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8. You apparently can't see it.

Wed Apr 8, 2015, 05:21 AM

Apr 2015

The very reason they are holding the contest has not one, but two cartoons it can enter...

...plus the one in the other post.

What you are missing is the reason and rationale behind the "contest." It is supposed to be a demonstration of the hypocrisy of the West. Yet, the VERY SAME MAGAZINE has pictures qualified for it's contest. The West certainly is blind to many things, but so are those who defend shit like this or claim it has some equivalency. Too many try to place their culture over another...that is your claim, yet that could easily be claimed by those who murdered in the name of their religion being insulted. Sacred cows are on BOTH sides.

ETA: One can mock Islam and the Holocaust in France, a Western nation. Guess which one can't happen in Iran? Seems it isn't the West who is also blind to "sensitivities."

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An exhibition in Iran will mock the Holocaust [View all] Behind the Aegis Apr 2015 OP

"Brilliant" move and "brilliant" timing. merrily Apr 2015 #1

Sadly, the exhibition proves its point, but in a way the West will never admit. jobycom Apr 2015 #2

Sadly, you are incorrect. Behind the Aegis Apr 2015 #3

You've just demonstrated what I said, of course. jobycom Apr 2015 #4

No, you demonstrated it. Behind the Aegis Apr 2015 #5

Oh good grief. Are you really unable to see it? jobycom Apr 2015 #7

You apparently can't see it. Behind the Aegis Apr 2015 #8

France JonLP24 Apr 2015 #39

you didn't spend enough time in history departments cali Apr 2015 #11

Almost 50,000 posts here before they let that one slip out. geek tragedy Apr 2015 #19

funny how that poster has fled the thread. cali Apr 2015 #20

Search function produces good stuff geek tragedy Apr 2015 #22

Could you explain your reaction to that post, and why you posted it? jobycom Apr 2015 #87

it is very sensible and very much at odds with the sentiments you expressed in this thread. geek tragedy Apr 2015 #88

Thanks. But that didn't make you reassess what you thought I said in this thread? jobycom Apr 2015 #90

no. you peddled David Irving-lite garbage in this thread. geek tragedy Apr 2015 #96

I did no such thing. You've now given his argument more air time than I ever would have. jobycom Apr 2015 #108

You again confuse "proven beyond any conceivable doubt" and "sacred" geek tragedy Apr 2015 #109

Or maybe he went to bed and then to work. jobycom Apr 2015 #85

Please, stop. Major Hogwash Apr 2015 #116

"That's supremacy. And that--not the silly cartoons--is what was behind the Hebdo massacre." oberliner Apr 2015 #13

If by amazing you mean despicable, I agree. cali Apr 2015 #14

Amazing was probably not the best word to use oberliner Apr 2015 #17

Holocaust denial is not an opinion. It is willful lying in order to make geek tragedy Apr 2015 #16

Yes or no: do you think Holocaust denial has any factual basis? nt geek tragedy Apr 2015 #18

Did you not read any of what I wrote? jobycom Apr 2015 #93

"prevailing story?" You didn't answer the question. Is there any factual basis geek tragedy Apr 2015 #95

AUTOMATED MESSAGE: Results of your Jury Service Capt. Obvious Apr 2015 #48

Apology for terrorism - You are saying that the massacre was justified in your last sentence Pooka Fey Apr 2015 #57

So are you saying that the Hebdo massacre would have been justified if my last sentence is true? jobycom Apr 2015 #92

Dude I would have alerted on YOUR post if I thought it would have made a difference Pooka Fey Apr 2015 #94

In the UK and USA it would be legal to deny the Holocaust. That doesn't mean that it is, or should LeftishBrit Apr 2015 #72

No doubt, you'll supply us with objective evidence which supports that allegation. LanternWaste Apr 2015 #80

Then you are blind or can't think for yourself. NCTraveler Apr 2015 #99

Nonsense leftynyc Apr 2015 #117

Edit- found this on NBC KittyWampus Apr 2015 #36

huge fail cali Apr 2015 #10

Do you understand the 1st Amendment to the United States Constitution? Warren DeMontague Apr 2015 #115

I think it will prove the opposite. NutmegYankee Apr 2015 #6

Actually it proves the opposite oberliner Apr 2015 #9

You just called yourself a white/western supremacist. geek tragedy Apr 2015 #15

An interesting argument, even if refuted by the points you highlight guillaumeb Apr 2015 #59

If something is objective fact, then there is no debate to be had in terms of respecting people geek tragedy Apr 2015 #89

I predict ABSOLUTELY ZERO people will be killed or have death decrees made against them. nt Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2015 #33

"...that all of our claims that Muslims should not get upset about cartoons..." Jenoch Apr 2015 #58

I have read your posts here, and the reactions to them. guillaumeb Apr 2015 #66

Thanks. I know this place, I knew what to expect. jobycom Apr 2015 #83

Referring to rejecting the David Irving crowd as driven by "politics" and referring geek tragedy Apr 2015 #91

If I had done so, then maybe you'd have a point. jobycom Apr 2015 #100

The Holocaust is not a 'sacred' issue--it is an indisputable fact established by geek tragedy Apr 2015 #104

I assure you no one will 840high Apr 2015 #84

Did you read the part where I never said they would? jobycom Apr 2015 #86

I'll go out on a limb and predict that these cartoons will not lead to bloody riots, Nye Bevan Apr 2015 #12

Certainly, because the target of the exhibited works is not "The West" Bad Thoughts Apr 2015 #21

How many people died because of Piss Christ? nt geek tragedy Apr 2015 #23

None. Piss Christ at least broadly reflects Western values. eom. Bad Thoughts Apr 2015 #27

care to explain that rather odd declaration? please expound cali Apr 2015 #28

Sure Bad Thoughts Apr 2015 #50

You seem to erroneously believe that only Jews are offended by it. You are entirely mistaken. cali Apr 2015 #53

No, I am saying that the target is Jews, not the West Bad Thoughts Apr 2015 #54

Cartoonists who mock Christianity, and artists who dunk crucifixes in piss, Nye Bevan Apr 2015 #24

I would agree Bad Thoughts Apr 2015 #26

and the Charlie Hebdo cartoons? Just what do you think they were? cali Apr 2015 #29

A satirical portrayal of Islam and (some) adherrants Bad Thoughts Apr 2015 #32

I can imagine an angry mob looting a Whole Foods in Boca Raton Freddie Stubbs Apr 2015 #25

I chortled. Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2015 #35

What do you make of this? JonLP24 Apr 2015 #42

I think it's a crying shame. But maybe they were just duped into those attacks. cali Apr 2015 #43

They are a quite clearly a destructive cult JonLP24 Apr 2015 #44

your op is so murky it's hard to discern what you're trying to say. cali Apr 2015 #45

So a group like Al-Qaeda isn't a cult? JonLP24 Apr 2015 #47

I wouldn't characterize them as such. cali Apr 2015 #49

Fundamentalist preachers are convincing young adults that it is their religious duty JonLP24 Apr 2015 #51

+1 Pooka Fey Apr 2015 #52

Satirizing the prophet M*hammed is not the same thing as LeftinOH Apr 2015 #30

Political Cartoons. The Article Has A Photo From Last Year. KittyWampus Apr 2015 #31

seeing how nutty yahoo has been talking....no olive branches from isreal that is for sure dembotoz Apr 2015 #34

There it is! Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2015 #37

huh? what has that to do with the op? cali Apr 2015 #38

So because Bibi is a douche that permits folks to deny the Holocaust? DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2015 #56

Can you believe that shit?... SidDithers Apr 2015 #60

Why yes. Yes I can. cali Apr 2015 #61

Tit for tat or something like that... DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2015 #64

This is a separate issue LeftishBrit Apr 2015 #70

So. Fucking. Predictable. nt Codeine Apr 2015 #105

Like the cleaning of a house.... Behind the Aegis Apr 2015 #112

They are making their point goldent Apr 2015 #40

their "point" is hypocritical shit. cali Apr 2015 #41

no, it's pretty much straight up Holocaust denial geek tragedy Apr 2015 #97

I am constantly saddened by human depravity. NaturalHigh Apr 2015 #46

Political cartoons are not meant to be amusing. IMO and all that. djean111 Apr 2015 #55

These aren't necessarily political cartoons. NaturalHigh Apr 2015 #68

I don't think it's specifically children doing the artwork. arcane1 Apr 2015 #78

Fucking gross. Starry Messenger Apr 2015 #62

the limits of acceptable free speech? guillaumeb Apr 2015 #63

You appear unable to distinguish outrage from riots and murder. cali Apr 2015 #65

I have seen "Piss Christ" guillaumeb Apr 2015 #67

Oh for pity's sake. cali Apr 2015 #69

and as to England and Ireland? guillaumeb Apr 2015 #71

No-one Murdered Because of this Image (NSFW warning) Nye Bevan Apr 2015 #73

I am outraged guillaumeb Apr 2015 #74

Yes, and he thinks its SUPER-DE-DUPER! Nye Bevan Apr 2015 #75

Barney is a liberal guillaumeb Apr 2015 #76

Never knew this was a part of liberalism, at all. NCTraveler Apr 2015 #102

Christianity gets brutally mocked all the time Codeine Apr 2015 #107

If the idea is a comment on Charlie Hebdo BainsBane Apr 2015 #77

Cartoons get the red out Apr 2015 #79

The only appropriate response... zappaman Apr 2015 #81

Too bad we can't trade our US conservatives for Iranian liberals, women, and LGBT. Zorra Apr 2015 #82

someone should enter a cartoon of Mohammed saying "denying the Holocaust is evil" nt geek tragedy Apr 2015 #98

But wouldn't that be "Western" arrogance? Behind the Aegis Apr 2015 #111

Um, they have a museum park in Kentucky depicting Noah's Ark!!! Major Hogwash Apr 2015 #101

Noah's Ark. NCTraveler Apr 2015 #103

The USSR Threatened US With Nuclear Destruction For Decades! Brett Fitz Apr 2015 #106

What?! Behind the Aegis Apr 2015 #113

Here are the winners from the last contest goldent Apr 2015 #110

Thanks, this add a little nuance to the topic. U4ikLefty Apr 2015 #114