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nadinbrzezinski

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47. So I will ask you quite plainly
Tue Apr 7, 2015, 08:21 PM
Apr 2015

why are you against something that would make it EASIER, not harder to do?

Things like Oregon's Motor Voter bill will register people automatically, with a 15 day opt out option. Oregon also does this by mail in ballot, EXCLUSIVELY, and have a higher voting average than any other jurisdiction in the U.S. Are you telling me that people in Oregon take it less seriously than you do because they can sit at home at night, fill in their ballot and put it in the mail? Incidentally, that also helps the USPS.

California is joining Oregon with the introduction of Assembly Bill 1461 as far as the motor voter bill part of it, I will not bother giving you links to my coverage, but the objective of this... assuming it survives committees and general voting in the Assembly, it will increase the number of voters in the state by 7 million. If they had the chance to send this ballot in though the mail, and they got it automatically, WHY THE HELL NOT? This is what modernizing elections and opening the ballot looks like.

I am also going to assume, sorry for that, that while you stated you are a single mother, you are still middle class. There are some attitudes that are just obvious, and this is one of them.

For the record, the OP was wrong. Voting was actually HIGHER than expected, per the LA Times On the other hand, the Daily Beast reports low turnout. So what is it? I am betting these two contradicting realities cannot be true at the same time.

The LA Times is an MSM paper with nothing at stake here. The Daily Beast can be a tad to the RW of things, and the games people play to suppress the vote are quite sophisticated.

But back to the question, why are you against making it easier? Just becuase you like to walk to the polls, so do we by the way, does not mean this is the best way to vote. There are improvements, and it seems to me some folks are dead set against those.

Edit to add this from the Christian Science Monitor regarding Oregon

Oregon is one of two states that employ a vote-by-mail only system. Voters receive an information pamphlet three weeks before the election, followed a few days later by their ballots. With an average voter turnout of 60.13 – 8.5 percentage points above the national average – the system is working for Oregonians.


Final edit, for clarity

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Here's a link JustAnotherGen Apr 2015 #1
Fixed - not sure why it wasn't showing brooklynite Apr 2015 #2
I hope so. But I also hope that someone has taken all the obstructions to voting away. Can you jwirr Apr 2015 #3
23 people. tazkcmo Apr 2015 #4
This is the turnout for voting in Ferguson MO? My god what were they marching for? Sorry if that jwirr Apr 2015 #5
I gotta agree. cwydro Apr 2015 #7
Sad - they didn't learn anything 840high Apr 2015 #28
What the fuck are you talking about? RandiFan1290 Apr 2015 #80
I know the Secretary of State...Jason Kander brooklynite Apr 2015 #10
The article didn't mention WHY people in those poor areas are afraid to vote. sabrina 1 Apr 2015 #6
That would be a reason not to vote. And I agree - we need international observers and maybe one jwirr Apr 2015 #8
Bingo! bravenak Apr 2015 #9
There had to be federal intervention in Philly to stop that shit. nt msanthrope Apr 2015 #11
That's fucked up. They love stopping people from voting. bravenak Apr 2015 #16
And by "think", you mean "have no evidence whatsoever"? brooklynite Apr 2015 #13
Wow. What does that even mean, yo? bravenak Apr 2015 #15
I believe in facts and evidence... brooklynite Apr 2015 #19
Funny. I got a result immediately. bravenak Apr 2015 #21
Show me where it says the police hang out at the polls to nab people with outstanding warrants brooklynite Apr 2015 #22
You want me to prove the police harass black folks at polls? bravenak Apr 2015 #23
Then it should be easy to prove... brooklynite Apr 2015 #24
This sounds stupid as hell. bravenak Apr 2015 #25
Have you been following the Ferguson story AT ALL? On this forum where so much ha sabrina 1 Apr 2015 #62
It may be a "classic tactic", but I've yet to see evidence that voter suppression happened in Ferguson brooklynite Apr 2015 #63
Yes, let's talk about that Missouri Democratic Administration. Starting with the Governor. sabrina 1 Apr 2015 #65
The "military" did not "brutally crack down on AAs" pintobean Apr 2015 #67
I found one too but took me a little awhile JonLP24 Apr 2015 #70
Thank you, that one is even better. bravenak Apr 2015 #76
There is plenty of evidence. Have you read the DOJ findings on the 'justice system' in Ferguson? sabrina 1 Apr 2015 #17
Evidence? JonLP24 Apr 2015 #66
They do. And nearly every family in those areas are afraid to go vote, even if they want to, sabrina 1 Apr 2015 #14
There should never be arrests at polling places unless a crime is in progress. bravenak Apr 2015 #18
Surprise! Voter turnout grew from 12% to 29% brooklynite Apr 2015 #56
Turn-out was 14% county wide pintobean Apr 2015 #58
Too late for that. Voting is half over. yeoman6987 Apr 2015 #20
An earlier article said city races are held separate from any other elections csziggy Apr 2015 #53
Thank you, I remember reading that also. They had a nice little system going that seemed sabrina 1 Apr 2015 #59
There were elections held all over yesterday pintobean Apr 2015 #60
Here, go argue with these specialists on how off year local elections have a lower turnout nadinbrzezinski Apr 2015 #61
Protests work, there is new Civil Rights movement going on. Maybe you haven't paid much attention sabrina 1 Apr 2015 #64
Non of that addressed my question. pintobean Apr 2015 #68
Where exactly were elections held yesterday? csziggy Apr 2015 #71
Yes, St. Louis County, St. Louis City, other areas of MO. pintobean Apr 2015 #72
Just the statement that "elections were held all over" doesn't give much to Google csziggy Apr 2015 #73
"Election results" in Google news pintobean Apr 2015 #75
Got some figures and it's not good anywhere csziggy Apr 2015 #79
Oh I think there will be quite a bit of voting.... Bluenorthwest Apr 2015 #12
Turn-out is very light so far pintobean Apr 2015 #26
Why I favor mail-in ballots and multi-day voting. . . Journeyman Apr 2015 #27
Rain, snow, sleet - I have 840high Apr 2015 #29
Ever had a sick child, or explosive diarrhea on voting day? . . . Journeyman Apr 2015 #30
Polls are open 12+ hours... brooklynite Apr 2015 #31
Or working two to three jobs nadinbrzezinski Apr 2015 #32
Missouri law requires employers to allow time off for voting pintobean Apr 2015 #33
They do nadinbrzezinski Apr 2015 #35
Here pintobean Apr 2015 #36
Yes, but it is the enforcement that is lacking nadinbrzezinski Apr 2015 #38
Like I said, if they really want to vote pintobean Apr 2015 #39
And you missed the structural issues nadinbrzezinski Apr 2015 #40
I haven't missed shit. pintobean Apr 2015 #41
Have an excellent day nadinbrzezinski Apr 2015 #42
Will do. pintobean Apr 2015 #43
Thank you. I always 840high Apr 2015 #45
So I will ask you quite plainly nadinbrzezinski Apr 2015 #47
I think you are confused - I'm most 840high Apr 2015 #49
I am going by what you posted nadinbrzezinski Apr 2015 #50
6:45 and 7:21 are not "almost posted at the same time" pintobean Apr 2015 #51
I do, but whatever nadinbrzezinski Apr 2015 #52
This is what I posted. Take it any way you want. 840high Apr 2015 #54
As I told you, I am happy that nadinbrzezinski Apr 2015 #55
Thank you nadine, awesome post. bravenak Apr 2015 #78
As a matter of fact - yes. I am 840high Apr 2015 #44
Great. My comment still holds true . . . Journeyman Apr 2015 #46
I have no idea where 840high Apr 2015 #48
The jurisdiction uses an at-large voting system JonLP24 Apr 2015 #69
Update: voter turnout is "Good" brooklynite Apr 2015 #34
i hope so Liberal_in_LA Apr 2015 #37
Alas they did nadinbrzezinski Apr 2015 #57
That's more than voted in the Chicago election for mayor! Rex Apr 2015 #74
What really bugged me was nadinbrzezinski Apr 2015 #77
All the bigots STFU real quick RandiFan1290 Apr 2015 #81
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