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Journeyman

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3. Love it -- people blithely propose we'll get "diversions from Canada, and Washington and Oregon"...
Wed Apr 8, 2015, 10:08 PM
Apr 2015

as though such a possibility were as simple as turning a spigot on.

The California State Water Project -- largest in the nation, and one of the marvels of the world -- was first proposed in 1919. Depending on how you mark it, construction took some 10 to 20 years to complete the first phase. It moves millions of acre feet of water some 700 miles and lifts it -- lifts it -- over 1900 feet. It remains a work in progress, and even today we continue to debate how or even if it should be expanded.

And now people speak of diverting water from a different state, indeed from a neighboring country, and moving it to fill the needs of corporate California agriculture.

Google the "North American Water and Power Alliance" to learn how completely ridiculous this idea has been for some 3/4 of a century. And remember, energy is incredibly more expensive today than it was when these ideas were first broached, and the general public's concern about the impact large scale construction will have on the environment is magnitudes more refined.

We were all taught in school a simple scientific "truism" that water seeks its own level and flows downhill. But the reality is, water flows uphill, towards power and money. However, we're beginning to run short on both, so fulfilling all our fantasies seems an increasingly distant dream.

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And if the land market collapses in California because of the new desert where there was farmland, guillaumeb Apr 2015 #1
AND..what if fracking keeps on poisoning the rest of the water? nt kelliekat44 Apr 2015 #14
This reminds me of a video I saw at San Diego museum of natural history pipoman Apr 2015 #2
Love it -- people blithely propose we'll get "diversions from Canada, and Washington and Oregon"... Journeyman Apr 2015 #3
Anyone proposing that needs to quit living in fantasyland Spider Jerusalem Apr 2015 #6
Washington and Oregon are facing their own water shortages starroute Apr 2015 #12
If our gov does not put a stop to fracking, oldandhappy Apr 2015 #4
the cynic in me wonders TheFarseer Apr 2015 #5
Not even close - agriculture is the main thing - about 85% of all water used in the state hatrack Apr 2015 #10
Hatrack, only because I am actually looking at the data nadinbrzezinski Apr 2015 #16
In addition to what hatrack says above, golf is a significant contributor to some areas income... Journeyman Apr 2015 #13
We're already talking about the aquifers being in danger of collapse. Starry Messenger Apr 2015 #7
Does anyone else see the irony in lack of water perhaps putting underwater mnhtnbb Apr 2015 #8
"the market will correct a water imbalance" Binkie The Clown Apr 2015 #9
If you believe in inifinte growth on a finite planet, you're either insane or an economist hatrack Apr 2015 #11
I'd like to see an accounting of what is grown in each basin XemaSab Apr 2015 #15
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