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MannyGoldstein

(34,589 posts) Wed Apr 8, 2015, 11:34 PM Apr 2015

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Hearing the details on the Iran agreement tonight... makes me ANGRY [View all]

I've been in bed half-dead with some GI-tract plague for the best part of four days, am catching up with the world. Listening to a podcast on the Iran nuclear agreement, I suddenly got mad. Real mad.

I'm mad because there are people who don't want a treaty, who'd prefer to get other people's kids killed instead of making a pretty-reasonable deal. It is a sick thing from calloused souls.

War is Hell.

War is a thing waged only as a very last resort. It is never waged for anything less by people with healthy minds. Not "to show we really mean it" nor to "teach 'em a lesson" nor "to triangulate against the Republicans".

Perhaps it's time to bring back the die-ins to show Republicans and Third-Way swine that Americans don't want no war, no more. Something needs to be done.

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Hearing the details on the Iran agreement tonight... makes me ANGRY [View all] MannyGoldstein Apr 2015 OP

change your title to say Iran Vattel Apr 2015 #1

Thanks! MannyGoldstein Apr 2015 #3

Very confusing post. I hadn't heard we are having talks with Iraq too yeoman6987 Apr 2015 #2

I @#$&ed up - it 's Iran MannyGoldstein Apr 2015 #4

Oh thanks. It actually could have been Iraq too yeoman6987 Apr 2015 #6

One of the few time I agree with you Manny still_one Apr 2015 #5

Welcome to the Dark Side MannyGoldstein Apr 2015 #7

lol still_one Apr 2015 #9

Didn't like the Third-Way swine comment, KMOD Apr 2015 #8

So what do you have to say about those so-called Democrats that are arm in arm rhett o rick Apr 2015 #11

I'm very disturbed by them. KMOD Apr 2015 #13

If Democrats Don't Stand With The President Yallow Apr 2015 #19

I do understand your concern, KMOD Apr 2015 #22

Good morning, KMOD In_The_Wind Apr 2015 #29

Good Morning, Wind. KMOD Apr 2015 #33

I suspect a O' in your name.. Smithryee Apr 2015 #39

you do? KMOD Apr 2015 #40

KMOD Smithryee Apr 2015 #41

Let me see if I have your priorities straight. You say you are very disturbed by rhett o rick Apr 2015 #30

I'm disturbed by the Democrats going against the President KMOD Apr 2015 #34

We have have plenty of kacekwl Apr 2015 #48

Here's how I'll fight KMOD Apr 2015 #51

Schumer's office? Have you ever called his office before? 2banon Apr 2015 #65

I've called his Albany office in the past, KMOD Apr 2015 #66

Albany? itcfish Apr 2015 #79

I agree. 99Forever Apr 2015 #28

I knew that was coming. KMOD Apr 2015 #35

Who is joking? 99Forever Apr 2015 #37

I was hoping we were making some progress KMOD Apr 2015 #38

Huh. And I loved it. FiveGoodMen Apr 2015 #53

Our party is infested with the Third Way Think Tank's (investment bankers) bought and paid for sabrina 1 Apr 2015 #54

and thankfully, Schumer is taking a lot of heat for it. KMOD Apr 2015 #57

Doesn't matter to them what the people think. Try contacting his office. He doesn't even sabrina 1 Apr 2015 #61

I'll see if I can get Senator Gillibrand KMOD Apr 2015 #67

President Obama has kacekwl Apr 2015 #71

"Something needs to be done" Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2015 #10

But the Billionaires They Work For Have Their Backs Yallow Apr 2015 #21

Obama stopped kissing up to Wall Street when they refused to give him credit for saving their asses. Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2015 #27

Do you recognize the name Smedley Butler? Stonepounder Apr 2015 #12

Thanks! BeanMusical Apr 2015 #20

EVERYBODY should recognize that name. sammythecat Apr 2015 #42

Take the pledge, everybody Jack Rabbit Apr 2015 #14

Out of curiosity... what will "die-ins" achieve? Scootaloo Apr 2015 #15

One way to remind them that some of us still give a shit. AtheistCrusader Apr 2015 #16

But they don't care that we give a shit. if they did, they would give a shit, too. Scootaloo Apr 2015 #24

Absolute passive resistance libodem Apr 2015 #45

And let's notice that the Vietnam war kept going. Scootaloo Apr 2015 #75

Back in the days when Reagan was refusing to take any action against AIDS, die-ins were a potent Bluenorthwest Apr 2015 #58

Probably exactly long as they did anyway, I'm sorry to say Scootaloo Apr 2015 #77

Your choice. Die-in and be recognized or be slaughtered in a war and brought back in a hidden casket erronis Apr 2015 #72

That's a false dilemma, erronis Scootaloo Apr 2015 #76

What if they gave a war, and nobody came? raging moderate Apr 2015 #17

Aw heck why worry about kids of military age getting killed when you can spread it around. gordianot Apr 2015 #18

Netanyahu Lickspittles - KEEP YOUR GODDAMN WAR libpride_15 Apr 2015 #23

And people thinking that starting up the draft will do anything but give the warmongers fresh djean111 Apr 2015 #25

War is an admission of Failure madokie Apr 2015 #26

It pisses me off that Schumer has gone over to the war monger side... world wide wally Apr 2015 #31

he's always been a warmonger--he was on Team Bush/Cheney/Lieberman for Iraq nt geek tragedy Apr 2015 #32

Very kacekwl Apr 2015 #49

To "bring back" anything is not acknowledging how much the world has changed. randome Apr 2015 #36

Feel better, Manny libodem Apr 2015 #43

It pisses me off to no end Cosmocat Apr 2015 #44

"Money trumps peace" KansDem Apr 2015 #46

Manny is correct that . . FairWinds Apr 2015 #47

I'm with ya, Manny! Enthusiast Apr 2015 #50

They have wanted a war with Iran for many years now. Enthusiast Apr 2015 #52

Sounds like someone wendylaroux Apr 2015 #55

On a bright side to Iran about to make the US look foolish, NM_Birder Apr 2015 #56

Retried CIA analyst Paul Pillar blows up the "Iran as Marauder" myth . . FairWinds Apr 2015 #60

Iran is on the news this morning, NM_Birder Apr 2015 #78

It's not a treaty madville Apr 2015 #59

Sorry, that is not correct either . . FairWinds Apr 2015 #62

It can be both madville Apr 2015 #63

I agree Manny... For Freddie Apr 2015 #64

Why does turning down this deal mean "war"? Why not just get a better deal? 7962 Apr 2015 #68

It's not like there isn't a precedent for attacking an "obvious power facility" Art_from_Ark Apr 2015 #73

The Iranians refused all offers from other countries to build an actual power facility 7962 Apr 2015 #74

Thank you for this post Mira Apr 2015 #69

War is the ultimate failure. That the chickenhawks look at it as a first option shows their Ed Suspicious Apr 2015 #70

I'm wondering how many of those war mongering republicans would enlist B Calm Apr 2015 #80