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nobodyspecial

(2,286 posts) Sat May 5, 2012, 07:59 AM May 2012

Let's tie Obama's hands behind his back, then bludgeon him on "weak" job numbers [View all]

That's the game Congress played. They didn't care about getting people back to work. Their stated goal was to make Obama a one-termer. If a proposal would help the economy or average person, it went nowhere. It's amazing the economy has recovered as well as it has considering Europe's austerity measures are leading them back into a second recession. Wonder why nobody in the media is pointing that out?

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Let's tie Obama's hands behind his back, then bludgeon him on "weak" job numbers [View all] nobodyspecial May 2012 OP

Obama had large majorities in Congress for his first two years, MadHound May 2012 #1

Perhaps you need to read this: Tennessee Gal May 2012 #5

I didn't say that he had "progressive majorities", but rather Democratic ones MadHound May 2012 #8

Interesting ProSense May 2012 #9

Wow, you just make that faulty leap of logic, MadHound May 2012 #44

"that isn't the fault of Blue Dogs" ProSense May 2012 #47

Eh, that's not what defending means. n/t Dawgs May 2012 #78

It can't hurt where there are no nerves. Poll_Blind May 2012 #48

Large majorities?! Ever heard of Joe Lieberman? Ben Nelson? Filibusters? The GOP? FarLeftFist May 2012 #100

Ever hear of the bully pulpit? MadHound May 2012 #105

On what issue are you referring? This OP is about April's jobs report. FarLeftFist May 2012 #106

Oh geez, never mind. MadHound May 2012 #107

Because you derailed it. FarLeftFist May 2012 #109

From the link: Tennessee Gal May 2012 #13

We've been hearing those excuses . sendero May 2012 #60

Way to put your fellow Americans first. nobodyspecial May 2012 #148

The problem is, that when it was the Bailouts, which btw, were voted against in the first vote by sabrina 1 May 2012 #118

Obama actually worked very hard to get TARP passed. girl gone mad May 2012 #130

Yes, and that is why I never bought the excuses. They managed to get the HC Bill passed also. sabrina 1 May 2012 #143

Senate makeup in 2009 nobodyspecial May 2012 #6

And you keep pushing the fallacy that sixty votes is needed to get anything done MadHound May 2012 #11

Maybe you should ProSense May 2012 #14

Then explain to me how Obama is finally getting things accomplished now MadHound May 2012 #33

Yeah, he should have just called them dicks and rallied the people to storm the Capitol. nobodyspecial May 2012 #14

Facts like Obama's large mandate for change? MadHound May 2012 #20

He never had large Congressional majorities. That is a fact. Tennessee Gal May 2012 #23

Umm, yes he did MadHound May 2012 #26

The filibuster-proof majority is a necessity to accomplish anything .... Tennessee Gal May 2012 #34

Gee, he couldn't peel off a few of the moderates that were left? MadHound May 2012 #40

Sixty votes is required to get anything done. Tennessee Gal May 2012 #18

And yet miraculously, after two years of squandered opportunity, MadHound May 2012 #24

Okay, you dislike Obama. Keep up the bashing. Tennessee Gal May 2012 #31

Dislike, no, disappointed, very much so. MadHound May 2012 #39

Oh ProSense May 2012 #43

Remember when Bush couldn't do anything without MannyGoldstein May 2012 #38

It figures ProSense May 2012 #46

What about all the other stuff? MannyGoldstein May 2012 #51

Are ProSense May 2012 #57

I'm claiming that Bush was successful at passing legislation MannyGoldstein May 2012 #73

Well, ProSense May 2012 #83

He passed two ruinous wars, decimation of civil rights MannyGoldstein May 2012 #86

Here's what ProSense May 2012 #101

How would you weight these bills? MannyGoldstein May 2012 #119

Wow. And he was able to do all of that without a filibuster-proof majority! girl gone mad May 2012 #132

Barack Obama isn't LBJ. Arkana May 2012 #66

Ah, so LBJ wasn't a street fighter during his turn in the Oval Office? MadHound May 2012 #68

Great man, LBJ got us into the Viet Nam war and janx May 2012 #153

That is not a fallacy treestar May 2012 #79

Really? ProSense May 2012 #7

Why didn't Obama fight to get what he wanted? MadHound May 2012 #16

These are not the times of LBJ. Tennessee Gal May 2012 #21

They are the times of Regan though. bahrbearian May 2012 #25

No they are not. Tennessee Gal May 2012 #28

Most of the Congress Idolizes Reagan bahrbearian May 2012 #52

No, they're not, MadHound May 2012 #30

Extending the tax cuts was a major capitulation, like For Profit Health Care. bahrbearian May 2012 #56

Yeah ProSense May 2012 #59

So where is the Public Option? Its all for profit. bahrbearian May 2012 #61

Ask ProSense May 2012 #62

Like I said I can't get medicare . can you? bahrbearian May 2012 #64

I can't either, Bluerthanblue May 2012 #82

Well, there your go again... nobodyspecial May 2012 #149

Right on bahrbearian May 2012 #22

Why ProSense May 2012 #32

Not for the first two years of his term. MadHound May 2012 #42

Again ProSense May 2012 #50

Wow, you are getting to be a caricature of yourself MadHound May 2012 #53

Great rebuttal. I'm still laughing. n/t ProSense May 2012 #58

no, he spent the first two years Bluerthanblue May 2012 #102

your post is offensive Whisp May 2012 #155

Actually, he did--the only problem is that the guys holding his arms behind his back were Blue Dogs. Arkana May 2012 #65

that is the one thing that amuses and saddens me Bodhi BloodWave May 2012 #69

So why didn't he break that grip they had, MadHound May 2012 #70

No other modern US president has faced the sheer Surya Gayatri May 2012 #91

Well, you know, being unemployed and underemployed for two years now is pretty depressing MadHound May 2012 #96

Hearing things from your personal perspective, Surya Gayatri May 2012 #113

And how does he do that, pray tell? Arkana May 2012 #145

congress does not matter if you have a senate that blocked a majority of good. pansypoo53219 May 2012 #76

"Ooo, the Senate is blocking me. . . MadHound May 2012 #77

The ProSense May 2012 #80

Ahh, hyperbole MadHound May 2012 #84

Yeah, ProSense May 2012 #87

Ah yes, that gift to the insurance industry, a mandated monopoly, MadHound May 2012 #89

No ProSense May 2012 #93

Are you in favor of giving the insurance industry a mandated monopoly MadHound May 2012 #99

You didn't ProSense May 2012 #103

Not at the cost of giving the insurance industry a mandated monopoly, MadHound May 2012 #104

Guess who ProSense May 2012 #110

Really? This is what Kucinich had to say about the individual mandate MadHound May 2012 #114

Did he vote for the bill? n/t ProSense May 2012 #126

Did Candidate Obama campaign against the individual mandate? MadHound May 2012 #142

Did Kucinich vote for the bill? ProSense May 2012 #144

Can you illuminate these points with examples? cliffordu May 2012 #90

Can you read through this thread? MadHound May 2012 #92

Ah, yes..... cliffordu May 2012 #95

In other words you aren't going to read through the thread, MadHound May 2012 #97

I've read through this thread nobodyspecial May 2012 #150

Yep. cliffordu May 2012 #154

I just love your talking points cliffordu May 2012 #85

Glad you love them, MadHound May 2012 #88

when every disagreement becomes a "RW talking point" paulk May 2012 #94

People seem to forget this 4th law of robotics May 2012 #138

Sadly, you're making a few assumptions Creideiki May 2012 #147

Yep...it is amazing. We've heard so much about the Tax cuts (for the rich) and how they will... BlueJazz May 2012 #2

Unfortunately That May Be True TheMastersNemesis May 2012 #3

Our media is in the pockets of our big corporations madokie May 2012 #4

And check out the pseudo liberals who jump right on that "Obama is bad.", bandwagon NNN0LHI May 2012 #10

Oh, look nobodyspecial May 2012 #17

+1 Bluerthanblue May 2012 #63

Three years of slavish devotion to Hoover-nomics MannyGoldstein May 2012 #12

Well, I see ProSense May 2012 #19

Three simple questions: MannyGoldstein May 2012 #27

Simply ProSense May 2012 #36

I think you addressed exactly zero of my questions. MannyGoldstein May 2012 #41

So happy to see posters here eager nobodyspecial May 2012 #29

I seriously doubt that posting on DU will have all that big an impact one way or the other. marmar May 2012 #35

It is quite discouraging. Tennessee Gal May 2012 #37

You won't change the minds of those who have blamed Obama since day one. great white snark May 2012 #45

The Far Left and the Far Right both have the same agenda. Ikonoklast May 2012 #55

even if it isn't centered on simple hatred- Bluerthanblue May 2012 #75

Yep, there is a vocal contingent that believes nobodyspecial May 2012 #151

You'd hardly know this was a Democratic site! Surya Gayatri May 2012 #115

600,000 public sector jobs cut. toddwv May 2012 #49

It's been the republican strategy since Obama's first day in office. Has the potential to work, pampango May 2012 #54

yes it does, especially when Dem's join them. Bluerthanblue May 2012 #67

Appears to me to be yet another.. 99Forever May 2012 #71

President Obama: "I've never believed that government's role is to create jobs or prosperity" Better Believe It May 2012 #72

"I believe it’s the...skill and dedication of our workers...that’s made us the wealthiest nation..." ProSense May 2012 #74

And, what's worse, those 'weak job numbers,' even were they coalition_unwilling May 2012 #81

Thanks a lot for posting this, nobody... Surya Gayatri May 2012 #98

Like Obama said: "I've never believed that government's role is to create jobs or prosperity" Better Believe It May 2012 #112

In part, yes, if you put it back in the context... Surya Gayatri May 2012 #117

I take it you are also against massive government public works programs to help the unemployed. Better Believe It May 2012 #127

In context, the statement is even worse. girl gone mad May 2012 #141

Well, I thought so as well nobodyspecial May 2012 #152

Poor, poor powerless little Obama. Apparently only Republican Presidents have any power. Edweird May 2012 #108

Please ProSense May 2012 #111

There's a reason Kucinich got the 'come to Jesus' plane ride and not Lieberman. Edweird May 2012 #116

Yeah ProSense May 2012 #120

So we're back to poor, poor pwerless Obama against big bad Lieberman, so he has to beat up Kucinich Edweird May 2012 #121

Unlike you ProSense May 2012 #122

Obama chooses to use his bully pulpit against the left not the right. Edweird May 2012 #123

Nonsense. Utter nonsensical crapola. AtomicKitten May 2012 #124

LOL Edweird May 2012 #128

Here ProSense May 2012 #129

Except that the individual mandate is the exact opposite of single payer. Edweird May 2012 #134

Is that your rebuttal to Kucinich's statement? n/t ProSense May 2012 #135

More ProSense May 2012 #125

The Left (an 2/3'rds of the nation) supported Single payer and accepted the public option as a Edweird May 2012 #131

More ProSense May 2012 #133

Pressure is the president's job - quit trying to pass the buck. Edweird May 2012 #136

Yes, ProSense May 2012 #137

Yep, he applied pressure to pass the RW individual mandate instead of single payer Edweird May 2012 #139

Wait, ProSense May 2012 #140

That Obama acted as a leader and lead congress to the resolution he desired: the individual mandate. Edweird May 2012 #156

What are you implying? Arkana May 2012 #146