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karynnj

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30. There were many many people responsible for winning 2006 -- and Rahm has no more claim than others
Wed Apr 8, 2015, 05:29 PM
Apr 2015

First of all, the SENATE gained every seat but TN that was remotely likely. No one - even the week before the election thought we would essentially get every single one of the seats we did - and as that took us to 51 - it was important.

Many things were responsible - starting with two very bad things. Katrina and the incredibly poor response by the Bush administration and the civil war in Iraq. Public opinion spun very strongly against the war -- and the shift was stunningly fast. In June 2006, only 13 Senators voted for Kerry/Feingold. By fall, top Republicans, John Warner and Chuck Hagel,returning from Iraq were suddenly not far from that position. By early 2007, more than 50 Senators voted for essentially the same amendment on which REID put his name. (Note Rahm and others who did not want Iraq raised were wrong -- it was a major issue.)

One thing where Dean should get the credit is that one aspect of the misunderstood 50 state plan was that good candidates should be sought and supported - even in places where a win is not very likely. 2006 became a wave election, but that was not obvious until fall 2006. Had there not been good candidates, with enough money to run a decent campaign - we would have lost those opportunities.

In addition to Dean, there were two other people helping people outside the likely races win - John Kerry and Wesley Clark - both especially helping vets. In Kerry's case, he provided much of teh GOTV money that Webb used in the primary. He was the stronger candidate in the general election - though he was not likely to win until Allen imploded. (Kerry also endorsed him in the primary - in spite of Webb having swiftboated him and having refused to shake his hand for 30 years out of anger because Kerry famously said Vietnam was unwinnable.) Tell me if you think Rahm, would have acted that selflessly - and given the results it meant that difference in being in the majority or minority. (Webb very very narrowly won - it is very unlikely his primary opponent would have won.)

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"Congratulations Rahm" Thread! [View all] Badass Liberal Apr 2015 OP
Not a hater, not a particular fan--I don't really know a lot about the guy. His victory (so far) MADem Apr 2015 #1
The guy's a warrior. Badass Liberal Apr 2015 #4
Results Bobbie Jo Apr 2015 #11
A warrior for the wealthy. Ken Burch Apr 2015 #51
This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Apr 2015 #2
Post removed Post removed Apr 2015 #3
While you enjoy your stay! Katashi_itto Apr 2015 #19
Figures they were a Rahm fan, they had the same asshole demeanor. arcane1 Apr 2015 #35
Agree! Katashi_itto Apr 2015 #52
hurrah for the union busting privatizing neocon neoliberal corporate wing of the democratic party! Warren Stupidity Apr 2015 #5
Hear! Hear! Orrex Apr 2015 #6
Go Rahm! We need you to help Hillary turn the US into the Somalia it was meant to Be! Katashi_itto Apr 2015 #20
I sort of remember he did an awesome job in the WH fadedrose Apr 2015 #7
Fuck Stinkin' Fish Rahm davidpdx Apr 2015 #8
Rahm Emanuel - Bad Ass Corporate Conservative Douche tenderfoot Apr 2015 #9
+1 deutsey Apr 2015 #10
According to the NY Times, Rahm won all ethnic and economic categories brooklynite Apr 2015 #12
Did they mention that he had the big money republicons backing him also? rhett o rick Apr 2015 #18
Voters had a choice..Are you saying they were all deluded by advertising? brooklynite Apr 2015 #26
Big money buys elections. That's what I am saying. Advertising is just one method. rhett o rick Apr 2015 #45
I wonder how many wealthy Republicans voted for him. He sure earned their votes, he works sabrina 1 Apr 2015 #47
big money didn't seem to help republicans with those JI7 Apr 2015 #28
Does party affiliation even matter when the top donor to the Dem is a GOP billionaire? think Apr 2015 #32
What's your point, please? nm rhett o rick Apr 2015 #44
Sure it did. I wonder how many rich Repubs voted for him. They don't care about Dem/Repub sabrina 1 Apr 2015 #48
I continue to find that hard to believe...he lost every majority Latino ward, some by 40%! alcibiades_mystery Apr 2015 #21
Read all about it... brooklynite Apr 2015 #27
Your link shows Garcia winning Latinos with 68% of the Latino vote alcibiades_mystery Apr 2015 #36
Thing i noticed is if vote was under 45 he would have won marlakay Apr 2015 #46
Not in your link below he didn't - he lost the Hispanic/Latino category nt karynnj Apr 2015 #31
I guess the NY Times does not consider Hispanics to be an ethnic category. former9thward Apr 2015 #34
Haters stay away. trumad Apr 2015 #13
"Even if there's only 4 of us!" NuclearDem Apr 2015 #14
That would be just great. I eagerly anticipate it. stillwaiting Apr 2015 #33
Already done. Rex Apr 2015 #38
More like weakassconservative. stillwaiting Apr 2015 #43
While eating "graham" crackers, I was ready 4 "anything" FSogol Apr 2015 #15
... tenderfoot Apr 2015 #16
I consider it extremely lazy when they don't even take the time to change their avatar. FSogol Apr 2015 #17
Really really lazy. Or in your face. djean111 Apr 2015 #25
Union Busting sucks. NCTraveler Apr 2015 #22
Bender has a message fer yez, Rahm: hifiguy Apr 2015 #23
I would have voted for a pile of dog shit first. n/t jtuck004 Apr 2015 #24
love the word haters olddots Apr 2015 #29
There were many many people responsible for winning 2006 -- and Rahm has no more claim than others karynnj Apr 2015 #30
LOL! Badass liberal! You so funny! Rex Apr 2015 #37
graham4anything has left the building...again! FSogol Apr 2015 #39
MIRT swinging the mighty hammer! Rex Apr 2015 #40
I guess there are only 7 of you BrotherIvan Apr 2015 #41
"Badass Liberal" got Shown the Door....TROLL KoKo Apr 2015 #49
Rahm and Rauner..... Stellar Apr 2015 #42
He is terrible. Wow, 7 recs, more than I expected. nt Logical Apr 2015 #50
But out of the 7, 2 are in the corner with timeouts and 1 never posts FSogol Apr 2015 #53
If by "his take-no-bull style"... 99Forever Apr 2015 #54
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