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MADem

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171. Javaman, you have one of those nice days, OK?

Fri Dec 23, 2011, 04:19 PM

Dec 2011

I really don't care that you don't agree with me. I don't care about your PeeWee Herman, your dramatic "WOW" comments, and all the fake outrage you're trying to generate over a guy I don't even know, who will not win the Presidential election, and if he even rises to notice by the MSM, will do so on the back of a Rove PAC frantically attempting to divide the progressive vote.

Yes indeed--I am a remarkable individual--most of us in this world are, in one way, or another.

You keep your shovels, and you keep you digs, and perhaps try to be happy for a change, rather than trying to piss people off with manufactured arguments and drama--it just won't work with me. See, I have to care about an issue, and just I don't care about this guy and his silly little Not-On-Most-Ballots Justice Party, and you--by yelling, snarking and pouting at me instead of offering any substantive information--have made damn sure I never will.

Don't tell me that I have to do the work, when YOU are the one trying to make the point--it simply doesn't work that way.

Not in school, not in life, and not on these here "internets."

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Former Salt Lake City mayor Rocky Anderson running for President. A progressive alternative to Obama [View all] Better Believe It Dec 2011 OP

Better think twice. I think Rocky Anderson is a pal of Mitt Romney. limpyhobbler Dec 2011 #1

They sure aren't "pals" anymore! Read what Anderson had to say about Romney in the interview. Better Believe It Dec 2011 #3

I'm still not buying that. It seems really fishy to me. nt limpyhobbler Dec 2011 #11

If this idiot managed to siphon off enough votes, combined with vote theft, voter suppression, MADem Dec 2011 #48

Rocky Anderson is not an idiot. totodeinhere Dec 2011 #67

+1 at the very least. nt ooglymoogly Dec 2011 #92

+ 1,000,000,000... What You Said !!! WillyT Dec 2011 #114

Will his old boss Mitt give him the "Token Dem" slot in the Cabinet, I wonder? nt MADem Dec 2011 #143

Tell him to run for Congress or Senate or State legislator Maraya1969 Dec 2011 #182

You really don't have any idea who Rocky Anderson is or his politican standing is Javaman Dec 2011 #87

In my personal view, he's not the brightest bulb if he is running a third party MADem Dec 2011 #106

Speaking of dim bulbs...nwat ooglymoogly Dec 2011 #110

Do elucidate--don't be vague, now. NT MADem Dec 2011 #141

I'm sure he realizes the long odds. But he is used to defying the odds. totodeinhere Dec 2011 #121

so in other words, you know nothing about him. Javaman Dec 2011 #134

And so, instead of assisting in my understanding, you instead choose to snark. MADem Dec 2011 #142

So instead of doing it yourself you get mad at me. LOL Javaman Dec 2011 #164

You're the one who's telling me I need a lesson, yet not giving it. MADem Dec 2011 #165

And now you resort to the Peewee Herman defense! Javaman Dec 2011 #166

Naaah. You may think you're being cute, but you're not. MADem Dec 2011 #167

I have never in my entire life seen someone turn a mole hill into a mountain. Javaman Dec 2011 #170

Javaman, you have one of those nice days, OK? MADem Dec 2011 #171

you just can't let it go... Javaman Dec 2011 #173

Ciao, Javaman! MADem Dec 2011 #176

Interesting. There will be a well funded 3rd party candidate to run to Obama's left. Old and In the Way Dec 2011 #4

On what basis do you see this campaign as "well funded"? brooklynite Dec 2011 #34

Not saying it is...just saying there will be one . Old and In the Way Dec 2011 #35

he might even get kkkarl rove money. try to spilt dem vote leftyohiolib Dec 2011 #91

Citizen's United aka "Corporations are People, too!" Old and In the Way Dec 2011 #94

I am quite sure the Koch brothers will pony up some donations for the "progressive" candidate! whistler162 Dec 2011 #180

It would be interesting to see if any of the money Anderson raises is from Romney donors karynnj Dec 2011 #46

- a bunch...nt ooglymoogly Dec 2011 #66

Why? ProSense Dec 2011 #2

I opposed anyone running a primary campaign against Obama. Did you conveniently forget that? Better Believe It Dec 2011 #6

How ProSense Dec 2011 #13

November 8, 2011 Better Believe It: "I actually don't favor a primary campaign" against Obama. Better Believe It Dec 2011 #20

I'm sure an apology will be forth-coming! sabrina 1 Dec 2011 #120

So conveniently bookmarked. Bobbie Jo Dec 2011 #181

Confucius say, the mutterings ooglymoogly Dec 2011 #69

the feature is available now magical thyme Dec 2011 #62

Being able to see the edit history is badass isn't it BBI snooper2 Dec 2011 #82

Any vote that does not help defeat the conservatives is a mistake Motown_Johnny Dec 2011 #5

Great. No voter contact plan with national scope eridani Dec 2011 #7

Couldn't agree more. Old and In the Way Dec 2011 #19

You honestly don't think if a third party candidate beat an incumbent President that nothing would A Simple Game Dec 2011 #123

Yes, nothing would change. Old and In the Way Dec 2011 #135

I will still maintain that if Anderson could beat President Obama A Simple Game Dec 2011 #149

As I said, you can believe anything you want. Old and In the Way Dec 2011 #152

I guess we will have to agree to disagree. A Simple Game Dec 2011 #179

The notion that a 3rd party candidate could beat an incumbent without -- eridani Dec 2011 #146

Just five words for you. A Simple Game Dec 2011 #147

If you don't want to win, why run? eridani Dec 2011 #148

I'm sure he does want to win. A Simple Game Dec 2011 #150

You don't think OWS would get behind his candidacy? NorthCarolina Dec 2011 #83

I'm thinking that they are totally blowing off electoral politics for the time being n/t eridani Dec 2011 #86

Is he a Democrat? Is so, why isn't running a primary challenge? Luminous Animal Dec 2011 #8

He answers your question in the articles. Read them. Better Believe It Dec 2011 #9

Is he a Democrat? Luminous Animal Dec 2011 #16

He is a former Democrat but has now joined the newly formed Justice Party Bjorn Against Dec 2011 #18

How mnay states has the Justice Party attained the qualifications to Luminous Animal Dec 2011 #26

I am not sure, they just announced the formation of the party last week so they may not be on any. Bjorn Against Dec 2011 #29

They won't be able to get on CA's ballot. joshcryer Dec 2011 #38

The California Peace and Freedom Party could vote to put Anderson as their candidate on the ballot. Better Believe It Dec 2011 #90

Perhaps not. ChadwickHenryWard Dec 2011 #64

Darcy Richardson is running a primary campaign. mmonk Dec 2011 #15

Nope...tiny odds on the Rock....unknown and tiny $$ ain't shit in this Realm of the Oval... opihimoimoi Dec 2011 #10

He's a shoe-in. Scurrilous Dec 2011 #12

He's eschewin' reality. great white snark Dec 2011 #43

Cool! I'll remember the name ... T S Justly Dec 2011 #14

Seems like a good choice for 2016 if he re-registers as a democrat. nt bluestate10 Dec 2011 #17

Why the Anderson campaign for President will not be like Nader's campaign in 2000. Better Believe It Dec 2011 #21

Ever wonder why they only poll Congress as if it were a monolythic body? Old and In the Way Dec 2011 #22

Actually, that is only one way they poll Congress. aquart Dec 2011 #27

True, but it's the only polling that seems to get discussed in the mainstream media. Old and In the Way Dec 2011 #28

That's hilarious ProSense Dec 2011 #23

Hilarious? NorthCarolina Dec 2011 #84

I resided in Utah when Rocky was mayor newspeak Dec 2011 #57

A mormon running against a mormon for president? alittlelark Dec 2011 #24

I wouldn't call Rocky Anderson a Mormon FreeState Dec 2011 #37

I was wondering... CanSocDem Dec 2011 #168

Here's an idea ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2011 #25

That's too much work. Independent progressives want a political messiah to fix everything. Old and In the Way Dec 2011 #31

So you think Rocky Anderson would be "a weaker version" of the Great Compromiser President Obama? Better Believe It Dec 2011 #41

Silly question. Follow the Messiah - he'll lead you to the Promised Land! Old and In the Way Dec 2011 #96

We tried Obama. How has that worked out for ya? Better Believe It Dec 2011 #100

Silly question. Follow the Messiah - he'll lead you to the Promised Land! Old and In the Way Dec 2011 #104

Stealing phrases from Sarah Palin doesn't help your case, also too. Bobbie Jo Dec 2011 #124

"Stealing phrases from Sarah Palin doesn't help your case, also too." Tarheel_Dem Dec 2011 #161

+1 for this^ Ineeda Dec 2011 #109

Besides the Democrats and GOPers there are FOURTEEN other folks running Tx4obama Dec 2011 #30

I think running for POTUS might be the new financial con. Old and In the Way Dec 2011 #32

Correct, I hope DU doesn't get caught up in Anderson hysteria... joshcryer Dec 2011 #39

Personally, I'm pretty concerned about klook Dec 2011 #79

Ron Paul has a better chance of being elected President than this guy Hugabear Dec 2011 #33

The last Anderson who ran as a progressive third party candidate helped get us Reagan RFKHumphreyObama Dec 2011 #36

I will never forget it Irishonly Dec 2011 #55

Is this a suicide by cop thread? UnrepentantLiberal Dec 2011 #40

He's got as many ex-wives as Newt Gingrich Freddie Stubbs Dec 2011 #42

Do you have any evidence he "cheated" on his two ex-wives? Links please. Better Believe It Dec 2011 #49

actually his marriages probably ended in divorce newspeak Dec 2011 #58

He couldn't handle marriage and he couldn't handle working to change the Democratic party Freddie Stubbs Dec 2011 #63

Keep ProSense Dec 2011 #44

I wish I could rec this. I think Clinton's re-elect numbers were about 20 pts. lower. (nt) Tarheel_Dem Dec 2011 #162

unrecc spanone Dec 2011 #45

Sounds like a great guy! He should run for Senate agentS Dec 2011 #47

Yeah! vote for Rocky and let a republican win WI_DEM Dec 2011 #50

Mr. Anderson, Ralph Nader on line 2...nt SidDithers Dec 2011 #51

he worked with Romney in the 2002 Winter Olympics bigtree Dec 2011 #52

of course he worked with romney newspeak Dec 2011 #60

What would a REAL Democrat have said? dems_rightnow Dec 2011 #145

I had dealings with this guy when he was Mayor of Salt Lake CanonRay Dec 2011 #53

I had a feeling that was what it was. BlueToTheBone Dec 2011 #56

Excellent Republican strategy JustABozoOnThisBus Dec 2011 #54

Some front group funded by the Kochs and/or Rove's anonymous donors emulatorloo Dec 2011 #136

Good. Having choices is what democracy is about. Tierra_y_Libertad Dec 2011 #59

Actually, making choices collectively is what Democracy is all about. MjolnirTime Dec 2011 #71

Which means that more choices are a plus. Tierra_y_Libertad Dec 2011 #81

DU is about electing Democrats. nt sufrommich Dec 2011 #131

I'm beginning to think that there are a lot of EC Dec 2011 #61

Justice Party ecoalex2 Dec 2011 #65

Because there's not a dime's worth of difference between George Bush and Al Gore... greenman3610 Dec 2011 #68

+1 uponit7771 Dec 2011 #76

He's running with the "Throw your vote right in the Trashcan" Party. MjolnirTime Dec 2011 #70

Post removed Post removed Dec 2011 #72

Fuck Hr 676. Fuck EFCA 2.0 but some will get their self-righteous buzz on anyway & lie down with patrice Dec 2011 #73

And if you think I can't back that up with empirical support, you're wrong. patrice Dec 2011 #74

I have followed Rocky for a long time. ooglymoogly Dec 2011 #89

I thought you weren't coming to the new DU? ecstatic Dec 2011 #75

OP found out as long as he posts anti-material with a disclaimer at the bottom, he is within Ikonoklast Dec 2011 #77

You're now on ignore for personal attacks. Better Believe It Dec 2011 #85

Oh my stars and garters! Whatever shall I do? I...I feel faint! Ikonoklast Dec 2011 #99

merciful heavens! dionysus Dec 2011 #139

Pretty slick, huh? AtomicKitten Dec 2011 #88

(cough) Everything's getting so cold...(cough) so dark, so cold...(gasp).... Ikonoklast Dec 2011 #101

are you sure you'll be okay? you seem broken up about it.... dionysus Dec 2011 #140

+1...nt SidDithers Dec 2011 #97

How convenient for the repugs siligut Dec 2011 #78

I'll vote for a Third Party candidate ... Martin Eden Dec 2011 #80

Not this silliness again. Obama approval was at 84% among Dems last week and it's going up. OregonBlue Dec 2011 #93

People who think a vote splitting third choice is a good idea should bet the rent money on it. JohnnyRingo Dec 2011 #95

Amen. But there is no maximum contribution. The Kochs could bankroll this guy 100%--- McCamy Taylor Dec 2011 #98

Republicans and Wall Street could also give millions to Obama. They gave a lot to Kerry and Obama Better Believe It Dec 2011 #102

Anderson won't accept the maximum donation amount. Not even close. jtrockville Dec 2011 #108

Wait. You donated to someone running against... SidDithers Dec 2011 #126

I heard about that $100 maximum, now that you mention it. JohnnyRingo Dec 2011 #138

My input is that someone who makes repeated anti Obama posts and then puts grantcart Dec 2011 #103

I think that is a version of concern trolling. nt stevenleser Dec 2011 #105

Is your comment directed at me or someone else? Better Believe It Dec 2011 #111

It's my charachterization of the repeated anti Obama posts that you make and then add some grantcart Dec 2011 #117

Your misrepresentation of my views may fit your Obama talking points nicely but I tell the truth. Better Believe It Dec 2011 #133

It's called a paraphrase Bobbie Jo Dec 2011 #118

He should win because he puts his fist in the air frazzled Dec 2011 #107

I of course prefer someone who seems to be delivering a lecture to the uneducated masses. Better Believe It Dec 2011 #113

"I don't support Anderson's presidential campaign" ... dionysus Dec 2011 #112

Really, eh?... SidDithers Dec 2011 #127

why Sid, we should start a kickboxin' club. dionysus Dec 2011 #132

Very interesting idea. Turbineguy Dec 2011 #115

Fuck Rocky Anderson and Fuck the Justice Party WonderGrunion Dec 2011 #116

Oh great. Siphon off enough votes from Obama to a guy who seriously has no realistic chance against calimary Dec 2011 #119

REC. Excellent topic of discussion. nt bertman Dec 2011 #122

excellent indeed, especially if you want a GOP president, bert. or one embarrased rocky. dionysus Dec 2011 #129

He left office before I moved to Salt Lake LadyHawkAZ Dec 2011 #125

Why is this 3rd party shit allowed on DU3? sufrommich Dec 2011 #128

yeah, and strangely this type of bullshit is allowed to stand. dionysus Dec 2011 #130

Some posters seem to be bullet proof emulatorloo Dec 2011 #137

Ding! Ding! Ding! Tarheel_Dem Dec 2011 #163

We'll see if ToS volations are enforced come nomination time. joshcryer Dec 2011 #144

My prediction RZM Dec 2011 #151

I really don't see it, to be honest. joshcryer Dec 2011 #154

There's going to have to be a do or die moment in 2012 RZM Dec 2011 #155

Definitely going to be interesting. joshcryer Dec 2011 #156

You're right, assuming a constant 5 point lead RZM Dec 2011 #157

Isn't that a statement of principle within the ToS? That we're here to get Dems elected? MADem Dec 2011 #159

Disingenuous weasel-worded disclaimers REP Dec 2011 #153

Please share when you have further info. Dewey Finn Dec 2011 #158

You SO obviously don't realize - Summer Hathaway Dec 2011 #160

You've been here for a week, and you act like you've known BBI for years. MADem Dec 2011 #169

Long time lurker - Summer Hathaway Dec 2011 #174

He has his own issues, and they're coming to the fore. MADem Dec 2011 #175

In response to your request for more information here's a link to his interview with Cenk Uygur Better Believe It Dec 2011 #172

That's more than sufficient. Dewey Finn Dec 2011 #178

Personally, I would like to see a third party that would challenge the rightward drift paulk Dec 2011 #177