyVee Apr 2015 #33
The number of African-Americans in the south before the Civil War Yupster Apr 2015 #41
In the American South? No. onenote Apr 2015 #43
And honoring people who fought a war so that they Zorra Apr 2015 #29
+1000000000000000000000 n/t SickOfTheOnePct Apr 2015 #9
The South is currently punishing us all with Republican control of the country. onehandle Apr 2015 #10
Plenty of republican jerks cwydro Apr 2015 #11
I can name a few from Wisconsin alone Art_from_Ark Apr 2015 #16
Lol! cwydro Apr 2015 #22
Gov Fracking was thankfully kicked out. Smithryee Apr 2015 #25
The lion's share of control is below the Mason-Dixon line. It is the Confederacy 2.0. nt onehandle Apr 2015 #23
there are a lot of repubs elected outside the old confederacy onenote Apr 2015 #28
I agree with you, and not just because I am a southerner steve2470 Apr 2015 #12
The only people I hear re-fighting the Civil War cordelia Apr 2015 #34
I agree steve2470 Apr 2015 #48
There are two types "re-fighting" the Civil War, the bigots and the ones you mentioned. Behind the Aegis Apr 2015 #49
+ Infinity Pooka Fey Apr 2015 #51
All the more reason to do just that. tenderfoot Apr 2015 #55
Rename things named after KKK officers? Nye Bevan Apr 2015 #3
Except he disavowed the KKK. Kingofalldems Apr 2015 #13
Lee did. Not sure about JD Telcontar Apr 2015 #31
Davis lived a long time after the war Yupster Apr 2015 #42
Lee's Amnysty Oath was lost for 140 years Telcontar Apr 2015 #44
I'd be the first to fly a giant-sized white flag off the patio of my Texas apartment. LanternWaste Apr 2015 #5
Perfect! KamaAina Apr 2015 #26
After more recent research, i believe the toll now is estimated at 800k Telcontar Apr 2015 #32
LOL, every day is Confederate Defeat Day! FSogol Apr 2015 #7
Long ago dead, each and every one of them. Bonx Apr 2015 #14
Coming to Us Dead struggle4progress Apr 2015 #15
sounds like a good idea considering how so many still CELEBRATE that era ... napkinz Apr 2015 #21
Thanks for the South bashing thread! It's so unique and liberal. cordelia Apr 2015 #35
As a former NOLA resident, I do not engage in South bashing. KamaAina Apr 2015 #45
I think the South should give all the tax $ they get from the rest of us back! tenderfoot Apr 2015 #57
There Might Be Something To This.... Laxman Apr 2015 #36
I drove through the Appomattox battlefield twice last weekend underpants Apr 2015 #52
But Appomattox Court House was not the last surrender. It wasn't even the largest. El Supremo Apr 2015 #54
How about we just let it go. Ignore the day and everything else about the Confeds NightWatcher Apr 2015 #56
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