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In reply to the discussion: 4 reasons I'm thankful for Ed Snowden [View all]Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)39. Start here:
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http://cjlab.memri.org/analysis-and-special-reports/al-qaedas-embrace-of-encryption-technology-part-iii-july-2014-january-2015-islamic-state-isis-and-other-jihadis-continue-to-develop-their-cyber-and-encryption-capabilities-post-snowden/and here:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/islamic-state/11506846/The-blog-that-proves-Islamic-State-jihadists-were-listening-to-Edward-Snowden.html
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And yet, a majority of Americans polled believe that Snowden is a Whistle Blower NOT a
sabrina 1
Apr 2015
#35
"And yet..."? The majority of Americans don't know who he is! Who is spinning?
TerrapinFlyer
Apr 2015
#37
That interview was PRICELESS. Brilliant and Snowden was excellent, couldn't have been better if
sabrina 1
Apr 2015
#36
Oliver's entire point was that we have not made an informed judgement on the subject,
Marr
Apr 2015
#25
It's not just me who doesn't care what the NSA does with foreign communications.
randome
Apr 2015
#28
And you are upset because he gave an interview to a comedian on HBO and you were forced
djean111
Apr 2015
#29
Which, being such a small sample size, may be an obstacle towards objectivity.
LanternWaste
Apr 2015
#56
Democracy is a form of government and no one stopped you from saying you don't care.
merrily
Apr 2015
#53
What you are basically saying is that most USians don't know and don't care. That really has nothing
merrily
Apr 2015
#58
Sure it does. We are in control of who our representatives are and what they do in our name.
randome
Apr 2015
#63
How does not knowing or caring who Snowden is mesh with controlling our representatives?
merrily
Apr 2015
#68
Yeah, well, that's more of a concept than reality, admittedly. (But I'm still sweet.)
randome
Apr 2015
#74
IOW, being ignorant about Snowden and the 4th Am. really has nothing to do with democracy or
merrily
Apr 2015
#94
You're perfectly fine to tell the government that you don't care if they violate your
Erich Bloodaxe BSN
Apr 2015
#136
5. He showed the lengths "our" government will go to stifle dissent and whistleblowers.
Tierra_y_Libertad
Apr 2015
#11
It's not the responsibiity of anyone but you to do research to prove a claim you made.
merrily
Apr 2015
#96
"Islamic extremists are locked in a digital arms race with our intelligence services"
ronnie624
Apr 2015
#100
Thanks for retracting the false claim regarding who Snowden gave the documents to.
sabrina 1
Apr 2015
#40
The US Government FORCED Snowden to be trapped in Russia. And give me some credible
sabrina 1
Apr 2015
#92
Snowden Laid To Rest - Once And For All Time - That Our Government Cannot Be Trusted - Ever
cantbeserious
Apr 2015
#18
It's a small consolation in lieu of having leaders who are honest and honorable, who have the
GoneFishin
Apr 2015
#21
He does make the authoritarians foam at the mouth. Which is both sad and entertaining.
Rex
Apr 2015
#26
You do realize that a lie under oath isn't necessarily perjury, right? Which is why
msanthrope
Apr 2015
#65
I wouldn't trust either one with a wooden nickle. I know mis has no love for Snowden.
Rex
Apr 2015
#75
I don't support Clapper. I'm just telling you what the law is. If you think Wyden was pressured by
msanthrope
Apr 2015
#99
Indeed--one wonders why Congress didn't pursue the remedy they have at hand if they thought
msanthrope
Apr 2015
#102
It would not have been usurpation. They both had the ability. And Clapper is Obama's employee.
merrily
Apr 2015
#109
The DOJ cannot act in this matter without a referral. Also, the Congress declined to
msanthrope
Apr 2015
#114
You can't really say "no comment" when you are testifying. I think Clapper handled
msanthrope
Apr 2015
#69
Well sadly I resigned to the fact that all of that is over the heads of our upper level managers.
Rex
Apr 2015
#80
What, precisely, is wrong? No.....you cannot say "No Comment" when testifying.
msanthrope
Apr 2015
#77
No--I don't support lying under oath. Not in any form. But it happens, and when it does, I
msanthrope
Apr 2015
#97
Or maybe Wyden understood he asked a question to which Americans deserved an answer.
merrily
Apr 2015
#104
The process of prosecuting Clapper, right? I assume you would want him prosecuted, right? Now,
msanthrope
Apr 2015
#121
I understand the processes of DEALING with Clapper, if anyone wanted to deal with him.
merrily
Apr 2015
#125
Now, you're twisting words. You can read and your profession includes dealing precisely with words,
merrily
Apr 2015
#128
I did want a discussion. Apparently, that's not on the table, as usual. See you another time.
merrily
Apr 2015
#130
I am trying to have an honest discussion with you, but that's impossible if you refuse
msanthrope
Apr 2015
#132
Not true, but, again, this is way too boring and pointless for us to continue.
merrily
Apr 2015
#133
You started this discussion with me, merrily...and not for anything, but leaving the
msanthrope
Apr 2015
#134
What is clearly true is that Clapper's lies were acceptable (or close to) to anyone
merrily
Apr 2015
#137
Those who would question Obaman's moral charatcer on this issue are ignorant of civics, or, even
msanthrope
Apr 2015
#98
Actually, yes. It's called keeping the branches of gov't seperate. Congress declined to
msanthrope
Apr 2015
#112
Yes--and if Congress declines to investigate, what, precisely, is the Executive supposed to
msanthrope
Apr 2015
#119
What he is supposed to do is a different issue from what he can do. Separation of powers does NOT
merrily
Apr 2015
#120
Well--upthread you don't seem to be able to answer what you want Clapper prosecuted for. How about
msanthrope
Apr 2015
#122